Nothing to get disheartened about

[zen]

Have read some emotional responses to Ind loss but folks there is nothing to be disheartened about. Remember what Klusener said when his team unexpectedly lost to Aus in SF in 1999, " so what, no one died" 

 

Just as in life, in a game, we win some, we lose some. Let's remember that team Ind has been one of the best performing teams in multi-national events winning tournaments such as:

• WC in 1983 where we stopped WI from winning the title 3 times in a row
• B&H Cup in 1985 where we beat Pak both in group stages and final
• CT in 2002, beating a SA side that looked set to beat Ind in SF
• T20 WC in 2007, beating Pak that appeared to have things covered
• WC in 2011, beating SL despite the toss situation. And SL did make some changes that helped Ind
• CT in 2013, was reduced to 20 overs iirc and Eng was in good position when chasing 

 

So we have had a fair share of pulling wins out of nowhere and beating favorites at times. Let's not forget the numerous wins in Asia Cups, Singer Cups, Natwest, etc. To go along with that Ind is and has been the #1 ranked side in tests!

 

On the other hand, we have also been on receiving end on numerous occasions including in the Australia-Asia cup in Sharjah in 1986 where Miandad hit a 6 of a full toss that was intended to be a yorker. In late 1990s-early 2000s, Ind had the developed a reputation of reaching finals but losing them, examples being 2000 CT final loss vs NZ, 2003 WC final, etc. 

 

CT is a tournament where it appears as if the winner alternate b/w favorites and underdogs / dark horses. For e.g.

• SA, a fav, won it in 1998
• NZ, a dark horse, won in 2000
• Favs SL and Ind won in 2002
• WI, a dark horse did it in 2004
• 2006, 2009 and 2013 editions went to favorites
• So 2017 was the year for the underdogs / dark horses with Pak and BD elevating their games 

 

Only Aus has gone on to win the WC after winning a CT, so our chances for winning the WC improve   .... Some of the youngsters will only come back a lot tougher 

 

 

Edited June 18, 2017 by zen

[Adi_91]

Sport brings extremes of joy and disappointments.

 

Who knows, we may well win the WC in 2019!! Sport never fails to amaze us.

[King Tendulkar]

We got to the final and played cricket reaching there. Plus second ct final reached 

 

its all good . Can win whole tournament all the time 

[King Tendulkar]

This is sport guys 

[Laaloo]

Wouldn't be disheartened if we had played shami and lost. Even our over the hill batsmen are still good enough to make more than 158. The body language was disappointing right from the start. 

[Laaloo]

1 minute ago, King Tendulkar said:

We got to the final and played cricket reaching there. Plus second ct final reached 

 

its all good . Can win whole tournament all the time 

4th

Lost against NZ in 2000

And tied against Lanka in 2002

Edited June 18, 2017 by Praggy

[zen]

1 minute ago, King Tendulkar said:

We got to the final and played cricket reaching there. Plus second ct final reached 

 

its all good . Can win whole tournament all the time 

4th - 2000 (lost to NZ), 2002 (won with SL), 2013 (won) and this (lost) so a 50/50 record in the CT finals

[Sgattick10]

Disappointed with the way we lost. Showed zero fighting ability and surrendered meekly. 

[SK_IH]

choking in crucial moments in icc events,sl in wt20 and now this ,bowling no balls is unpardonable

[King Tendulkar]

I meant second ct final in a row . So consistent period of doing well 

[beetle]

It is not the loss but the way we lost that is heart breaking.

[Gollum]

This is our worst ODI loss since I was born. 1996 SF, 2003 F, 2015 SF we never really had any chance against the rampaging eventual winners. 2007 Bangladesh we at least showed some fight. Here........

Not bringing up stupid bilaterals and Dabur Cups, they are meaningless !!!!!

[CG]

4 minutes ago, Praggy said:

Wouldn't be disheartened if we had played shami and lost. Even our over the hill batsmen are still good enough to make more than 158. The body language was disappointing right from the start. 

To be honest nothing seems to have changed from Dhoni style in odis.Kohli has to start imposing his own style.

[WeStMiDz]

This team has given us many highs in recent times. The lows make those highs even sweeter. So next time we win something cherish it that little bit more. 

[Tibarn]

I get more bothered by losses to Australia nowadays. The padosis had the luck of the Irish today, but I consider Australia as our cricketing rivals. I was much more bothered about losing the 1st Test vs Australia when they visited recently and especially the WC SF vs them. 

[Hell Raiser]

Only thing disheartening is to know that we will continue to see the same players who are over the hill/not good enough again and again and are already on the plane to West Indies.

[zen]

Looking back, when the team was announced, to me it looked like the Pak WC squad of 2003 where a lot of players were picked based on reputation .... So in that way, Ind may have over achieved too by getting in to this CT final 

[surajmal]

Manner in which India got hammered, India has given back all the bragging rights they used to have in world tournaments. Now, you neither have that or the total record. Bakis have you by the balls, until they are similarly hammered in a ICC final (which may never happen). 

 

This is the new Miandad sharjah moment. 

 

Time for Indians to grow a thick skin. 

[goose]

Some people believe football (insert cricket) is a matter of life and death, I am very disappointed with that attitude. I can assure you it is much, much more important than that.' Bill Shankly.

 

[SK_IH]

6 minutes ago, zen said:

Looking back, when the team was announced, to me it looked like the Pak WC squad of 2003 where a lot of players were picked based on reputation .... So in that way, Ind may have over achieved too by getting in to this CT final 

couldnt agree more,sf was our real ability may be ,bangles coming through helped us