Dhoni's standing in the pantheon of ODI legends/greats?

[SK_IH]

Lots of heated debate going on in the forum at the moment about Dhoni all about being padding stats and there is nothing great about his batting.Though there are some also who rate his batting quite highly like myself.So,I want to see whats the general view of point of ICF about Dhoni's status as a batsman in ODI cricket?

 

So please vote and also justify if you think he is selfish or no good?

[sscomp32]

Standing?  

Only on ICF. 

[velu]

Quote

 

sachin played for centuries 

afridi played for strike rate

dhoni played for winning the game 

 

took it from green forum 

[SK_IH]

35 minutes ago, sscomp32 said:

Standing?  

Only on ICF. 

[kira]

Let's see:-

 

Below Tendulkar, VIV, Kohli, Warne, Akram, Mcgrath, Ponting, Murali, Gilchrist

 

So, yeah he might scrap through into top 10 unless I am forgetting someone

[philcric]

Dhoni's USP and advantage is that he is a WK-Bat, bats in the middle order and has (had) great ability to be there till the end and finish games.

 

There is hardly another ODI cricketer ever who had this combination of skill set.

 

If you pick an all time ODI XI, Dhoni is almost assured to be picked as the WK-Bat. The closest rival would be Adam Gilchrist, but he was an opening batsman and there are plenty of other good (better) opening batsmen to choose from.

 

Even purely as a batsman, he is right up there esp. because of the position he bats at. There are very few great middle order ODI batsmen compared to top order batsmen.

 

My All Time ODI XI

 

1) S Tendulkar

2) S Jayasuriya

3) V Richards

4) V Kohli

5) AB DeVilliers

6) *+ MS Dhoni

7) K Dev

8) M Starc

9) S Warne

10) M Muralitharan

11) J Garner

 

#7 is contentious. I wanted a pace bowling all rounder there, neither a pure bowler nor a batting all rounder. Only Andrew Flintoff and Kapil Dev would fit my requirement. Went for Kapil Dev because of his excellent batting SR, low bowling ER, opening swing bowling and fielding.

 

Edited September 5, 2017 by philcric

[kira]

10 minutes ago, kira said:

Let's see:-

 

Below Tendulkar, VIV, Kohli, Warne, Akram, Mcgrath, Ponting, Murali, Gilchrist

 

So, yeah he might scrap through into top 10 unless I am forgetting someone

Forgot about Kapil Dev, so dhoni misses out on top 10, sorry chamchas 

[velu]

23 minutes ago, kira said:

Forgot about Kapil Dev, so dhoni misses out on top 10, sorry chamchas 

 

yeah .. wheelchair analyst ka list

 

[kira]

12 minutes ago, velu said:

 

yeah .. wheelchair analyst ka list

 

Dhoni isn't even in the top 3 players produced by India ...tch.tch.tch 

[sourab10forever]

Indian great. A pretty good one but that's it. 

Excellent keeper.

Great LOI and IPL captain. Not quite in tests

Hopeless in overseas tests. 

Past it as a finisher. 

[velu]

16 minutes ago, kira said:

Dhoni isn't even in the top 3 players produced by India ...tch.tch.tch 

maybe for the blind haterz

he is not only better than sachin , he looks better than sachin as well

 

[rkt.india]

1 hour ago, kira said:

Let's see:-

 

Below Tendulkar, VIV, Kohli, Warne, Akram, Mcgrath, Ponting, Murali, Gilchrist

 

So, yeah he might scrap through into top 10 unless I am forgetting someone

you forgot Brett Lee, Michael Bevan, Hussey.

[velu]

1 minute ago, sourab10forever said:

Indian great. A pretty good one but that's it. 

Excellent keeper.

Great LOI and IPL captain. Not quite in tests

Hopeless in overseas tests. 

Past it as a finisher. 

 

hate is obvious

 

[rkt.india]

SRT

Viv

Kohli

McGrath

Dhoni

Gilchrist

Brett Lee

Garner

Murlidharan

Warne

Bevan

Hussey

Allan Donald

Ponting

[Pollack]

An Indian ODI great. Can make into all time top

10-15 in ODIs.

 

[Pollack]

34 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

SRT

Viv

Kohli

McGrath

Dhoni

Gilchrist

Brett Lee

Garner

Murlidharan

Warne

Bevan

Hussey

Allan Donald

Ponting

Where is Pollock?

[rkt.india]

19 minutes ago, Pollack said:

Where is Pollock?

after Ponting

[Rasgulla]

1 hour ago, velu said:

 

yeah .. wheelchair analyst ka list

 

if sachin can get into that list of top 5 anyone can.. You know it's all about strike rate these days. Afridi should be on top of the list  

[rtmohanlal]

Dhoni is a certified ATG of the game. A legendary one day batsman by  being a brilliant chaser & finisher,a clutch player,great wicket keeper,good test batsman & a very good captain who has several achievements  to  his credit.All in all an ATG player.

[sandeep]

5 hours ago, kira said:

Let's see:-

 

Below Tendulkar, VIV, Kohli, Warne, Akram, Mcgrath, Ponting, Murali, Gilchrist

 

So, yeah he might scrap through into top 10 unless I am forgetting someone

If you were putting together a World all-time XI, and you could only pick one of Gilchrist or Dhoni, there's no way you pick Gilly.   There are other candidates who can play the hard-hitting opener slot at least as well as Gilly (avg 35, SR 96), but hard to find anyone who can come close to Dhoni's stats at #6.  And in terms of glove-work, Dhoni would have the edge as well.

 

Unless, you want to just hate on old grey-beard.  Then, by all means, throw logic out the window, and just post a few funny pics of him lunging.