sage Posted June 30 Posted June 30 The KKR star said, “So Virat is exceptional, as in the way he can he can cheer up everyone. So the main thing was whenever I spoke to him his answers were very motivational and in that thing and when I spoke to Rohit Sharma, it was very tactical. So it was two different parts.” Ashwin, who was the host, also agreed with Varun’s explanation and pointed out that Rohit is more tactical. “So one is inspirational, the other one more tactical, which I kind of resonate. Because Virat goes and does things. He is there in your eye line, the way he trains, the way he practices, what he does. But Rohit does understand a lot more tactics in terms of what he does. Everything is tactical in terms of field placement, this batsman, this shot and all that.” https://www.msn.com/en-in/sports/cricket/rohit-sharma-understands-tactics-more-than-virat-kohli-r-ashwin-varun-chakaravarthy-drop-verdict-on-captaincy-debate/ar-AA1HGkoz
Vickydev Posted July 1 Posted July 1 Yes we saw that during the Sydney test when he gave that interview. Went on to play a grand total of 0 tests after that... Very tactically astute raki05 and saransh 2
Gollum Posted July 1 Posted July 1 Successful white ball captains tend to be better in tactics. Dhoni was a supreme tactician, but his tricks never helped in the longer format. Test captains are deeper strategists. Kohli was a poor white ball captain, Rohit was a poor test captain. straighttalk 1
Suhaan Posted July 1 Posted July 1 1 minute ago, Gollum said: Successful white ball captains tend to be better in tactics. Dhoni was a supreme tactician, but his tricks never helped in the longer format. Test captains are deeper strategists. Kohli was a poor white ball captain, Rohit was a poor test captain. Naa ,there is also personal grudge against Kohli , understandable though Kohli abused him blatantly in a useless IPL game It didn't go down well with him, Ashwin hasn't forgotten it Badada Vada was the most pathetic leader irrespective of the format,he should be at last in the captaincy list rollingstoned 1
Suhaan Posted July 1 Posted July 1 1 hour ago, Vickydev said: Yes we saw that during the Sydney test when he gave that interview. Went on to play a grand total of 0 tests after that... Very tactically astute Do bachhe ke baap ko ,do test bh na khelne diya gaya uske baad Vickydev and express bowling 2
Gollum Posted July 1 Posted July 1 Similar to chess when tactics help you more in short time controls. One common theme among these rapid, blitz, bullet specialists is they have lesser tactical oversights. But in classical, need deeper positional understanding, game is more strategic. When a top GM sacrifices some piece in the opening,there is some long term strategic advantage. With more time at hand, players can calculate deeper, make long term plans. rollingstoned 1
Gollum Posted July 1 Posted July 1 2 minutes ago, Suhaan said: Naa ,there is also personal grudge against Kohli , understandable though Kohli abused him blatantly in a useless IPL game It didn't go down well with him, Ashwin hasn't forgotten it Badada Vada was the most pathetic leader irrespective of the format,he should be at last in the captaincy list 5 IPL titles, 2 ICC trophies. Rohit is a good white ball captain. Like Dhoni. BacktoCricaddict 1
Gollum Posted July 1 Posted July 1 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Suhaan said: Naa ,there is also personal grudge against Kohli , understandable though Kohli abused him blatantly in a useless IPL game It didn't go down well with him, Ashwin hasn't forgotten it Badada Vada was the most pathetic leader irrespective of the format,he should be at last in the captaincy list Don't see any grudge in those comments. Or even criticism, leaders come in various types/forms. He said Kohli is more inspirational who leads by example. While Rohit is more tactical. Kapil, Imran Khan, Ponting were inspirational leaders. In fact when Imran was the captain, it was Miandad who would make most plans like field setting, bowler rotation etc, he was the tactician in that team...Imran was someone who held authority and players looked up to, he could enforce discipline, set high goals and standards, motivate youngsters (92 Inzi). Same applies to military. Rommel (Desert Fox) was a great tactician. Patton was an inspirational leader who boosted morale of his troops. Ultimately both were legends in their own way. Edited July 1 by Gollum
Suhaan Posted July 1 Posted July 1 9 minutes ago, Gollum said: 5 IPL titles, 2 ICC trophies. Rohit is a good white ball captain. Like Dhoni. He's a joke,that one can see T20 WC was purely Bumrah masterclass with decent clutch support from Pandua in the end overs(offcourse that SKY catch)
New guy Posted July 1 Posted July 1 9 minutes ago, Suhaan said: He's a joke,that one can see T20 WC was purely Bumrah masterclass with decent clutch support from Pandua in the end overs(offcourse that SKY catch) Weird how such masterclasses didn't happen under Kohli despite so many chances. Some captains know how to win trophies and some don't. sage and sorak 2
Suhaan Posted July 1 Posted July 1 5 minutes ago, New guy said: Weird how such masterclasses didn't happen under Kohli despite so many chances. Some captains know how to win trophies and some don't. Did I say Kohli was better than him? Kohli was equally or more worse ,he chose Chahal over in form Shami in 2019,went on to chase in CT2017,but Rohit too wasn't very bright he too went with washedout Bhuvi in t20WC 22,ta ctical mistakes while defending in CWC 23 final I will credit only Bumrah and Pandya, Arshdeep for their clutch bowling defending a below par score vs a strong T20 lineup in the final
Gollum Posted July 1 Posted July 1 1 hour ago, New guy said: Weird how such masterclasses didn't happen under Kohli despite so many chances. Some captains know how to win trophies and some don't. Rohit deserves credit for building the MI side after their poor seasons initially. He made their template, groomed many youngsters who went on to do very well for India. Also shifted Indian white ball batting mindset from its conservative self. But at the same time have to agree that he had no vision when it came to developing Indian pace attack. Kohli developed a bowling unit thay could take 20 wickets in any condition. Wish Rohit had succeeded Dhoni as white ball captain, and Kohli stayed on as test captain for some more time. India would have had at least one more ICC white ball trophy, and our test pace stocks wouldn't have become so dire today. rollingstoned 1
Gollum Posted July 1 Posted July 1 1 hour ago, Suhaan said: Did I say Kohli was better than him? Kohli was equally or more worse ,he chose Chahal over in form Shami in 2019,went on to chase in CT2017,but Rohit too wasn't very bright he too went with washedout Bhuvi in t20WC 22,ta ctical mistakes while defending in CWC 23 final I will credit only Bumrah and Pandya, Arshdeep for their clutch bowling defending a below par score vs a strong T20 lineup in the final Bhai, itna critically analyze karoge toh you'll come to a conclusion that no Indian captain was good.
Lord Posted July 1 Posted July 1 Saw that in the WC final where he didn't put slips to spinners defending 240 and used Siraj as 5th bowler
vvvslaxman Posted July 1 Posted July 1 Not the first time Ashwin's words are taken out of context. Won't be the last time.
Nikhil_cric Posted July 2 Posted July 2 He wasn't always great but in terms of white ball tactics he was far superior to Kohli and to be honest that's not a very high bar. The high attacking intent in the powerplay only began when Rohit fully took charge . And ever since , we have won 2 out of 3 white ball trophies. iluv80085 1
raki05 Posted July 2 Posted July 2 Ashwin konkoi kaam bacha nahi hai…. Sirf bakchodi kar raha hai.. Lord and Gollum 2
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