Ultimatum to Rohit Sharma

[NameGoesHere]

It's a 'Kal'timatum. ie can always be reissued tomorrow.

[Deleted_User_1]

7 hours ago, NameGoesHere said:

It's a 'Kal'timatum. ie can always be reissued tomorrow.

Bingo!

[Real McCoy]

Four years of ultimatums hes still in the side. Such is the talent

[maniac]

2 hours ago, Real McCoy said:

Four years of ultimatums hes still in the side. Such is the talent

Please read the context. probably the most mismanaged player ever. I mean this is a guy who is one of the greatest LOI batsman ever. Shattered the records in 2/3 formats but doesn't even get an extended run of 5-6 matches. 2 games and then dropped but then has to break the glass ceiling in other formats to get another shot, then rinse and repeat.

 

Look I understand there is a lot of young talent waiting in the wings but this man has earned to get an extended run of 6-7  tests before being dropped. Can you imagine what the equivalent of the 264 or the fastest T20 100 would look like in a test context

 

Yes I am sick of all this drama too. Give him 6-7 tests and then call on his fate.

Edited September 30, 2019 by maniac

[Real McCoy]

13 hours ago, maniac said:

Please read the context. probably the most mismanaged player ever. I mean this is a guy who is one of the greatest LOI batsman ever. Shattered the records in 2/3 formats but doesn't even get an extended run of 5-6 matches. 2 games and then dropped but then has to break the glass ceiling in other formats to get another shot, then rinse and repeat.

 

Look I understand there is a lot of young talent waiting in the wings but this man has earned to get an extended run of 6-7  tests before being dropped. Can you imagine what the equivalent of the 264 or the fastest T20 100 would look like in a test context

 

Yes I am sick of all this drama too. Give him 6-7 tests and then call on his fate.

He has been getting shots from 2013 to 2015. He has been found to be wanting technically and mentally. He is not test material. You are saying he didn't get his due even though he was married into an influential family. Get out of here. He is getting more unnecessary chances here because of that. His ODI records don't make him a guarantee for tests. His T20 records are overrated. So don't get that in here and get yourself pwned. I have to call in @zen to school you on his T20 record

[Ankit_sharma03]

 

 

 

 

[maniac]

9 hours ago, Real McCoy said:

He has been getting shots from 2013 to 2015. He has been found to be wanting technically and mentally. He is not test material. You are saying he didn't get his due even though he was married into an influential family. Get out of here. He is getting more unnecessary chances here because of that. His ODI records don't make him a guarantee for tests. His T20 records are overrated. So don't get that in here and get yourself pwned. I have to call in @zen to school you on his T20 record

Sure. Let's filter out all the IPL trophy and Champion's league wins in some statsguru filters for Rohit as a captain+player, filter out all the 4 T20I 100's (an unmatched record) + 2 other occasions were he came close+ The fastest T20 100 + Man of the match in a must win qualifier in WT20 2007 that we won + match winning cameo in the WT20 final + that T20 knock in 2010 against rampaging Johnson and co on a bouncy surface that is still talked about as one of the greatest T20 knocks of all time+ all the valuable advice he brought in as a the brains trust of the team over the years for example like sending DK low down the order in Nidihass etc+ giving India all these young talented folk for the next gen like Bumrah/Pandya bros/Chahal etc+ helped resurgence of Malinga+Mitchell Johnson etc etc. Let's filter all that out

Edited October 1, 2019 by maniac

[Moochad]

Has rohit ever opened in Ranji trophy?

[maniac]

21 minutes ago, Moochad said:

Has rohit ever opened in Ranji trophy?

Neither in LIST A  but see how that turned out

[Moochad]

26 minutes ago, maniac said:

Neither in LIST A  but see how that turned out

Thanks I was just curious.

 

In your honest opinion do you think he will be better suited for opening than the middle order?

[vijaydude]

55 minutes ago, Moochad said:

Has rohit ever opened in Ranji trophy?

As far as I am aware, no he hasn't. This team management is an utterly ridiculous joke.

[Ankit_sharma03]

Suppose he fails against Sa which has been his nemesis and makes runs against Bang who doesnt have a good bowling attack and has been playing **** off lately.......then what ???

Edited October 1, 2019 by Ankit_sharma03

[maniac]

Just now, Moochad said:

Thanks I was just curious.

 

In your honest opinion do you think he will be better suited for opening than the middle order?

I think he will surprise us as an opener. He has been opening in 2 formats for 6+ years now and has done well in some tough conditions even in LOI's. If you remember he kind of struggled at No.4 which was his regular position a couple of years back even in IPL once he started opening in internationals.

 

I think in middle order he bats at 6, so most times he is in situations where has to accelerate or build from a collapse. It can be very difficult for a guy with so many expectations and someone who is trying to establish himself. 

 

There is a reason why his 6's per test average is so high because he has been in those kind of situations already in the games he played.

 

I think we are going to see him take to opening like fish in water because he is a professional opener now. If you remember Sehwag too didn't have the same impact in the middle once he started opening and then was pushed back down to the middle order later on.

[maniac]

1 minute ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Suppose he fails against Sa which has been his nemesis and makes runs against Bang who doesnt have a good bowling attack and has been playing **** off lately.......then what ???

It's all about confidence. What if he scores a 500 against Bangladesh, that will take him into the next level.

[Moochad]

5 minutes ago, maniac said:

I think he will surprise us as an opener. He has been opening in 2 formats for 6+ years now and has done well in some tough conditions even in LOI's. If you remember he kind of struggled at No.4 which was his regular position a couple of years back even in IPL once he started opening in internationals.

In my opinion he could suceed in Asian conditions as an opener. I don't have faith in his ability against the moving ball overseas.

[maniac]

1 minute ago, Moochad said:

In my opinion he could suceed in Asian conditions as an opener. I don't have faith in his ability against the moving ball overseas.

I don’t think most openers do well in tough conditions these days. David Warner is a walking wicket too in tests in England and India by still he has that xfactor.

 

Cook was that last ATG old school test opener. 

[Ankit_sharma03]

10 minutes ago, maniac said:

It's all about confidence. What if he scores a 500 against Bangladesh, that will take him into the next level.

Still bang is a shitty bowling attack, didnt he pile on tons of runs against WI at home and then struggled in SA 

And again made runs against SL at home and struggled in SA

 

Didnt we do the same mistake with dhawan and took him on lanka bashing to ENG n SA.....end result he struggled 

[Ankit_sharma03]

 

Kohli - It was communicated to him long back that they are looking to make him opener but we didnt see any right opp

yea right 

last series was WI where dukes were used

Before that it was Aus series

 

So they waited to make him open in Indian conditions 

 

[wanted_desi]

I will tune in to watch Rohit bat. 

[Real McCoy]

12 hours ago, maniac said:

Sure. Let's filter out all the IPL trophy and Champion's league wins in some statsguru filters for Rohit as a captain+player, filter out all the 4 T20I 100's (an unmatched record) + 2 other occasions were he came close+ The fastest T20 100 + Man of the match in a must win qualifier in WT20 2007 that we won + match winning cameo in the WT20 final + that T20 knock in 2010 against rampaging Johnson and co on a bouncy surface that is still talked about as one of the greatest T20 knocks of all time+ all the valuable advice he brought in as a the brains trust of the team over the years for example like sending DK low down the order in Nidihass etc+ giving India all these young talented folk for the next gen like Bumrah/Pandya bros/Chahal etc+ helped resurgence of Malinga+Mitchell Johnson etc etc. Let's filter all that out

Fine. Even if I accept he is a T20 rockstar, he still sucks in tests. I remember at Galle in 2015, he missed a straight ball from Herath and got bowled. If he had covered the line, he would have been not out. We were chasing a small target and him stitching a partnership with the other batsmen could have helped us cross the line. He can't do the simple things in test cricket. Yet you expect great things from him that too as an opener wow. Did you watch him against Philander recently 0(2)

After 2015, he should have never been picked again. He was given numerous unwarranted chances because of him being married into cricket agent royalty and his friendship with Kohli. Kohli even moved to one drop to facilitate him in the middle order. In Adelaide last year, he hit a six of Lyon that narrowly missed the fielder and hit straight to him again and got out. He played high risk shots in the first day in a test that too when India was in a precarious position (again) with Pujara at the other end who saved us at the end by scoring a century. He is not fit technically, mentally and going by his increasing tire size, physically as well