So what does Jadeja offer?

[The Realist]

5 hours ago, G_B_ said:

Lets not point fingers in general at our bowling. Reading the media you would think its been the batters that carried India to the semis. (not the case).

 

More than Jadeja the big question needs to be, what does Pandya offer. His bowling was just not good enough. His batting was either not needed or did not have much impact. 

 

You're forgetting how horrendous Jadeja was in the 2009 T20 WC in England. Sent up the order instead of the likes of Yusuf Pathan he was a deer in the headlights in the crunch match v Eng. Did a Rahane and ended up costing the game.

 

Since then he has not done much in the T20 format. Limited bowler, can't hit big or score quick runs and is only in the side as Dhoni's friend. Questions do need to be asked as to why he always plays when his stats and achievements are so poor.

[Adi_91]

14 minutes ago, The Realist said:

 

You're forgetting how horrendous Jadeja was in the 2009 T20 WC in England. Sent up the order instead of the likes of Yusuf Pathan he was a deer in the headlights in the crunch match v Eng. Did a Rahane and ended up costing the game.

 

Since then he has not done much in the T20 format. Limited bowler, can't hit big or score quick runs and is only in the side as Dhoni's friend. Questions do need to be asked as to why he always plays when his stats and achievements are so poor.

 

Poor guy played for the first time in that tournament and blasting him on his first performance is unfair IMHO.

[The Realist]

50 minutes ago, Adi_91 said:

 

Poor guy played for the first time in that tournament and blasting him on his first performance is unfair IMHO.

 

This was also Pandey's first tournament and he's performed at a much higher level compared to Jadeja in 09.

 

[Adi_91]

4 minutes ago, The Realist said:

 

This was also Pandey's first tournament and he's performed at a much higher level compared to Jadeja in 09.

 

 

Some may do it, some may not it. Agreed that Jadeja has been disappointing with the bat, but he is not a useless cricketer by any means.

 

If not for his innings with the bat and ball against Bangladesh, we would have big goodbye to our world cup chances a week back.

[sourab10forever]

Jadeja is a 10 run bank that Dhoni gets for free . He is sure to make a difference of about 10 runs in the field given Dhonis carefully placement. Bowling is decent in subcontinental conditions . It's high time we consider his batting as equivalent to Ashwins and don't expect much from him.

Edited April 3, 2016 by sourab10forever

[diehardpacer]

No point in blaming Jaddu & Pandya. We didn't play any 5th bowler. The replacement for Yuvi should have been a guy who can bowl.Blame the bowlers when they bowl badly on bowling pitches.Jaddu bowled better than Ashwin in this tournament overally. We lost because our batsmen couldn't bat Windies out of the match on a flat pitch.

 

[jf1gp_1]

Jaddu can bat we havent but i hardly see him bat in t20. So i looked up his stat out of 37 games only batted 17 times. Avg balls faced everytime he bats is 6+. Remove 2 of his longer innings where he batted at 4, and this falls to 4 deliveries everytime he bats, Which means its either crisis or final overs.

 

So can jadeja the batsman replace raina in current form ? OR (i know the guy didnt do much in aus) can gurkeerat be given a longer rope. 

[philcric]

3 hours ago, Viper said:

Fair enough isn't it ?

 

According to there logic they blamed Dhoni for years since selectors doesn't exist so when did jaddu come back ? RSA series and who is Captain ? Virat.. Hence there logic Its Virat's fault

 

Jadeja didn't 'come back' in RSA test series.

 

He was never dropped in home test series.

 

He was dropped from ODI/T20 teams (RSA series) and 'came back' in T20 series against SL when Dhoni was captain.

 

 

PS: it's not "there" it's "their"

 

[Number]

BJs.

 

PS : That's what the popular opinion was two years ago.

[MK55]

Not much in batting. In all these years, he only managed to make a noteworthy contribution in about 3-4 matches, once in the 2014 ODIs against NZ and a bit in England. He's the most unreliable lower order batsman that I've seen. Can't hit big, poor on the short ball on most occasions, doesn't have the temperament to take responsibility or build partnerships while chasing.  

He's useful as a fielder but that isn't enough to occupy a spot in non subcontinent or flat pitches. His spot is there to be taken on such pitches. If we can't have 2 seam bowling all rounders, I'll try out a player like Negi. 3 fast bowlers, 1 spinner and 2 decent all-rounders should be our combination overseas or on flat tracks.

In home test matches and on tracks that offer a bit for the spinners, he needs to be considered.
 

[Texan]

What Jadeja offers:

 

A very good bowling option in home Tests on square turners. Due to his stump-to-stump line, he is always a threat when the ball is turning.

An occasional good bowling performance in T20s and ODIs

 

 

What Jadeja does not offer:

 

Batting as his FC record might suggest

Lower order power hitting when the team needs quick runs

 

IMO, its time to try out some new players for ODIs, T20s everywhere and Tests outside India. And it doesn't just have to be a left arm spinner, leg-spinners will do too.

[Zero_Unit]

I have been questioning his inclusion since a long time. When he came fresh in the team, only good thing about him was his fielding. Couldn't ball or bat properly. As time went by (after 100's of matches) he got better at bowling just a tad bit but that's where it  end. He seriously does not deserve a place in the team. Hell I would put my money on Ashwin to win us games with the bat than this hack ...

[HippoSucks]

Jadeja is terrible as a lower order hitter but he is a decent batsmen in tests and ODIs. The problem with his batting in ODIs is that he isn't good enough to bat in the top order, and in the lower order we need powerful hitters.

[Laaloo]

 

Decent batsman in Tests? lol He's horrible dude

[vayuu1]

What  does jadeja offer in T20...mmmm

Let me guess

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.

 

 

 .. let me guess again 

..Ghantaa, can't bat quick to save his life, his darts won't work on batathon, looks to bowl quick every time, sorry but he should only stick to odi's and test ,we need t20 specialist bowlers, some more unorthodox spinners. 

[express bowling]

My main issue with Jadeja was when he used to bat at no.7  for a long time and take up the batting all-rounder's slot. He is a very low SR batsman for a lower-middle order power hitter's role in LOIs and is a terrible test batsman.

 

Now that he is batting at no.8...he does add value to the team as a spinner and fielder...especially in sub-continent test matches and LOIs.

 

The only question that remains is...why does he have to be an absolute certainty in our LOI team irrespective of playing conditions and pitches. Even on green pitches a swing bowler like Bhuvi cannot replace him. ( With 29 wickets from 37 matches, Jaddu is not an all-condition wicket taker in T20Is ) .  Amit Mishra, a talented leg-spinner in LOIs ,  is not even being considered in the team of 15 / 16 and  Jaddu's place, in the playing 11, is always confirmed.

 

 

 

Edited April 4, 2016 by express bowling

[express bowling]

Amit Mishra

http://www.cricbuzz.com/profiles/1454/amit-mishra

 

Bowling Career Summary

	M	Inn	B	Runs	Wkts	BBI	BBM	Econ	Avg	SR	5W	10W
ODI	31	29	1648	1297	49	48/6	48/6	4.73	26.47	33.63	1	0
T20I	7	7	156	168	11	26/3	26/3	6.46	15.27	14.18	0	0
IPL	98	98	2130	2574	111	17/5	17/5	7.25	23.19	19.19	1	0

 

 

This is how Amit  Mishra has done in LOIs and IPL.  High wickets per match in every Limited overs format  and impressive averages and economy rates too .  Yet he is rarely  in contention for LOIs.

 

Edited April 4, 2016 by express bowling

[Soorma_Bhopali]

2 hours ago, express bowling said:

Amit Mishra

http://www.cricbuzz.com/profiles/1454/amit-mishra

 

Bowling Career Summary

	M	Inn	B	Runs	Wkts	BBI	BBM	Econ	Avg	SR	5W	10W
ODI	31	29	1648	1297	49	48/6	48/6	4.73	26.47	33.63	1	0
T20I	7	7	156	168	11	26/3	26/3	6.46	15.27	14.18	0	0
IPL	98	98	2130	2574	111	17/5	17/5	7.25	23.19	19.19	1	0

 

 

This is how Amit  Mishra has done in LOIs and IPL.  High wickets per match in every Limited overs format  and impressive averages and economy rates too .  Yet he is rarely  in contention for LOIs.

 

+1 ..he was a revelation when given the chances in Asia cup couple of years ago ..and then , with one bad ODI , dropped . 

[adi B]

11 hours ago, HippoSucks said:

Jadeja is terrible as a lower order hitter but he is a decent batsmen in tests and ODIs. The problem with his batting in ODIs is that he isn't good enough to bat in the top order, and in the lower order we need powerful hitters.

Average of 18 in tests is decent?he is almost like a tailender in odis ,unreliable as always

[The Realist]