maniac Posted March 30, 2016 Author Share Posted March 30, 2016 1 minute ago, YCCC said: I wouldn't say England have better bowling than India. Ashwin and Jadeja are better than Moeen and Rashid. Stokes, Willey and Jordan are not better than Bumrah and Nehra. India don't have a Plunkett so can't compare. Aside from Kohli's heroics, the bowling is the main reason India have got this far Ashwin is definitely world class and Nehra is more accomplished then the England new ball bowlers but England have no real weak links in the bowling department and a lot more depth. As a bowling unit England are marginally ahead even though we are definitely tied for the 2nd best along with the kiwis in this tournament. diehardpacer 1 Link to comment
Yoda-esque Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 Maybe its just a feeling but I think England have exhausted their batting mojo for the tournament... They have definitely peaked while we still have a ways to go,there are two matches for us to do that.Lets see.. Link to comment
The Realist Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 1 hour ago, Yoda-esque said: Maybe its just a feeling but I think England have exhausted their batting mojo for the tournament... They have definitely peaked while we still have a ways to go,there are two matches for us to do that.Lets see.. On the contrary Eng are peaking at the right time. Lost the first game but have gradually got better as the tournament has progressed. In contrast Ind have stuttered and stumbled throughout the tournament with the batting Kohli apart looking desperate. The averages and strike rates are horrible. Another failure by the tried and tested failures tomorrow and this team will have displayed the worst tournament batting by a Ind team in living memory. diehardpacer and adi B 2 Link to comment
Laaloo Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 3 minutes ago, The Realist said: On the contrary Eng are peaking at the right time. Lost the first game but have gradually got better as the tournament has progressed. In contrast Ind have stuttered and stumbled throughout the tournament with the batting Kohli apart looking desperate. The averages and strike rates are horrible. Another failure by the tried and tested failures tomorrow and this team will have displayed the worst tournament batting by a Ind team in living memory. True. Without Kohli we'd be winless and out of the tourney. diehardpacer 1 Link to comment
Nova Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 1 hour ago, Yoda-esque said: They have definitely peaked while we still have a ways to go,there are two matches for us to do that.Lets see.. True, but it could also go the other way for us. Top 3 could continue flopping and then Kohli could get out early too. Ohhh disaster. diehardpacer 1 Link to comment
YCCC Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 Anti-jinx. England are definitely not winning this tournament. We've peaked today and it's all downhill from here. Our gun batting line up will be bamboozled by Ashwin or the Windies will bash us all over Kolkata Link to comment
vijay50 Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 2 hours ago, The Realist said: On the contrary Eng are peaking at the right time. Lost the first game but have gradually got better as the tournament has progressed. In contrast Ind have stuttered and stumbled throughout the tournament with the batting Kohli apart looking desperate. The averages and strike rates are horrible. Another failure by the tried and tested failures tomorrow and this team will have displayed the worst tournament batting by a Ind team in living memory. Keeping themselves fit for IPL. diehardpacer 1 Link to comment
vijay50 Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 For sure England or WI winning the cup. Even the Nehraji cannot stop them from winning the cup. diehardpacer, adi B and tweaker 3 Link to comment
WC2011INDIA Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 I was damn confident we would win world t20 in 2014, but sanga pooped on that.... May the best team win the tournament. vijay50 1 Link to comment
Adi_91 Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 3 minutes ago, WC2011INDIA said: I was damn confident we would win world t20 in 2014, but sanga pooped on that.... May the best team win the tournament. Not always the best team has won this tournament. The team that holds its nerve does. Its a 3 hour show when you need to play at the absolute best. tweaker 1 Link to comment
HippoSucks Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 England can win against the West Indies, even though they already lost once. England's bowling is too weak to win against India. Link to comment
fineleg Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 56 minutes ago, HippoSucks said: England can win against the West Indies, even though they already lost once. England's bowling is too weak to win against India. India's batting is too weak (without magic of VK) to win against 'so called weak' Eng bowlers. adi B, diehardpacer, tweaker and 1 other 4 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 10 hours ago, asterix said: If India wins having no big hitter in the team and pathetic openers, it'll be a joke... Rohit, Dhoni, Pandya all 3 are big hitters. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 9 hours ago, adi B said: I was thinking the same lol,it'll be perhaps because of our bowling performances but England and windies are certainly powrr house in t20 format with their explosive batting line ups what did Windies do at Nagpur. If you get pitches like Nagpur, hitters dont matter. In all our games, we have got slow pitches which are not suitable for hitting. We have a batsman with 2 ODI double hundreds and people are saying we dont have hitters. We also have Dhoni who can hit as big as any in the world. Dont forget Pandya who should what he can do in those 7 balls against BD. 3 hours ago, WC2011INDIA said: I was damn confident we would win world t20 in 2014, but sanga pooped on that.... May the best team win the tournament. we didnt have a score. How could we have won? Rightarmfast 1 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, fineleg said: India's batting is too weak (without magic of VK) to win against 'so called weak' Eng bowlers. Indian batting is not weak. They are just not in flow. This batting won Asia cup and T20 series in Aus, scoring 180 plus in all 3 games. batting has lost the flow they gained in Aus due to bad pitches first in Asia cup and then in this World T20 in Nagpur and Kolkata. Cricket is all about momentum and confidence. Once you lose that, it is not easy to get it back. On the contrary, England played mostly on good batting pitches at Wankhede and Delhi. Edited March 31, 2016 by rkt.india Rightarmfast 1 Link to comment
adi B Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 10 hours ago, Yoda-esque said: Maybe its just a feeling but I think England have exhausted their batting mojo for the tournament... They have definitely peaked while we still have a ways to go,there are two matches for us to do that.Lets see.. Lol what's with this stupid peaking stuff and all!! These theories work only in long tournaments like ipl or maybe the cricket wc which lasts more than 1 month not in wt20 which is just a 15 day tournament.any team can defeat anybody on that day just a matter of time which batsmen will go berserk that day or which bowler will wreck havoc.Both England and windies have plenty of players who can do both if tbe others are 'exhausted' unlike india which I believe is too methodical side for a t20 tournament Link to comment
adi B Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 8 hours ago, YCCC said: Anti-jinx. England are definitely not winning this tournament. We've peaked today and it's all downhill from here. Our gun batting line up will be bamboozled by Ashwin or the Windies will bash us all over Kolkata Wait for moen and rashes bhai to choke india or windies by creating a spin web on the eden pitch lol Link to comment
adi B Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 1 hour ago, rkt.india said: what did Windies do at Nagpur. If you get pitches like Nagpur, hitters dont matter. In all our games, we have got slow pitches which are not suitable for hitting. We have a batsman with 2 ODI double hundreds and people are saying we dont have hitters. We also have Dhoni who can hit as big as any in the world. Dont forget Pandya who should what he can do in those 7 balls against BD. we didnt have a score. How could we have won? What did we do at nagpur? to compare explosiveness in batting line ups ,you need to compare how they'd perform on flat pitches which is the norm nowadays.between why are you talking about nagpur? If our semi was at nagpur,i would have been confident enough to beat Windies but its in mumbai so its a battle between two batting line ups where I feel windies edges us Link to comment
nitinbwj Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 ahahah...so much doubt..Eng have only 2 players to do any damage ..ROY (Who hasn't fired against India Yet) and Buttler..Rest is hit and miss.Their bowling is shyte.Windies will do jack shit in wankhede..Gayle can't hit spinners and we have Dhoni's Luck as well We are winning this.. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 (edited) 13 minutes ago, nitinbwj said: ahahah...so much doubt..Eng have only 2 players to do any damage ..ROY (Who hasn't fired against India Yet) and Buttler..Rest is hit and miss.Their bowling is shyte.Windies will do jack shit in wankhede..Gayle can't hit spinners and we have Dhoni's Luck as well We are winning this.. Their bowling is not shyte. Jordan is the key. He lands good yorkers, difficult to get away. Edited March 31, 2016 by rkt.india Link to comment
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