In history - has India’s opposition ever been such sell outs and so India hating ?

[rangeelaraja]

It can be argued that this question is a non starter because much of Indias political history since independence has been dominated by one party ( family owned and run ) 

 

But we did have emergency in 1975 and what IG did to opposing voices is now part of our history.

 

I am not an expert on Indias political history -

 

1) Has there ever been a time where Indias opposition has tried to collude with external state and non state actors to try and cause the ruling govt to fall ? 
 

2) Has there ever been a time where fake attempts have been made to tarnish the independence of all of Indias apex institutions - be it ED, Supreme Court, election commission, CAG ?   There has not even been a shred of hard credible evidence provided for any of the rubbish allegations. 
 

3) Has there ever been a time Pak and the opposition in India has consistently spoken the same language ?

 

 

I am not aware. Indias opposition has sunk so low that sometimes I wish India were an autocracy - the dynast political parties - illiterate filth like the Yadavs of Bihar and UP, a total lying jackass like Pappu ( RG ) are such big liabilities to India, 

 

This is not 0.5 front. This is 1.5 front. They are certainly a bigger threat to national security than Pak. 

Edited August 21, 2025 by rangeelaraja

[MechEng]

Look no further than the alliance between Alexander and King Ambhi in battle against Porus.

[Stan AF]

RSS and British

[Chakdephatte]

BJP will do the same thing when in opposition. All our politicians are power hungry. Earlier I had hopes from Gadkari and CBN etc, but no longer. There is no moral integrity among our politicians. 

[kepler37b]

@rangeelaraja..The nationalists are very very few in number in this country. Average hindu has no concept of civilization. I appreciate mujeet's in this aspect.

 

Everybody is looking for their own interest or the interest of community. 

 

Opposition is no exception. 

[crictime]

Bofors scam. The lowest one Indian  could have gine in anti-India agenda. Nothing less than a traitor.

[singhvivek141]

1 hour ago, Chakdephatte said:

BJP will do the same thing when in opposition. All our politicians are power hungry. Earlier I had hopes from Gadkari and CBN etc, but no longer. There is no moral integrity among our politicians. 

BJP defended Manmohan when he was called some "widow women" by Pakistan. If I remember all senior BJP leaders even told that whatever differences we have with Congress, we can't allow any foreign nation to insult our PM.
Even now, the RaGa section of Congress is the only one which insulted and backstabbed India during OpSindoor and the events post that. Many leaders of Congress did support NDA as a unit.

[Lone Wolf]

2 hours ago, MechEng said:

Look no further than the alliance between Alexander and King Ambhi in battle against Porus.

Ambhi was vassal to Darius as well... His alignment with Alexander was perfectly natural.  Why would he risk destruction of his kingdom?

[Lone Wolf]

Just now, singhvivek141 said:

BJP defended Manmohan when he was called some "widow women" by Pakistan. If I remember all senior BJP leaders even told that whatever differences we have with Congress, we can't allow any foreign nation to insult our PM.
Even now, the RaGa section of Congress is the only one which insulted and backstabbed India during OpSindoor and the events post that. Many leaders of Congress did support NDA as a unit.

US deep state has completely infiltrated Indian institutions in last 20 years from top to bottom.

There is no party you can completely trust tbh.

[singhvivek141]

4 hours ago, rangeelaraja said:

It can be argued that this question is a non starter because much of Indias political history since independence has been dominated by one party ( family owned and run ) 

 

But we did have emergency in 1975 and what IG did to opposing voices is now part of our history.

 

I am not an expert on Indias political history -

 

1) Has there ever been a time where Indias opposition has tried to collude with external state and non state actors to try and cause the ruling govt to fall ? 
 

2) Has there ever been a time where fake attempts have been made to tarnish the independence of all of Indias apex institutions - be it ED, Supreme Court, election commission, CAG ?   There has not even been a shred of hard credible evidence provided for any of the rubbish allegations. 
 

3) Has there ever been a time Pak and the opposition in India has consistently spoken the same language ?

 

 

I am not aware. Indias opposition has sunk so low that sometimes I wish India were an autocracy - the dynast political parties - illiterate filth like the Yadavs of Bihar and UP, a total lying jackass like Pappu ( RG ) are such big liabilities to India, 

 

This is not 0.5 front. This is 1.5 front. They are certainly a bigger threat to national security than Pak. 

Congress is divided into 2 sections
RaGa section has gotten loose and is now behaving as a group of deranged individuals. While likes of Surjewala, Tharoor, Manish Tewary etc supported govt. during their operation vs Pakistan.
Sadly, someone like Owaisi is making more sense these days than Pappu sena....

[singhvivek141]

1 minute ago, Lone Wolf said:

US deep state has completely infiltrated Indian institutions in last 20 years from top to bottom.

There is no party you can completely trust tbh.

Yeah, there are loose cannons everywhere.
But BJP drawing strength from RSS is something which deep state dislike. Hence, their infiltration is BJP is lower.
Congress, being more "liberal", makes them much more easier to infiltrate, along with the Commies.

[singhvivek141]

2 hours ago, kepler37b said:

@rangeelaraja..The nationalists are very very few in number in this country. Average hindu has no concept of civilization. I appreciate mujeet's in this aspect.

 

Everybody is looking for their own interest or the interest of community. 

 

Opposition is no exception. 

Coz we're divided.
Mujeets are considered as one bloc...we're considered into different sects and each sect hate each other.

[Lone Wolf]

20 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said:

Congress, being more "liberal", makes them much more easier to infiltrate,

In opposition yes... In power they seem difficult to penetrate.

But we don't know how much damage has been done in last 10-15 years.

 

BJP barring Modi and Shah cannot be trusted as well... And fortunately these two are running the country.

 

The country needs a systematic purge to set things alright again.

 

Yesterday all the talks of betrayal to top brass was hinted towards this.

 

 

Edited August 21, 2025 by Lone Wolf

[mishra]

@Lone Wolf Right Now, US wants something from GoI. It can project everyone as traitor anti national and Western media will run with it.

 

My advise. This guy is traitor or that guy is traitor i.e if someone claims  whether its Modi or RaGa or Kejri or Adani or Ambani is traitor or have back dealing with so and so coming from some high repute person, Unless indian Courts do not make a judgement, Simply ignore those allegations as baseless

[kepler37b]

3 hours ago, singhvivek141 said:

Coz we're divided.
Mujeets are considered as one bloc...we're considered into different sects and each sect hate each other.

Yeah. That is the issue. 

 

From what I have experienced, if we are liberal and open to all, we will be taken advantage of.

 

[coffee_rules]

9 hours ago, Stan AF said:

RSS and British

But India was only born after 1947 .. No?

 

RSS was about sanghthan to fight against seditious Muslim  League and Christian Missionary swarming the British India at that time. 

 

 

[coffee_rules]

9 hours ago, Chakdephatte said:

BJP will do the same thing when in opposition. All our politicians are power hungry. Earlier I had hopes from Gadkari and CBN etc, but no longer. There is no moral integrity among our politicians. 

At least BJP was not leading the 0.5 front working with the 2.0 anti-India forces. Modi didn't go to US/UK and ask them to save India's democracy, didn't go to Pakistan and ask them to take MMS out., Didn't sign a MOU with China. What you talking?

Edited August 21, 2025 by coffee_rules

[coffee_rules]

Gandhi and Bhagat Singh . 

[Chakdephatte]

2 hours ago, coffee_rules said:

At least BJP was not leading the 0.5 front working with the 2.0 anti-India forces. Modi didn't go to US/UK and ask them to save India's democracy, didn't go to Pakistan and ask them to take MMS out., Didn't sign a MOU with China. What you talking?

Modi wasn't a thing back then 

[coffee_rules]

10 minutes ago, Chakdephatte said:

Modi wasn't a thing back then 

List all actions of BJP when in opposition that you think they were doing the same anti-India activities that Congress is doing now.  You said they would do the same if they were in opposition