fineleg Posted January 15, 2017 Posted January 15, 2017 (edited) Quote You may call it the Tamil Nadu version of the Arab Spring, or it may even remind you of the anti-Hindi agitation in the state in the 1960s. It is happening -- students and youngsters are on the roads and public places demanding the conduct of jallikattu, the traditional bull-taming sport in the state.The youngsters are protesting against the failure of the central and state governments to enable the conduct of jallikatttu+ during the just concluded Pongal festival. They are protesting against animal welfare organisations like People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals+ (PETA) on whose petitions the Supreme Court banned the bull-taming sport. The protest reached a crescendo when the thousands of youngsters assembled on the Marina Beach in Chennai on Tuesday. They continued their protest overnight. On Wednesday, the demonstrators refused to budge until chief minister O Panneerselvam intervened.After talks with senior police officers failed last night, the ruling AIADMK sent fisheries minister D Jayakumar and school education minister Mafoi K Pandiarajan to speak with the protesters on behalf of the government. However, the protesters demanded that the chief minister issue a statement to clarify the state's position on the Jallikattu issue and added that the protest will not cease until such a time.Several college students bunked classes to be at the protest venue with numbers swelling as the day progressed. Film actor Raghava Lawrence was the latest Kollywood representative to express support when he joined the demonstration opposite the Ice House on Kamarajar Salai.Traffic came to a standstill on the Old Mahabalipuram Road (OMR) in Chennai when the students of the Sathyabama University staged a pro-jallikattu protest. Protests were happening other parts of the city too. NDTV Edited January 18, 2017 by BeautifulGame tweaker and StriKe 2
MechEng Posted January 16, 2017 Posted January 16, 2017 (edited) There is no good reason to ban Jallikattu, PETA wants to halt to India's indigenous cattle production and force us to import cattle for milk production. This is a good site to understand more about Jallikattu - http://jallikattu.in/?page_id=397 Edited January 16, 2017 by MechEng jalebi_bhai and G_B_ 2
G_B_ Posted January 17, 2017 Posted January 17, 2017 Supreme court is a joke Sent from my Wileyfox Swift using Tapatalk
mishra Posted January 17, 2017 Posted January 17, 2017 (edited) Seriously, What cruelty is involved in Jalikattu? It should be comapred to Pamlona Bull run and NOT with Spanish bull fight where bull is pre injured to make it sluggish and destined to die Edited January 17, 2017 by mishra tweaker 1
Singh bling Posted January 18, 2017 Posted January 18, 2017 Massive protests in Tamil Nadu , issue is much bigger than thought
Yoda-esque Posted January 18, 2017 Posted January 18, 2017 Finally, the South awakes..good Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G890A using Tapatalk
BeautifulGame Posted January 18, 2017 Posted January 18, 2017 Good thing is so far all the protests have been very peaceful. Considering the major involvement is students and it being a emotive issue that in itself is a big success. Hopefully center steps in soom and make the amendment.
BeautifulGame Posted January 18, 2017 Posted January 18, 2017 The irony is we didn't even get half this coverage during Chennai floods GoldenSun 1
Malcolm Merlyn Posted January 18, 2017 Posted January 18, 2017 This is not going to stop.This is a non political spontaneous public protest.There has to be a limit to the interference of SC in such matters.I can understand if SC bans something when it violates the fundamental rights but banning things on animals for cruelty?What next ban non veg food? Vilander and jalebi_bhai 2
Malcolm Merlyn Posted January 18, 2017 Posted January 18, 2017 Let there be a JalliKattu Premier League with HD telecast and commentary.Let the whole world watch it. Have the Spanish banned Bull Fighting?
BeautifulGame Posted January 18, 2017 Posted January 18, 2017 Schools and collages have been shut tomorrow in Tomorrow. CM Paneer Selvan is meeting Modi tomorrow
vvvslaxman Posted January 18, 2017 Posted January 18, 2017 Supreme court with all the pending cases chose to make this a priority. More than bull fighting it is the hypocrisy they have shown ticked many off. Mariyam 1
BeautifulGame Posted January 18, 2017 Posted January 18, 2017 We are protesting to preserve Jallikattu not just because its the cultural sport of Tami Nadu and its the key to preserve our native breeds.There were 130 or so cattle breeds in India 100 years ago and now there are only 37.If not preserved they will also soon become extinct and without Jallikattu its not possible. https://thewire.in/19157/banning-jallikattu-will-decimate-indias-indigenous-cattle-breeds/ The whole article is a great read but the final para sums it up Quote Under the Convention on Biological Diversity and heritage status practices worldwide, it is customary that these ancient traditional practices are left as they are but with rules to organise and regulate them. If jallikattu is banned, livestock keepers will be forced to abandon the raising of native livestock, which already stands threatened due to the extensive use of motor pumps, tractors and mechanised agriculture. If the sport is banned, it would be the death knell of native cattle species in Tamil Nadu. We will not only lose our breeds but also our self-sufficiency in milk production as well as promotion of organic farming. If we lose our breeds and import foreign breeds, multinational commercial companies will dominate the dairy industry in India. The livelihood of millions in rural India is at stake here. People who want a ban on jallikattu are far removed from village life and do not know how this chain works. The Supreme Court and the Government of India needs to look at the big picture behind jallikattu. The Convention on Biological Diversity (CBD) supports traditional practices to keep the chain intact and thus enable conservation of native breeds. As an ancient nation with an ancient practice going back millennia, jallikattu should be preserved. There is no torture of any animal of any sort that takes place during the sport and the evidence of this can be seen from live media telecasts. The time a bull spends engaged in the sport is less than 30 seconds. If required, rules can be implemented to enhance the safety of the animals and men if required. India has already lost many cattle breeds and it can’t afford to lose any more.
Yoda-esque Posted January 18, 2017 Posted January 18, 2017 37 minutes ago, BeautifulGame said: We are protesting to preserve Jallikattu not just because its the cultural sport of Tami Nadu and its the key to preserve our native breeds.There were 130 or so cattle breeds in India 100 years ago and now there are only 37.If not preserved they will also soon become extinct and without Jallikattu its not possible. https://thewire.in/19157/banning-jallikattu-will-decimate-indias-indigenous-cattle-breeds/ The whole article is a great read but the final para sums it up If the same festival applied to a North Indian tradition, Wire would have panned it...lol I guess Virulent Varadrajan has finally gone back to his south indian roots..
Muloghonto Posted January 18, 2017 Posted January 18, 2017 Sad thing is, people need to realize that we, as a species are not good at taking care of animal interests that don't serve us. If Jalikattu is banned, its going to lead to collapse of the bull population in TN, because you don't need more than 1-2 bulls for studding and otherwise you'd rather have cows. Its Jalikattu that is keeping hundreds of bulls alive, who'd otherwise be slaughtered for their meat and leather. People need to realize, that best way to conserve a species is to involve it in human world. Because then we have an incentive to protect it. Detonator, CommonMan, Vilander and 3 others 6
Singh bling Posted January 18, 2017 Posted January 18, 2017 On 1/17/2017 at 3:21 PM, G_B_ said: Supreme court is a joke Sent from my Wileyfox Swift using Tapatalk It was UPA-2 that put bulls under non performing animals in 2011 and supreme court just followed that law.What surprises me that UPA-2 had Tamilians like Chidambram and support of DMK in 2011 .They too did not protest against putting bull in non performing animal list I think Tamil politicians themselves were unaware that Jallikattu is such a big issue for people of Tamil Nadu Quote A modified notification by the Ministry of Environment was issued in 2011 effectively including bulls under “non-performing animals”, subsequently banning Jallikattu. http://www.news18.com/news/india/jallikattu-is-not-just-bull-its-also-about-animal-spirits-1335988.html G_B_ 1
Malcolm Merlyn Posted January 19, 2017 Posted January 19, 2017 13 hours ago, Singh bling said: It was UPA-2 that put bulls under non performing animals in 2011 and supreme court just followed that law.What surprises me that UPA-2 had Tamilians like Chidambram and support of DMK in 2011 .They too did not protest against putting bull in non performing animal list I think Tamil politicians themselves were unaware that Jallikattu is such a big issue for people of Tamil Nadu The govt in 2015 changed the notification,but SC stayed it. So changing in 2011 was OK for SC but in 2015 it was not.
Singh bling Posted January 19, 2017 Posted January 19, 2017 3 hours ago, Malcolm Merlyn said: The govt in 2015 changed the notification,but SC stayed it. So changing in 2011 was OK for SC but in 2015 it was not. Then SC should definately allow it , and Tamil politicians should also be more careful what is important for their culture or not. Congress in 2016 Tamil Nadu elections said in their manifesto that they support ban on Jallikattu Quote The Congress which is criticising the Narendra Modi Government for the ban on Jallikattu, had in its manifesto for the Tamil Nadu Assembly Election in May 2016 had declared that it would ban the Jallikattu. “The party supports the ban on Jallikattu,” said the Congress manifesto. “Tamil Nadu Assembly elections 2016: Congress releases manifesto, promises ban on Jallikattu”, the dailies had carried banner headlined reports the day after the manifesto was released by Mukul Wasnik, AICC general secretary. http://www.dailypioneer.com/nation/we-support-ban-on-jallikattu-cong-2016-may-manifesto.html
Vilander Posted January 19, 2017 Posted January 19, 2017 20 hours ago, Muloghonto said: Sad thing is, people need to realize that we, as a species are not good at taking care of animal interests that don't serve us. If Jalikattu is banned, its going to lead to collapse of the bull population in TN, because you don't need more than 1-2 bulls for studding and otherwise you'd rather have cows. Its Jalikattu that is keeping hundreds of bulls alive, who'd otherwise be slaughtered for their meat and leather. People need to realize, that best way to conserve a species is to involve it in human world. Because then we have an incentive to protect it. great post. Muloghonto 1
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