OpeningBatsman Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 (edited) Shami has been resting for his entire career. He has only played 49 odis and 25 tests. He needs to play more matches and not rest every series, or he will end up with 90 odis and 45 test matches when he retires. Shami is our best odi bowler and should be playing series against top teams without exception. Edited September 10, 2017 by OpeningBatsman Ankit_sharma03 1 Link to comment
Rasgulla Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 22 minutes ago, Jimmy Cliff said: And what if the back-up keeper out-performs Dhoni? Can't take such a risk. Yep like he did something great in t20iby slowing everything down.. Kohli is not a fan of him anyway. His keeping skills are not even up to the mark as said by Dravid. Patel gets chosen over pant in general says a lot. So it's a risk and we got kedar and rahul if we need backup anyway. Kedar is good enough for backup keeper if Dhoni is injured. sscomp32 1 Link to comment
Wapas Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 2 hours ago, express bowling said: Just look below how long tours used to be in the '70s. They bowled and bowled at that time. The famous West Indies tour to England 1976. Tour length 4 months with 25 practice matches , 5 tests and 3 ODIs. Tour Match: Duchess of Norfolk's Invitation XI v West Indians at Arundel - May 8, 1976 Duchess of Norfolk's Invitation XI 202/7d; West Indians 205/3 Scorecard West Indians won by 7 wickets Tour Match: National Cricket Association v West Indians at The Oval - May 9, 1976 West Indians 183/7d; National Cricket Association 116/8 Scorecard Match drawn Tour Match: Surrey v West Indians at The Oval - May 12-14, 1976 Surrey 303/5d and 252; West Indians 316/5d and 97/3 Scorecard Match drawn Tour Match: Hampshire v West Indians at Southampton - May 15-17, 1976 Hampshire 152 and 131; West Indians 371/6d Scorecard West Indians won by an innings and 88 runs Tour Match: Kent v West Indians at Canterbury - May 19-21, 1976 West Indians 267/5d and 171/5d; Kent 192/4d and 94 Scorecard West Indians won by 152 runs Tour Match: Marylebone Cricket Club v West Indians at Lord's - May 22-25, 1976 West Indians 251/9d and 248/3d; Marylebone Cricket Club 197 and 83 Scorecard West Indians won by 219 runs Tour Match: Somerset v West Indians at Taunton - May 26-28, 1976 West Indians 389/8d and 261/1d; Somerset 317 and 192 Scorecard West Indians won by 141 runs Tour Match: Sussex v West Indians at Hove - May 29-Jun 1, 1976 West Indians 220 and 207/6d; Sussex 225 and 85/1 Scorecard Match drawn 1st Test: England v West Indies at Nottingham - Jun 3-8, 1976 West Indies 494 and 176/5d; England 332 and 156/2 Scorecard Photos (3) Match drawn Tour Match: Oxford and Cambridge Universities v West Indians at Cambridge - Jun 9-11, 1976 West Indians 394/6d and 104/2; Oxford and Cambridge Universities 234 and 262 (f/o) Scorecard West Indians won by 8 wickets Tour Match: Lancashire v West Indians at Manchester - Jun 12-14, 1976 Lancashire 293/8d and 230/2d; West Indians 332/5d and 193/4 Scorecard West Indians won by 6 wickets 2nd Test: England v West Indies at Lord's - Jun 17-22, 1976 England 250 and 254; West Indies 182 and 241/6 Scorecard Photos (9) Match drawn Tour Match: Northamptonshire v West Indians at Northampton - Jun 23-25, 1976 West Indians 413/3d and 16/0; Northamptonshire 172 and 256 (f/o) Scorecard West Indians won by 10 wickets Tour Match: Leicestershire v West Indians at Leicester - Jun 26-29, 1976 Leicestershire 306/3d and 281/3d; West Indians 334/8d and 257/3 Scorecard West Indians won by 7 wickets Tour Match: Yorkshire v West Indians at Sheffield - Jun 30-Jul 2, 1976 West Indians 103 and 192; Yorkshire 186 and 90 Scorecard West Indians won by 19 runs Tour Match: Derbyshire v West Indians at Chesterfield - Jul 3-6, 1976 Derbyshire 257 and 261; West Indians 497/6d and 23/0 Scorecard West Indians won by 10 wickets 3rd Test: England v West Indies at Manchester - Jul 8-13, 1976 West Indies 211 and 411/5d; England 71 and 126 Scorecard Articles (5) Photos (6) West Indies won by 425 runs Tour Match: Warwickshire v West Indians at Birmingham - Jul 17-20, 1976 West Indians 356; Warwickshire 152/8 Scorecard Match drawn 4th Test: England v West Indies at Leeds - Jul 22-27, 1976 West Indies 450 and 196; England 387 and 204 Scorecard Photos (6) West Indies won by 55 runs Tour Match: Essex v West Indians at Chelmsford - Jul 28-30, 1976 West Indians 190 and 306; Essex 294/8d and 97 Scorecard West Indians won by 105 runs Tour Match: Middlesex v West Indians at Lord's - Jul 31-Aug 3, 1976 West Indians 222 and 308; Middlesex 257 and 275/6 Scorecard Middlesex won by 4 wickets Tour Match: Minor Counties v West Indians at Torquay - Aug 4-6, 1976 Minor Counties 123 and 329; West Indians 354 and 100/3 Scorecard West Indians won by 7 wickets Tour Match: Glamorgan v West Indians at Swansea - Aug 7-10, 1976 Glamorgan 266 and 147; West Indians 554/4d Scorecard West Indians won by an innings and 141 runs Tour Match: Glamorgan v West Indians at Swansea - Aug 8, 1976 West Indians 236/6 (38/38 ov); Glamorgan 130 (33.4/38 ov) Scorecard West Indians won by 106 runs 5th Test: England v West Indies at The Oval - Aug 12-17, 1976 West Indies 687/8d and 182/0d; England 435 and 203 Scorecard Articles (6) Photos (15) West Indies won by 231 runs Tour Match: Worcestershire v West Indians at Worcester - Aug 18-20, 1976 Worcestershire 358/8d and 86; West Indians 408 and 38/2 Scorecard West Indians won by 8 wickets Tour Match: Gloucestershire v West Indians at Bristol - Aug 21-24, 1976 West Indians 349/8d and 242/7d; Gloucestershire 265/9d and 282/9 Scorecard Match drawn 1st ODI: England v West Indies at Scarborough - Aug 26, 1976 England 202/8 (55/55 ov); West Indies 207/4 (41/55 ov) Scorecard West Indies won by 6 wickets (with 84 balls remaining) 2nd ODI: England v West Indies at Lord's - Aug 28-29, 1976 West Indies 221 (47.5/50 ov); England 185 (45.3/50 ov) Scorecard West Indies won by 36 runs 3rd ODI: England v West Indies at Birmingham - Aug 30-31, 1976 West Indies 223/9 (32/32 ov); England 173 (31.4/32 ov) Scorecard West Indies won by 50 runs Tour Match: Nottinghamshire v West Indians at Nottingham - Sep 1-3, 1976 Nottinghamshire 244 and 146; West Indians 81 and 313/5 Scorecard West Indians won by 5 wickets Tour Match: TN Pearce's XI v West Indians at Scarborough - Sep 4-7, 1976 West Indians 256 and 173; TN Pearce's XI 293 and 139/8 Scorecard TN Pearce's XI won by 2 wickets Tour Match: TN Pearce's XI v West Indians at Scarborough - Sep 5, 1976 TN Pearce's XI 162/8 (40/40 ov); West Indians 164/3 (22.4/40 ov) Scorecard West Indians won by 7 wickets (with 104 balls remaining) http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/series/61881.html No wonder why Vijay Merchant scored 4000 runs in England for Indias 2 tour there first tour was 1948 were they played 29 practice matches besides 3 test next tour in England too,he scored over 2000 runs Link to comment
Wapas Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 1 hour ago, Jimmy Cliff said: And what if the back-up keeper out-performs Dhoni? Can't take such a risk. We have part timer keeper MP who has potential to play all matches Link to comment
Wapas Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 Shami too good but his fitness is always Questionable,I doubt he will includes in the 4 th game.i think Siddharth Kaul gets call than Siraj because of Favoritism policy works wonder in any Asian teams Link to comment
RAZPOR Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 They are hell bent on breaking shami and umesh and also wtf ??? when we going to get rid of this rahane I would have expected to atleast have gotten one of krunal/shankar in,but i guess selectors are just going to waste these series with passengers like rahane. Link to comment
Kerberos Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 3 hours ago, OpeningBatsman said: Shami has been resting for his entire career. He has only played 49 odis and 25 tests. He needs to play more matches and not rest every series, or he will end up with 90 odis and 45 test matches when he retires. Shami is our best odi bowler and should be playing series against top teams without exception. Shami is not a very fit player.So no point playing him more bilaterals. Let's save him for big tournaments. Ideally he should play against all top teams. But no harm in resting him even against strong teams. Link to comment
Kerberos Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 5 hours ago, express bowling said: Umesh is not a "main ODI bowler. " Look at Axar and Chahal. They impressed and " main bowler " Jadeja does not come back. Has Chahal really impressed? Rasgulla and express bowling 2 Link to comment
cowboysfan Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 team looks good but they should not have picked Shami,he is extremely fragile and i would be pissed if he misses out on the SA tests. Link to comment
Texan Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 Should have picked Pant for Rahane. Dropping Shardul after just 2 matches a bit unfair. No idea what Yadav has done to be picked. Yadav is absolutely useless in LOIs. If they didn't want Shardul, at least they should have tried some other new pacer. Would have also liked to see Krunal being accommodated by resting one of our senior players. Probably should have rested Dhawan, given Rahul a chance to open and picked Krunal for the middle order. Link to comment
Lannister Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 Stupid desicion to drop Shardul and even more stupidity to retain players like Kumar, Dhoni and Yadav. Link to comment
SK_IH Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 backing of rahane is baffling once again and continuous use of word "rested" for ashwin n jaddu is scaring me,i dread the thought of them coming back as our first choice spinners Link to comment
express bowling Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 1 hour ago, Kerberos said: Has Chahal really impressed? Not me but he has impressed the team management Link to comment
wanted_desi Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 (edited) No batsmen are being rotated around, what an irony. Edited September 10, 2017 by wanted_desi Link to comment
Texy Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 Rahane the useless has the backing of Mumbai lobby will never be dropped unlike YUVI. Link to comment
maniac Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 Rotation Policy...looks like it doesn't apply to keepers regardless of whom we play...no hate but seriously what did Dhoni gain by playing Srilanka and Westindies? I mean sure I am fine him playing against Australia or major ICC tourneys before he calls it a day but atleast he consistent without whatever fk all policies you have Link to comment
Rasgulla Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, maniac said: Rotation Policy...looks like it doesn't apply to keepers regardless of whom we play...no hate but seriously what did Dhoni gain by playing Srilanka and Westindies? I mean sure I am fine him playing against Australia or major ICC tourneys before he calls it a day but atleast he consistent without whatever fk all policies you have Rotation policy doesn't effect kohli or Dhoni. Because they are seniors and legends of the game. Why is that hard to understand Edited September 10, 2017 by Rasgulla sscomp32 1 Link to comment
Gollum Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 I don't see where we are going with Rahane? Do these clowns seriously think he will improve our chances in WC 2019 by even 0.1 %? I have said enough about Dhoni but it is clear that corporates and BCCI bigwigs have a say in his continued selection, we will just have to bear with the loser till he himself gets ashamed of losing more ICC tourneys because of his inept batting. And I wish they had cotton wrapped Shami and Umesh till the SA tour? Even if one of them is rendered unfit before that marquee series our chances will dip by 20%. I would say those 2 bring more to the test team than even Kohli, vital to keep them fresh. Glad to see Ash and Jaddu rested. Ash should get more county experience and Jaddu should spend time with his baby. Moreover I would like to see how Chahal, Axar fare against the big boys on pattas. I think both are over rated and their stats are boosted by facing minnows/weak batting units on turning/sluggish decks. By the end of the series(if we play on pattas) i think it will be clear that Jaddu, Ash and Kuldeep are still our best bets for WC 2019. Will be glad to be proved wrong though. Mosher 1 Link to comment
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