Bat first, win the toss & win the match? India wins luck dependent?

[Sooda]

2 hours ago, putrevus said:

I do not think if England won the toss this match they would be winning or even drawing this match as our bowlers bowled lot better than the first test.

Hm... im not sure, i think They would have had a good chance of drawing at least, our batsmen arent the good players of sping they once were

[rkt.india]

6 hours ago, Sooda said:

Hm... im not sure, i think They would have had a good chance of drawing at least, our batsmen arent the good players of sping they once were

But there wasn't much for the spinners at all in the pitch.

[diga]

6 hours ago, Sooda said:

Hm... im not sure, i think They would have had a good chance of drawing at least, our batsmen arent the good players of sping they once were

Rashid/Moeen/Ansari are not in the same class as Swann/Panesar... 

[Vijy]

On 11/21/2016 at 10:40 PM, diga said:

Rashid/Moeen/Ansari are not in the same class as Swann/Panesar... 

True, but Ansari isn't a spinner... mostly a slow medium bowler who bowls a loose line and length.

[putrevus]

On 11/21/2016 at 4:15 PM, Sooda said:

Hm... im not sure, i think They would have had a good chance of drawing at least, our batsmen arent the good players of sping they once were

Sorry I will take this group of batsmen  over Sachin and other Fab4 everyday of the week.

 

That fab5 batsmen never functioned as team,  on talent alone they were on par if not superior to any batting lineup in history of cricket.They were so weak mentally that they never justified their talent.

Edited November 23, 2016 by putrevus

[sandeep]

2 minutes ago, putrevus said:

Sorry I will take this group of batsmen  over Sachin and other Fab4 everyday of the week.

 

That fab5 batsmen never functioned as team,  on talent alone they were on par if not superior to any batting lineup in history of cricket.They were so weak mentally that they were justified their talent.

Bit harsh.  But its true that the 'fab four' did not create as many test winning opportunities for the bowlers as you would expect.  Even the great Aussie series of 2004 was made possible by the consistently solid starts that Sehwag and Akash Chopra gave us.  Sure there were a few games they won - Pakistan series, that Headingley test, etc but nearly not as many as you would think.  Reminds me of Kumble's statement after bowling with a fractured jaw, paraphrasing a bit -  "not many times that I have had the chance to bowl overseas with 500 runs behind me".  

[express bowling]

We have won this  test match at home after batting 2nd after losing the toss

 

Comprehensive 8 wicket victory  !!

[G_B_]

there goes the hypothesis....

 

happy to be proven wrong. 

[Sachinism]

Glad to win this one after losing the toss. Certain English pundits were clinging on to that excuse after the last match

[Cricketics]

13 minutes ago, Sachinism said:

Glad to win this one after losing the toss. Certain English pundits were clinging on to that excuse after the last match

Yes. As they say "Death of Myths"

[Vijy]

12 hours ago, Sachinism said:

Glad to win this one after losing the toss. Certain English pundits were clinging on to that excuse after the last match

They have already found a couple of new alternatives.

[diga]

1 hour ago, Vijy said:

They have already found a couple of new alternatives.

I think the bits & pieces allrounders like Ali / Butler dont cut it outside England... They need real quality batsmen

[Vijy]

15 minutes ago, diga said:

I think the bits & pieces allrounders like Ali / Butler dont cut it outside England... They need real quality batsmen

I meant that they had found alternative excuses. But, I agree that their team has too many "allrounders" and too few specialists. With Stokes, Woakes and Rashid, they don't need likes of Batty and Ansari (arguably even Ali).

[New guy]

On Wednesday, November 23, 2016 at 7:46 PM, putrevus said:

Sorry I will take this group of batsmen  over Sachin and other Fab4 everyday of the week.

 

That fab5 batsmen never functioned as team,  on talent alone they were on par if not superior to any batting lineup in history of cricket.They were so weak mentally that they never justified their talent.

the biggest problem with the internet is that it gives a place for complete morons to spout their garbage. and like every moron its some random nonsense with no supporting facts here because we won 2 tests at home. 

[putrevus]

2 minutes ago, New guy said:

the biggest problem with the internet is that it gives a place for complete morons to spout their garbage. and like every moron its some random nonsense with no supporting facts here because we won 2 tests at home. 

The biggest problem with internet  is some complete morons don't have common sense to accept other people's views.They come across know all idiots who think  others shouldn't  differ from their personal views.

 

 

 

 

[express bowling]

2nd win by India in a test match in  this series , after losing the toss.

 

Another theory by the English cricket team down the drain.             

[express bowling]

We have lost 4 out of the 5 tosses in this test series against England  but have won 4-0

 

Take notice England

 

 

[CG]

On 11/23/2016 at 7:46 PM, putrevus said:

Sorry I will take this group of batsmen  over Sachin and other Fab4 everyday of the week.

 

That fab5 batsmen never functioned as team,  on talent alone they were on par if not superior to any batting lineup in history of cricket.They were so weak mentally that they never justified their talent.

You cant possibly compare the bowlers they faced.1990-2010 Had some of the best bowlers be it fast bowlers or spinners in cricketing history.

Lastly cricket is a team game Test matches are won by bowlers not batsman.