fineleg Posted December 22, 2013 Posted December 22, 2013 This is what Ashwin did. Holding runs at one end job - 36-5-83-0 (econ rate 2.3) Is that reasonable? Would Ojha have been as miserly against maniac hitting batsmen like ABDV and Duminy, and taken wickets? Why cant we bring Ojha for Durban? Or does Durban have zero assistance for spinners?
sandeep Posted December 22, 2013 Posted December 22, 2013 Holding is not enough from your #1 spinner on a 5th day wicket with a big target generating pressure. He has to strike. Ashwin had a bad game. Let's hope he learns and gets better. and he bowled ZERO balls to 'maniac hitting batsman' Duminy.
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NareshK Posted December 22, 2013 Posted December 22, 2013 That's not a bad effort at all but he is one of our main bowlers and if he goes wicketless, we will struggle to get sides out often. Either he needs to step up drastically or have to find other options.
sandeep Posted December 22, 2013 Posted December 22, 2013 u dont win tests by "Holding" ... you will invariably be holding ghanta in the end as we saw today.. :haha:
wanted_desi Posted December 22, 2013 Posted December 22, 2013 Holding End is overrated I would have taken someone 7-0-83-4 :haha:
vvvslaxman Posted December 22, 2013 Posted December 22, 2013 If you are a 5th bowler this strategy won't hurt team much. But when you are 4th bowler then you are going to hurt team badly.
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coffee_rules Posted December 22, 2013 Posted December 22, 2013 Until the 2004 Aus series, Kumble was confined to hold one end, in test cricket away from the sub-cont.
ThePhenomenal1 Posted December 22, 2013 Posted December 22, 2013 Jadeja can hold one end up AND take wickets because he's simply better. He was the number 1 ODI bowler and highest wicket taker for a reason. Yadav takes wickets too, which is better than holding one end up. Give me 4 bowlers to take 10 wickets in an innings, thats all we need. No need for ashwin
vvvslaxman Posted December 22, 2013 Posted December 22, 2013 If you can't take wickets.. create pressure, dry up runs, atleast look threatening and make the batsman even more circumspect and bowlers at other end will get wickets. Ashwin did none of it. To be honest even Suresh Raina would have been more useful. This gentle floating deliveries will struggle to dismsis tstosbe in South Africa.
Austin 3:!6 Posted December 22, 2013 Posted December 22, 2013 Holding is not his job...his job is to Marshall i.e to take wickets
mancalledsting Posted December 22, 2013 Posted December 22, 2013 some people on this forum really have unrealistic expectations.
punjabi_khota Posted December 22, 2013 Posted December 22, 2013 Finey please look at India's last game (or even SL's ) in Durban before asking irritating questions.
Silva Posted December 22, 2013 Posted December 22, 2013 This is what Ashwin did. Holding runs at one end job - 36-5-83-0 (econ rate 2.3) Is that reasonable? Would Ojha have been as miserly against maniac hitting batsmen like ABDV and Duminy, and taken wickets? Why cant we bring Ojha for Durban? Or does Durban have zero assistance for spinners? Swann herath and harbhajan singh have played key roles in winning test matches in durban for their teams, I think the former two took 10 wickets in their matches. So yes Ashwin has to take wickets their if India is expecting to win.
veer Posted December 22, 2013 Posted December 22, 2013 Finey please look at India's last game (or even SL's ) in Durban before asking irritating questions. +1
singhprakash72 Posted December 22, 2013 Posted December 22, 2013 Fact of matter is India needs 5 bowlers not 4 if they entertain any thoughts of dismissing top side like SA batting, yes this bowling can make merry with Pak,WI,NZ,BNG but not with top sides even on 5th day pitch with 90 overs to get 8 wickets .
Texan Posted December 23, 2013 Posted December 23, 2013 Michael Holding would not have been proud of this job
rkt.india Posted December 23, 2013 Posted December 23, 2013 Fact of matter is India needs 5 bowlers not 4 if they entertain any thoughts of dismissing top side like SA batting' date=' yes this bowling can make merry with Pak,WI,NZ,BNG but not with top sides even on 5th day pitch with 90 overs to get 8 wickets .[/quote'] No. If your four bowlers doing the job I.e. Taking wickets, you do not need a 5th bowler.
Trichromatic Posted December 23, 2013 Posted December 23, 2013 This is what Ashwin did. Holding runs at one end job - 36-5-83-0 (econ rate 2.3) Is that reasonable? Would Ojha have been as miserly against maniac hitting batsmen like ABDV and Duminy, and taken wickets? Why cant we bring Ojha for Durban? Or does Durban have zero assistance for spinners? As a posted earlier, this was only 8th instance when our spinners didn't take any wickets and not a surprise that we haven't won any of those. Ashwin is invloved in two of those matches. One at Sydney which we lost and this one. This is first time that our spinners bowled twice in a match and still couldn't pick a wicket.
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