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2 hours ago, kubrickian said:

. GoldenSun, if you have balls then write a reply. Dont downvote comment just because you dont agree with it like a bloody coward. :rofl: 

who is he ,i have got both negative and positive votes from him :hysterical:

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32 minutes ago, Pace90 said:

Although, Dhoni is much bigger player than Misbah ever was, but he is going the Misbah way, who gained some respect with some success but became greedy and delayed his retirement until he led Pakistan to humiliation defeats  overseas and lost all the respect he gained. Dhoni is an ATG cricketer and hope selectors will make timely decision on him to save his legacy. 

he is playing like misbah these days for sure

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The wine is oxidising fast. Add Antigua 2017 to the list of matches MS Dhoni has failed to finish off since 2014. He scored India's slowest half-century in 16 years as they failed to chase down 190 on a slow pitch against a spirited attack that managed to tide over a costly drop and a tactical blunder in the concluding stages. Jason Holder compensated for bowling Roston Chase in the 44th over with a maiden five-for, but it was Kesrick Williams, playing only his second ODI, who frustrated the hell out of Dhoni, conceding just 13 in four overs after the 40th and taking Dhoni out with the last ball he bowled.

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Why to tag me in such post, i have never ever been a blind fan or neither wud be

If i m writing dhoni is in his struggling phase whats difficult to understand .......Now u choose to give up on him and i dnt and we both have reason

 

About yesterday game , well it was poor innings but blaming him alone is bizzare. 

The rightway to put it is 11 men lost the game , dhoni played a poor knock which actually took us atleast a bit close but he also made sure all the doors are shut. I have been critcial of his batting ideas of taking the game till last over as stupid now coz it hasnt been working. Reason he isnt the same batsman anymore, so wen he has understood that change the game plan and thats what adaptation is. Its not hidden truth that he has been struggling against spinners specially the one who takes the ball away.....but this is something that can be worked on . M ok if he is being dropped for few series but for me he shud be part of 2019 plans. In his struggle atleast he still takes responsibility and tries ......yes is not at its best to execute . 

He looks to be lacking self belief to step out n hit and many have gone through these mental issues and come out of it. 

 

If a guy struggling with his game is still trying more then others, the problem only cant be dhoni and blame cant be only on him. He deserves a huge share of blame but not alone . 

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this is the list,you can add two matches in nz in early 2014 to this list,where there first signs he is on downfall

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6 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Why to tag me in such post, i have never ever been a blind fan or neither wud be

If i m writing dhoni is in his struggling phase whats difficult to understand .......Now u choose to give up on him and i dnt and we both have reason

 

About yesterday game , well it was poor innings but blaming him alone is bizzare. 

The rightway to put it is 11 men lost the game , dhoni played a poor knock which actually took us atleast a bit close but he also made sure all the doors are shut. I have been critcial of his batting ideas of taking the game till last over as stupid now coz it hasnt been working. Reason he isnt the same batsman anymore, so wen he has understood that change the game plan and thats what adaptation is. Its not hidden truth that he has been struggling against spinners specially the one who takes the ball away.....but this is something that can be worked on . M ok if he is being dropped for few series but for me he shud be part of 2019 plans. In his struggle atleast he still takes responsibility and tries ......yes is not at its best to execute . 

He looks to be lacking self belief to step out n hit and many have gone through these mental issues and come out of it. 

 

If a guy struggling with his game is still trying more then others, the problem only cant be dhoni and blame cant be only on him. He deserves a huge share of blame but not alone . 

he has been lacking this for a while,people thought he can still go back to his uninhibited best once he leaves burden of capataincy but its clear he has lost the ability

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2 hours ago, asterix said:

Something is not right... India is a top team and randomly/selectively losing matches to keep other teams/fans motivated in the cricketing World is not the way forward for BCCI to gain support from other boards on various issues.

 

Senior players themselves should tell BCCI that Country comes first. No more wheeling and dealings as far as countries reputation is concerned... Also by losing matches like this they are creating more suspicion...

Enough of this "Sabka Saath,Sabka Vikaas"...

Even the winning opponents can't believe they won on AutoPilot...

I too suspect the same, But other way round. BCCI wants fans to loose interest in Borefest international odi's and make IPL even more competitive.

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11 minutes ago, SK_IH said:

he has been lacking this for a while,people thought he can still go back to his uninhibited best once he leaves burden of capataincy but its clear he has lost the ability

It hasnt been since he left captaincy long and he looks to be at helm of things still...

These things takes time

He has developed diff habbits as batsman for many years now which has become his instincts now .....it wnt change in few mnths. He really wud have to work hard over it 

May be dropping him might be the way so he can go n concentrate on his individual game and meanwhile we get more spots to try some other players. Kohli to shud learn how to manage without dhoni 

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8 hours ago, Pollack said:

Would accept Jadhav and Pandya not taking responsibility when they get fair chance to bat. With Yuvraj and Dhoni at 4 and 5 if a match is lost due to batting failure in middle order would always blame them. They are solely in the team justified by their experience tag. So display it and not blame others .

Two different issues .

Dhoni should have won this match for us and hes been falling short quite frequently in chasing in the last 2 years .Thats a fact .

Whats the solution ? Drop him ? May be thats the right thing to do if we dont see him doing well in the next wc .

 

What I dont agree here , is that we lost the match cos of Dhoni . Thats a load of rubbish . We lost the match cos we lost wickets , not cos either Rahane of Dhoni played slow . 

 

9 hours ago, Pollack said:

How many matches have Jadhav and Pandya got chance to finish games? Jadhav rarely gets to bat and he does his job most times. Same with Pandya.  On one hand dhoni fans defend pitch was slow and on the other hand blame rookie Pandya for not finishing with run a ball required. Jadeja is a specialist bowler not finisher.Why should we blame them for not finishing? Isn't kohli continuing with dhoni and Yuvraj for their experience? Why not expect them to do the job? If you want Pandya and Jadhav to start finishing games give them more match practise. Stop coming ahead of them to bat and let them get more experience of building innings and pacing innings. 

 

Jadhav is yet to finish a single match . Even Jadhav's best innings till date , he choked towards the end and got out without finishing the match . its completely different from slogging when you are batting first and taking your team home while chasing and Jadhav is unproven in this aspect .

 

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23 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

It hasnt been since he left captaincy long and he looks to be at helm of things still...

These things takes time

He has developed diff habbits as batsman for many years now which has become his instincts now .....it wnt change in few mnths. He really wud have to work hard over it 

May be dropping him might be the way so he can go n concentrate on his individual game and meanwhile we get more spots to try some other players. Kohli to shud learn how to manage without dhoni 

i think it will be difficult now to get rid of the mindset he has embraced and i think there is no point carrying him till next world cup and i hop e he himself accept the reality

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6 hours ago, New guy said:

Didn't you call Sachin's 100 against Bangla selfish despite team scoring 293 and being unable to defend? What would you call this 50? Was it selfish? For personal milestone? Average? 

That was selfish and he was right for calling him out :hysterical:

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7 hours ago, Sidhoni said:

Good to see this place alive again. It was so gloomy the other day as India won and Dhoni was MOTM, now a loss and all is well.

It was so dead man... Trolls crawled out at the end of the match who were no where to be seen :hysterical: 

 

 

Chalo atleast they are happy India lost the match.. True patriots wishing India to lose LOL i doubt even a Pakistani would want that.. 

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2 hours ago, kubrickian said:

Abe chu... GoldenSun, if you have balls then write a reply. Dont downvote comment just because you dont agree with it like a bloody coward. :rofl: 

He is epic troll... doesn't post just down votes people :aha::aha::aha:

 

Goldenbro u r a legend but spare me:((

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28 minutes ago, jusarrived said:

Two different issues .

Dhoni should have won this match for us and hes been falling short quite frequently in chasing in the last 2 years .Thats a fact .

Whats the solution ? Drop him ? May be thats the right thing to do if we dont see him doing well in the next wc .

 

What I dont agree here , is that we lost the match cos of Dhoni . Thats a load of rubbish . We lost the match cos we lost wickets , not cos either Rahane of Dhoni played slow . 

 

 

Jadhav is yet to finish a single match . Even Jadhav's best innings till date , he choked towards the end and got out without finishing the match . its completely different from slogging when you are batting first and taking your team home while chasing and Jadhav is unproven in this aspect .

 

Another person who called Sachin selfish because of a slow innings where he struggled. But the hypocrite now has no problem with Dhoni's slow innings

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