sourab10forever Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Absolute hack bowling that...how does he get so many wickets? No variation. Nothing special...just How? JaFanatic and Lannister 1 1 Link to comment
sandeep Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 9 minutes ago, sourab10forever said: Absolute hack bowling that...how does he get so many wickets? No variation. Nothing special...just How? He's so ordinary that batsmen can't help but relax against him, and fall prey to subtle changes of pace. express bowling 1 Link to comment
sourab10forever Posted August 20, 2017 Author Share Posted August 20, 2017 (edited) 13 wickets in 48 overs.. Avg of 19 after 12 Innings so far Edited August 20, 2017 by sourab10forever Link to comment
Shunya Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Isnt this how all part timers work in Cricket? Batsman relaxes or tries to over-attack against 5-6-7th bowler. You just need to know little skill of playing around with length, angles, etc. Kedar is in the mould of Sachin, Sehwag, Yuvi, Raina, etc... we have had bunch of part time spin bowlers in ODIs over the years. Everyone has been handy at certain point. Mistake will be to consider him as your 5th bowler and expect him to give 10 overs or so. Jadhav has decent guile to fox a batsman and can be handy for 4-5 overs at max. Link to comment
Forever Indian Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 40 minutes ago, sourab10forever said: Absolute hack bowling that...how does he get so many wickets? No variation. Nothing special...just How? It is actually his variations that fetch him wickets. He has the high arm ball, very side arm ball (which stays low), variations in seam (scrambled and proper seam) and also bowls at various points across the crease. OpeningBatsman 1 Link to comment
Lannister Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 I am not at all convinced with his batting, which is more important to the team than his bowling. Link to comment
gattaca Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 4 minutes ago, Lannister said: I am not at all convinced with his batting, which is more important to the team than his bowling. Lol. He is most impact bat down the order the only one in the squad who can fetch quick runs done multiple times. rahulrulezz, Ironhide and JaFanatic 3 Link to comment
sandeep Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 24 minutes ago, Shunya said: Kedar is in the mould of Sachin, Sehwag, Yuvi, Raina, etc... we have had bunch of part time spin bowlers in ODIs over the years. Sorry - Jadhav is nowhere near the level of Sachin or Veeru as bowlers. Veeru really didn't use his bowling much, especially in the 2nd half of his career, but was a legit bowler when he started off. And Sachin was a bowling polymath. Link to comment
sandeep Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 10 minutes ago, Lannister said: I am not at all convinced with his batting, which is more important to the team than his bowling. 5 minutes ago, gattaca said: Lol. He is most impact bat down the order the only one in the squad who can fetch quick runs done multiple times. He's doing one of the toughest jobs in ODI cricket - coming in and having to find boundaries right away, while expected to maintain consistency. So far, he's done quite well to fill the Raina gap at #6, in spite of a clearly deficient power game. He doesn't "look the part" but somehow gets it done. Not unlike his bowling, actually. JaFanatic 1 Link to comment
Forever Indian Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 4 minutes ago, sandeep said: He's doing one of the toughest jobs in ODI cricket - coming in and having to find boundaries right away, while expected to maintain consistency. So far, he's done quite well to fill the Raina gap at #6, in spite of a clearly deficient power game. He doesn't "look the part" but somehow gets it done. Not unlike his bowling, actually. With a power game Raina had a SR of 93 averaging 35, whereas Jadhav without your alleged power game has a SR of 124 averaging 57. So not really sure what people are complaining about?! JaFanatic 1 Link to comment
sandeep Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 13 minutes ago, Forever Indian said: With a power game Raina had a SR of 93 averaging 35, whereas Jadhav without your alleged power game has a SR of 124 averaging 57. So not really sure what people are complaining about?! Where do you read 'complaining'? Didn't I say he's filling the Raina gap well? Doesn't the post you quoted read he's "getting it done"? Btw, Raina has done the job for years, all over the world. Let's see how Jadhav does in the home Aus series, and the away SA series. I like rooting for the guy, he's an underdog over-achiever type. And very streetsmart with his placements and shot selection. But let's be honest - his power hitting is nowhere near his strongest suit - there's always more than one way to skin a cat, especially in cricket - so if he keeps "doing the needful", then more "power" to him. Forever Indian 1 Link to comment
Kerberos Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 What more does kedar need to do to get praised? JaFanatic 1 Link to comment
express bowling Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 4 hours ago, Kerberos said: What more does kedar need to do to get praised? Use Wildstone deodorant Mosher 1 Link to comment
Texan Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 He is actually quite a thinking cricketer. Often people get overawed by what they perceive as "raw talent", someone like Rohit Sharma with his batting elegance or someone like Varun Aaron with his pace. However, cricket followers often underestimate the power of a thinking cricketer who can make the most of their skill and also those who read the situation well and play accordingly. Jadhav's bowling is a reflection of how he out-thinks other cricketers. He mixes up his bowling action, bowls different angles, varies pace to keep batsmen from settling in on a fixed trajectory. The fact that batsmen don't rate him as a bowler at all helps him even more. His batting is also a reflection of how he is adept at finding the gaps and keeping the score ticking. tweaker, flamy, Ironhide and 3 others 2 4 Link to comment
Khota Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 D 12 hours ago, sourab10forever said: Absolute hack bowling that...how does he get so many wickets? No variation. Nothing special...just How? Dumb luck! Link to comment
CoverDrive Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 (edited) some of his wickets are luck but he is ok bowler. He is accurate for a part timer - you can see that he is on the target from his first over. He has some interesting variations and they seem to be working right now. lets see how long he is effective. It is not like we have riches when it comes to batsmen who can bowl a bit. Kohli, Rohit etc. have regressed massively. They should really be getting Manish Pandey to bowl lot more. he can be used in England. Edited August 21, 2017 by CoverDrive Link to comment
someone Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 By bowling rubbish. That surprises the batsman. Ashwin also once mentioned it that he bowled rubbish deliveries to get Sehwag out in IPL. Today, modern batsman are so fluent in handling good deliveries, and that bowling rubbish can upset their rhythm. Link to comment
rahulrulezz Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 How can some one doubt his batting abilities is beyond me. He is the only guy in domestics, yes only one, to have an average above 50 after playing over 10 years of domestics (consistent) and a strike rate above 105. Many batsmen have got 50 plus average but not one batsman got them at above a 100 plus strike for 10 years consistently. Sadly thats not enough cuz he is not from Mumbai or delhi, plus the guy doesn't look elegant and sophisticated like Rahane and Rohit. Forever Indian 1 Link to comment
Pollack Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 51 minutes ago, rahulrulezz said: How can some one doubt his batting abilities is beyond me. He is the only guy in domestics, yes only one, to have an average above 50 after playing over 10 years of domestics (consistent) and a strike rate above 105. Many batsmen have got 50 plus average but not one batsman got them at above a 100 plus strike for 10 years consistently. Sadly thats not enough cuz he is not from Mumbai or delhi, plus the guy doesn't look elegant and sophisticated like Rahane and Rohit. The same reason Rayudu was hated. Not flamboyant, flashy and marketable both on and off the field. The way Rayudu is belittled one would assume he is the worst batsman in history of cricket which is not true. But who cares. Lmao. N.B: Please this is not comparison between Rayudu and Jadhav. Jadhav is head and shoulders above. Link to comment
Forever Indian Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 1 hour ago, Pollack said: The same reason Rayudu was hated. Not flamboyant, flashy and marketable both on and off the field. The way Rayudu is belittled one would assume he is the worst batsman in history of cricket which is not true. But who cares. Lmao. N.B: Please this is not comparison between Rayudu and Jadhav. Jadhav is head and shoulders above. Atleast for Rayudu the hate is understandable because of his low SR. This guy has a high batting average, high Strike rate, low bowling average, takes wickets, can be a back-up keeper and still gets so much flak!!! Link to comment
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