express bowling Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 24 minutes ago, Ultimate_Game said: Risky IMO. Pandya can be taken to cleaners and is not someone who can be relied to compete his quota of 10 overs. If he gets hit around we will be in trouble as we don't have options to cover for him. Maybe somebody like Kuldeep or even Krunal Pandya would've been a better option than Ashwin If we see ODIs in England nowadays....there are lots of 320+ scores. In such a scenario, a big hitting No.7 is needed and will add much more value to the team compared to Ashwin. Jadhav and UV can always bowl 3 or 4 overs. Mosher 1 Link to comment
Sooda Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 (edited) ^ I don't think Pandya is as bad with the ball as youre making out. Was decent against England in the ODIs in a high scoring series Econ of 6.2 RPO better than the rest of the pacemen. Agreed he is probably not one to give us 10 overs every match, but definitely good 4th and 5th pace option. I think Bhuvi and Bumrah should be certainties, and I would like to see Pandya for the batting depth he will bring, question mark over Shamis match fitness and whether Umesh is a better option for now, and who brings more to the team Jadeja or Ashwin... don't know why but I feel Jadeja Edited May 28, 2017 by Sooda hm Link to comment
express bowling Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 1 minute ago, Sooda said: ^ I don't think Pandya is as bad with the ball as youre making out. Was decent against England in the ODIs in a high scoring series Econ of 6.2 RPO better than the rest of the pacemen. Agreed he is probably not one to give us 10 overs every match, but definitely good 4th and 5th pace option. Pandya bowled really well in the NZ ODI series too. Link to comment
Vk1 Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 My reason is pandya is a bowler who needs assistance from pitch or else he can go for plenty. Almost same reason for umesh though he can pick critical wickets. Current pitches in eng are highways. Ashwin and jadeja can control run scoring in middle overs. Bhuvi bumrah can bowl Yorkers at death. Shami can pick wickets.. Lord 1 Link to comment
Khota Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 4 minutes ago, Ultimate_Game said: Risky IMO. Pandya can be taken to cleaners and is not someone who can be relied to compete his quota of 10 overs. If he gets hit around we will be in trouble as we don't have options to cover for him. Maybe somebody like Kuldeep or even Krunal Pandya would've been a better option than Ashwin Yes Pandya at time is iffy. May not work and it is just tough to pick right combination. Link to comment
speedheat Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 Its pretty much certain, Bhuvi Shami Bumrah Jadeja Pandya express bowling 1 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 1 minute ago, Vk1 said: My reason is pandya is a bowler who needs assistance from pitch or else he can go for plenty. Almost same reason for umesh though he can pick critical wickets. Current pitches in eng are highways. Ashwin and jadeja can control run scoring in middle overs. Bhuvi bumrah can bowl Yorkers at death. Shami can pick wickets.. What about ur batting at 7......last CT jaddu saved u ........wnt happen every time But again shows how crucial is 7th batsman Ultimate_Game 1 Link to comment
kubrickian Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 (edited) It will be Bhuvi Bumrah Pandya Ashwin Jaddu We rarely go with 1 spinner, so Ash and Jaddu will be picked. They also have lot of experience. We want the batting depth so need Pandya and Shami is coming back after long lay off and his run up is still not 100 % and looks a bit out of steam in 2nd spell perhaps because of lack of match practice. I doubt he will play first match. Bhuvi, Bumrah are guaranteed picks for sharing new ball and bowling at death. Edited May 28, 2017 by kubrickian Link to comment
Mosher Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 7 minutes ago, Lannister said: Bumrah Shami Yadav Bhuvi Jadeja (With Jadav and Yuvi as part-timers) This will be a very good bowling attack but it will result in a long tail. Only Jaddu can bat a bit among the bowlers. With lot of 320+ scores these days we need a lot of batting power to chase those down. Link to comment
Lord Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 2 minutes ago, kubrickian said: It will be Bhuvi Bumrah Pandya Ashwin Jaddu We rarely go with 1 spinner, so Ash and Jaddu will be picked. They also have lot of experience. We want the batting depth so need Pandya and Shami is coming back after long lay off and his run up is still not 100 %. I doubt he will play first match. Bhuvi, Bumrah are guaranteed picks for sharing new ball and bowling at death. no way Shami will be left out Link to comment
Khota Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 Can mod start a thread on batting also at right time. Link to comment
kubrickian Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 1 minute ago, Lord said: no way Shami will be left out He will be. No other choice. Link to comment
Vk1 Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 1 minute ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: What about ur batting at 7......last CT jaddu saved u ........wnt happen every time But again shows how crucial is 7th batsman You don't need a strong no 7 on flat pitches if your top order is good. With no swing our batters can be really good. Instead we can strengthen 5th bowler by having genuine bowler instead of all-rounder or part timers. Eng can do that with Ben Stokes and he is on his way to be a GOAT. We don't have to do it on flat pitches. Last CT to current CT..English pitches have had a paradigm shift. cowboysfan 1 Link to comment
Lord Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 3 minutes ago, express bowling said: If we see ODIs in England nowadays....there are lots of 320+ scores. In such a scenario, a big hitting No.7 is needed and will add much more value to the team compared to Ashwin. Jadhav and UV can always bowl 3 or 4 overs. On pattas,you need 5 bowlers even more,specially when there is no backup a bowler picking 1-2 with low ER will be more valuable than someone scoring 20-40 lower down but leaking runs with ball Ashwin is experienced too and has done well in ICC CT 2013 Vk1 and cowboysfan 2 Link to comment
Vk1 Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 What was shamis avg speed today? Did he swing it? Link to comment
Mosher Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 2 minutes ago, Vk1 said: What was shamis avg speed today? Did he swing it? No speed guns today. Shami's run-up was tentative but he seamed the ball both ways beautifully. Link to comment
Khota Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 Shami should be left out. Today others are ahead. Link to comment
Lannister Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 10 minutes ago, Mosher said: This will be a very good bowling attack but it will result in a long tail. Only Jaddu can bat a bit among the bowlers. With lot of 320+ scores these days we need a lot of batting power to chase those down. Call me a crazy, but somehow I have this instinct that no team will be able to cross 280 against this bowling attack. Of course, we need to use Ashwin, if there's a bit of assistance for spinners. Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Vk1 said: You don't need a strong no 7 on flat pitches if your top order is good. With no swing our batters can be really good. Instead we can strengthen 5th bowler by having genuine bowler instead of all-rounder or part timers. Eng can do that with Ben Stokes and he is on his way to be a GOAT. We don't have to do it on flat pitches. Last CT to current CT..English pitches have had a paradigm shift. Pandya is good enough 5th bowler......more then good enough as a bowler as ashwin n jaddu as odi batsman Pandya will help u with saving few runs in field Ofcourse u need 7 batsman.....any bowling on patta needs 20-30 runs of cushion thats given by hitter N World tournaments have pressure also- so any day any batting lineuo can crumble Eng weather also can change n change the condition- Last Ct ball was turning but against SL due to rain the ball started moving around Rains can also come in any time in eng and as i was writing it started drizzling Edited May 28, 2017 by Ankit_sharma03 Link to comment
maniac Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 Pandya has done nothing to deserve a spot in crucial games...right now at best he can be played in dead rubbers and bilaterals till he gets confident enough to start firing in either batting/bowling. There is a good chance he will leave us a 10 man team...good striker,can bowl 140k doesn't automatically translate to great performer beetle, Ultimate_Game and Lord 3 Link to comment
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