Everyone blames Rahane - but what abt team management?

[Vilander]

1 minute ago, WC2011INDIA said:

Shastri has his clear favourites in the team.

Anyways, it wouldn't have mattered if Rahane had scored a 20 ball 40 or 60 off 35. WI would have still chased it because bowling and captaincy was pathetic.

 

True WI would have chased 210 also...good team. India needed 220 to win, with no noballs..

[Bleed-Blue]

They should of started hitting from the 12/13 over, they need to be more flexible in the approach whith 9 wickets in hand u dont need to wait til the 15/ 16 over to start hitting 

[maniac]

1 hour ago, Viper said:

8 overs needed one miss hit and It has nothing for spinners where Virat had 3 or 4 runs with 1 wic.. In 1st over

 

HE GOT SMASHED when they are playing normally..  Should be happy he didn't bowl when they are going nuts 

 

He would have broke the record.. 

 

How many overs did he bowl last match ?  How did he do on better pitch than this.. 

 

How much did Dhobi make as a batsman???

 

the Kohli first over was as much of a fluke as the bangla midgets gift wrapping the game for us.

 

you have to bowl your frontline bowler and yeah if Dhoni was a genius and spinners we're going to be tonked he should have played an extra seamer rather than sticking to this numerology crap of playing the same team

[maniac]

3 minutes ago, Viper said:

Oops touched the nerve as expected. .

 Lol fluke he bowled well than those best spinners anyway.. who expected spinners will turn out this way ?? Its easy to say it should done this way and that after the match.. 

 

Hmm looks like u skipped the first question....any commens on dhonis innings?

 

who expects??? There are things called strategy, playing according to the conditions etc etc but again just like your idol u look beyond that.

 

if this was a greentop or a dustbowl we would have played the same combo.... I am sure yuvi cannot even get up from his bed bcoz of the injury else he would have played to keep the same combo even sitting in a wheel chair

[maniac]

1 minute ago, Viper said:

He has 2nd best average in present team..  so sad man should have had your idol sachin here would have helped a rahane like innings and of course he ll make sure he reaches his 50.. if you have better so called strategy against sloggers you should have played in place of him.

 

Yuvi could have used as extra bowler atleast lol pandey didn't even get to bat

 

Shoaib Malik is averaging nearly a 100 too I beleive whatta legend.

 

Simple Dhoni is a poor T20 player and his captaincy has been stale since 2011.

 

werent you saying Dhoni was advising Pandya etc in games on how to bowl.... Well guess what Jadeja was bowling half volleys on half stump.

 

looks like Dhoni advices bowlers only when the team is winning.

 

anyways it's not about this match...overall in this tourney Dhoni has been poor as a captain

 

he mishandled his bowlers today simple.

 

i personally don't think the entire blame should go to Dhoni for today's defeat but when he is lauded whenever the bowlers deliver he needs to take criticism too.

 

 

[maniac]

Just now, Viper said:

Shohib malik is a good player in current pak team lol dhoni is just bad man sachin would have scored 50 100 there we miss a t20 legend like him. Me saying dhoni advised bla bla cool story made up.. Did anyone see him since last fews weeks random bunker randomly crawled out on ind's loose..  Don't see a difference between those paki trolls and some people here.. like I said sachin would have done better hands down.  A t20 legend and a great captain. #nerve

 

I don't get it....why do you keep bringing Sachin into this topic or am I missing something?

 

Sadly the illogical part of you bringing up Sachin is the most coherent part of your post

 

[express bowling]

58 minutes ago, maniac said:

 

 

 There are things called strategy, playing according to the conditions etc etc but again just like your idol u look beyond that.

 

if this was a greentop or a dustbowl we would have played the same combo.... I am sure yuvi cannot even get up from his bed bcoz of the injury else he would have played to keep the same combo even sitting in a wheel chair

Quite a few tactics and strategies by Dhoni in the last two tournaments raise questions ----

• Playing with 2 specialist spinners on the green-tops of the Asia Cup and not playing the extra pacer.  ( We were saved by the fact that all the other Asian teams have poor or mediocre teams )
• Bowling part time spinners, Yuvi and Raina, on those green tops. We did not see much of seamer Kohli then and Pandya did not always  finish his quota on those green-tops.  We often saw seamers bowling just 10 overs on green-tops.
• Spinners bowling just 9 overs out of 20 on even rank turners in the league games of this tournament.
• Not bowling Yuvi at all in the first 3 league games, although 2 of them were rank turners.
• Not finishing the full quota of the best bowler of the match in 2 of the games in this tournament.
• Giving crucial last overs of crucial matches to part-time bowlers in 2 or 3 matches in this WC
• Not adequately testing out new batsmen or spinners in the build-up to the World T20, in the last 6 months.
• Not changing the playing 11 in almost all the matches, no matter how the pitches are...unless forced by injury.

 

 

Edited March 31, 2016 by express bowling

[Shivaji bhonsle]

Watching Rahane bat in t 20s is so boring. To think he opened the innings with that pathetic strike rate is lol worthy.

 

 

should have never been selected in the 15 men squad. Imo, they

should have continued with Dhawan and asked him to go for the shots from the first over.

[Lannister]

What I found silly was Dhoni giving strike to Kohli in the final overs like some kind of tail-ender and now, his fans are targeting Rahane for doing the same. Both players are trash in this format. 

[Ranjha]

Fearless cricket is required in t20s to succeed..atleast two power hitters who can go the aerial route are required in a successful team.

[kosingh]

6 minutes ago, Lannister said:

What I found silly was Dhoni giving strike to Kohli in the final overs like some kind of tail-ender and now, his fans are targeting Rahane for doing the same. Both players are trash in this format. 

Exactly. If Rahane had scored at the same strike rate as Dhoni, we would have 18 runs more. Rahane's innings is up there with Yuvi 2014 innings. Or Prabhakar/Mongia's infamous partnership from the 90s.  

[Lannister]

10 minutes ago, kosingh said:

Exactly. If Rahane had scored at the same strike rate as Dhoni, we would have 18 runs more. Rahane's innings is up there with Yuvi 2014 innings. Or Prabhakar/Mongia's infamous partnership from the 90s.  

 

lol what strike rate, if you mean by striking 1s and 2s, yeah he was very good. 

[kosingh]

1 minute ago, Lannister said:

 

lol what strike rate, if you mean by striking 1s and 2s, yeah he was very good. 

 

We can only wish the Mumbai Snail scored 1s and 2s at Dhoni's strike rate of 166

[Lannister]

Just now, kosingh said:

 

We can only wish the Mumbai Snail scored 1s and 2s at Dhoni's strike rate of 166

 

At one stage, even Kohli has had enough of Dhoni's strike rate and refused to give him a strike. That must've severely hurt his ego, don't ya think?

[Mosher]

Poor team selection by the selectors is one of the main reasons too. We were lucky to get to the semi-final

 

with this team of oldies. Selectors should have selected players - youngsters who play fearless cricket and

 

who can hit big from ball one.  Just look at the WI team, filled with big hitters. Hope Dhawan, Raina, Yuvi

 

and Rahane are dropped.

Edited April 1, 2016 by Mosher

[kosingh]

16 minutes ago, Lannister said:

 

At one stage, even Kohli has had enough of Dhoni's strike rate and refused to give him a strike. That must've severely hurt his ego, don't ya think?

Yes, this I agree with. Dhoni does have a massive ego. 

[diehardpacer]

Team needs to accept Rahane's limitations.He has been our best test player in these 2 years.But making him play T20s is just stupidity.I don't think he can say no,if he is asked to play T20.It's team management's responsibility to understand players limitation.

[rkt.india]

1 hour ago, kosingh said:

Exactly. If Rahane had scored at the same strike rate as Dhoni, we would have 18 runs more. Rahane's innings is up there with Yuvi 2014 innings. Or Prabhakar/Mongia's infamous partnership from the 90s.  

at the end, you need 4 s and 6s. Dhoni hit 1 4 in 9 balls. Even Pandya against BD on a worse pitch hit 2 4s and a 6 in 6 balls. You need 9 ball 25- kind of innings then.

[asterix]

8 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

at the end, you need 4 s and 6s. Dhoni hit 1 4 in 9 balls. Even Pandya against BD on a worse pitch hit 2 4s and a 6 in 6 balls. You need 9 ball 25- kind of innings then.

But but but Dhoni runs so fast, why does he needs to hit boundaries?

[Adi_91]

19 minutes ago, asterix said:

But but but Dhoni runs so fast, why does he needs to hit boundaries?

 

Correct. His strike rate was 200, well acceptable for T20 format even without boundaries.