Ankit_sharma03 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 6 minutes ago, vishalvirsingh said: its the attitude what counts too..kedar was playing team game , maintaining the run rate. we could have lost today had it been a 50 over match and had hardik failed BIG or scored less runs...bhuvi wud have managed to support ..hardik bhuvi kedar won us the match and msd also played OK...but i feel MSD is now an old man... even young guys are not able to field well ..see yadav, kedar msd is keeping well but his batting skills specially hitting skills are down. india has 30 international quality batsman..dhoni does not come in first 10, his batting talent was his HITTING Prowess and his aeroplane shot which is now extinct. Throwing wkts after getting set is never smart and again why are these guys even put to compare to dhoni he at his fading game , baaki sab ko kya hua Baaki sab ka game kya dhoni ke fading game se bhi bura hai India has 30 international batsman How many stood up in NZ series when kohli and dhoni scored What happened to all of them against Akila where dhoni n bhuvi stood up Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 11 minutes ago, vishalvirsingh said: i liked robin uthappa and shreyas iyer but both these guys always wanna go for becoming HERO and hence gave away his wickets.. Uthappa always blew his chances Link to comment
velu Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 11 minutes ago, Laaloo said: Thank you i downvoted you 3/4 times that too for revenge only Link to comment
Laaloo Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 6 minutes ago, velu said: i downvoted you 3/4 times that too for revenge only Hey the dhoni fans have been downvoting me a lot recently so I'm kind of used to it. Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 Kinda obvious. At this point Rahane has very limited use as a ODI batsman. He can't score like 150. He can't come up with big overs. He can't keep up with the run rate for long periods. He is a good batsman. So is Pujara. But PUjara doesn't even get a look in. Rahane is only slightly a better stroke player than Pujara. But he is not a match winner on his own unless we chase a total like 200. vishalvirsingh 1 Link to comment
Muloghonto Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 6 hours ago, vishalvirsingh said: rahane and Dhoni - both shud now be dropped. Dhoni was lucky that got a weak bowler in faulkner and he could hit him and improve his strike rate other wise his strike rate today was Pathetic.... do u guys know we have 2 very good wicket keeper bats in ishan kishan and the other keeper ideally suited for ODI's. we need to groom them for future. these 2 guys are genuinely fantastic Batting talents. they can be groomed just fine in domestic cricket, until they have 2-3 years of domestic experience. Keeping isn't easy on your back. these kids are 18-19, they still have 2-3 years before they can be tried in international cricket. Link to comment
Texan Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 The comparison is not right. Dhoni is a keeper as well. Even their normal batting positions are different. Dhoni has been doing ok in ODIs so we should persist with him for now. He should still not play T20s. Rahane should not be playing any LOIs. There are better options available. Link to comment
Lannister Posted September 18, 2017 Author Share Posted September 18, 2017 16 hours ago, velu said: dhoni for the sake of burnol and tissue sales Like the time when Goenka booted him out of the captaincy. Must be a lot of profit to medical stores near to your place. Link to comment
velu Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 5 minutes ago, Lannister said: Like the time when Goenka booted him out of the captaincy. Must be a lot of profit to medical stores near to your place. out of stock because of the stocking done by the haterz for years .. probably burnol needs to open another manufacturing facility Rasgulla 1 Link to comment
Lannister Posted September 18, 2017 Author Share Posted September 18, 2017 2 hours ago, Texan said: The comparison is not right. Dhoni is a keeper as well. Even their normal batting positions are different. Dhoni has been doing ok in ODIs so we should persist with him for now. He should still not play T20s. Rahane should not be playing any LOIs. There are better options available. Rahane was almost similar in strike rates when he was batting at 4 and he's a very good fielder too. Link to comment
vishalvirsingh Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 8 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: Throwing wkts after getting set is never smart and again why are these guys even put to compare to dhoni he at his fading game , baaki sab ko kya hua Baaki sab ka game kya dhoni ke fading game se bhi bura hai India has 30 international batsman How many stood up in NZ series when kohli and dhoni scored What happened to all of them against Akila where dhoni n bhuvi stood up Bro... Other players are not sure of their places see rahane he played a reckless shot bcos he wanted to score fast as opener...there is a prolific opener Rahul benched for him so he had to go behind glory. Same for others only Kohli and hardik are sure of their places. Kedar is kinda two failures away from being dropped. Dhoni Kohli hardik Rohit and bumrah are sure of their places..nobody else. I open batting so I know..when your captain pressurises you to score from first over itself..before facing the first ball your bat is half up ready to hit. Dhoni is not pressurised by Kohli or shastri..he plays his own selfish game..and he never had any technique ..he had power game and now his power game aeroplane shot is History. Other players need to settle down n then see how they perform. Many times I got out bcos my team got me ruffled and play outrageous shots and that happens. Dhoni is being backed too much by Kohli..if dhoni goes away Kohli will ask Manish or kedar to drop anchor n relax n play. Did u see the batting of ishan kishan and left handy keeper batsman from Delhi ..I m missing his name..both these batsman are exception erstwhile dhoni type of exceptional talent..they need to be backed. Not a single player more than 35 should play for India as eye sight and physical fitness goes down ..only determination to play goes up..I m 44 and I open batting..I got new spectacles last week first time in my life..but when I bat I won't use spectacles so my batting will suffer. I mean stamina eye sight goes down which are must for batting.. dhoni batting is no more the same that got us to like him..he shud hang his boots. Link to comment
vishalvirsingh Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 In ipl dhoni was found out..goenka took right call n made Steve Smith captain. Goenka is smarter than our selectors. Even the great Tendulkar was asked to retire..no one retires by his own wish. Kapil dev took hardly any wickets in his last 3 years and was a 125k trundler in his last three years..had srinath played ahead of him he would have got many wickets. Understand only the best can play for India. Link to comment
vishalvirsingh Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 See this series..Falkner is a joke of all rounder and he will be replaced by Richardson ..then Australian attack will look stronger.. Let's see if dhoni scores at good rate ..dhoni was playing very slow and he got few shots against Faulkner else his strike rate would be pathetic. Link to comment
Lannister Posted September 18, 2017 Author Share Posted September 18, 2017 2 hours ago, vvvslaxman said: Kinda obvious. At this point Rahane has very limited use as a ODI batsman. He can't score like 150. He can't come up with big overs. He can't keep up with the run rate for long periods. He is a good batsman. So is Pujara. But PUjara doesn't even get a look in. Rahane is only slightly a better stroke player than Pujara. But he is not a match winner on his own unless we chase a total like 200. The problem is Dhoni is not a match winner either. If it wasn't for Pandya's superior batting skills, we would be 40-50 runs short. Even Bhuvi was striking at a much better rate. Link to comment
speedheat Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 Both should be sacked!! Mosher, Laaloo and velu 1 2 Link to comment
speedheat Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 Best captaaan!! LORD_analyst and express bowling 2 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, vishalvirsingh said: Bro... Other players are not sure of their places see rahane he played a reckless shot bcos he wanted to score fast as opener...there is a prolific opener Rahul benched for him so he had to go behind glory. Same for others only Kohli and hardik are sure of their places. Kedar is kinda two failures away from being dropped. Dhoni Kohli hardik Rohit and bumrah are sure of their places..nobody else. I open batting so I know..when your captain pressurises you to score from first over itself..before facing the first ball your bat is half up ready to hit. Dhoni is not pressurised by Kohli or shastri..he plays his own selfish game..and he never had any technique ..he had power game and now his power game aeroplane shot is History. Other players need to settle down n then see how they perform. Many times I got out bcos my team got me ruffled and play outrageous shots and that happens. Dhoni is being backed too much by Kohli..if dhoni goes away Kohli will ask Manish or kedar to drop anchor n relax n play. Did u see the batting of ishan kishan and left handy keeper batsman from Delhi ..I m missing his name..both these batsman are exception erstwhile dhoni type of exceptional talent..they need to be backed. Not a single player more than 35 should play for India as eye sight and physical fitness goes down ..only determination to play goes up..I m 44 and I open batting..I got new spectacles last week first time in my life..but when I bat I won't use spectacles so my batting will suffer. I mean stamina eye sight goes down which are must for batting.. dhoni batting is no more the same that got us to like him..he shud hang his boots. Why wud these players have permanent place, have they earned it Do u think bumrah came in with permanent spot...... No he earned it Rahane is poor Odi player, why wnt be under threat and thats more reason he shudnt throw his wkt I dnt knw were u open batting but thats doesnt matter what happens in ur gully cricket or state cricket. Let rahane achieve of what dhoni has then ask for same comfort zone, Rahane despite being such a failure in LOI still gets huge backing shudnt cry about that Why wont Kohli n shastri back such a top ODi player and he is producing result may not be with same effectiveness but he is contributing in everyway Lefty hander form delhi - his name is PAnt (pant didnt help his case by having a avg tour in SA, m all up for backing them but not by dropping dhoni . HE avg 89 this yr he cant be touched ) Not a single player more than 35 should play for India as eye sight and physical fitness goes down - till what age tendulkar played and dhoni has better fitness Please dont compare urself to Any internatinal cricketer or anybody who has played international cricket forget comparisons to a legend Edited September 18, 2017 by Ankit_sharma03 velu 1 Link to comment
velu Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 3 hours ago, speedheat said: Both should be sacked!! hi dude .. MSD Rasgulla 1 Link to comment
Vijy Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Seems like a rather pointless question. They are not like-for-like cricketers. Link to comment
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