Shubman Gill or P. Shaw --- who is better?

[Vijy]

5 minutes ago, gazza said:

Anmolpreet singh not doing too bad either

yes, he's a bit older but has done very well this season.

[gattaca]

Samson, unmukt, Vijay zol. All these were supposed to make it big. All are failures. Leave the kids alone. Succession from u19 to senior team is tough.

Edited November 27, 2017 by gattaca

[rkt.india]

4 hours ago, gattaca said:

Samson, unmukt, Vijay zol. All these were supposed to make it big. All are failures. Leave the kids alone. Succession from u19 to senior team is tough.

how are they failures? they are all young. Not every player will debut at 19-20. Samson has just turned 23 and is scorning runs in domestic cricket. He has not gotten much chances at international level so how he is a failure. we can only call him a failure once he gets his chances. Same with Vijay Zol. Zol was never great in FC or U19 level anyway.

Edited November 28, 2017 by rkt.india

[SK_IH]

4 hours ago, gattaca said:

Samson, unmukt, Vijay zol. All these were supposed to make it big. All are failures. Leave the kids alone. Succession from u19 to senior team is tough.

samson and unmukt atleast looked class above the rest during their times as u19 players but zol lol,people were going gaga over him in 2012-14.i saw him in the u19 wc 2014, he looked the worst batsman of that lot 

 

 

[SK_IH]

8 minutes ago, khiladi786 said:

Unadkat debut in SOA 100 for 0 

yes that was one of many dhoni's brainfades in test cricket

[rkt.india]

10 minutes ago, SK_IH said:

yes that was one of many dhoni's brainfades in test cricket

played ahead of Yadav who did not get a game in that series.

[gattaca]

19 hours ago, rkt.india said:

how are they failures? they are all young. Not every player will debut at 19-20. Samson has just turned 23 and is scorning runs in domestic cricket. He has not gotten much chances at international level so how he is a failure. we can only call him a failure once he gets his chances. Same with Vijay Zol. Zol was never great in FC or U19 level anyway.

Samson played close to 50 matches. The hype he had at that time you would expect him to good  in first class atleast. He wasn't considered for duleep trophy this year. So a failure he couldn't live to his hype yet. He may have time but these are not good signs.

[rkt.india]

3 hours ago, gattaca said:

Samson played close to 50 matches. The hype he had at that time you would expect him to good  in first class atleast. He wasn't considered for duleep trophy this year. So a failure he couldn't live to his hype yet. He may have time but these are not good signs.

Has he retired? You are terming him failure. Hype doesn't mean much. Dhawan was our best u19 performer ever. There was a lot of hype about him. It took him a decade to establish himself in the team. His FC record was never great.

[Vijy]

On 11/27/2017 at 6:03 PM, gattaca said:

Samson, unmukt, Vijay zol. All these were supposed to make it big. All are failures. Leave the kids alone. Succession from u19 to senior team is tough.

the difference is that the likes of Unmukt and Zol never established themselves in FC, and Samson played in his initial yrs in a weak team (and was perhaps picked too young). He has done well this season. In contrast, the likes of Shaw, Gill, Anmolpreet and Pant-gasm have at least done well in domestics, although that's not a guarantee for int'l success.

[Vk1]

Shubman gill _/\_ 

Granted that this is under 19 but the effortless way with which he is playing. This guy's timing reminds me of Yuvraj Singh. 

[King Tendulkar]

The both mind blowing 

 

this could be like whose better Sachin or kohli . But both will Be playing for india at same time . Wow

 

[veer]

We badly need some left handers... anyone?

[WeStMiDz]

Remember how good Unmukt Chand looked at u-19 level? We must hype with caution. 

[King Tendulkar]

Gill looks good 

 

but imo not close to shaw . Shaw technically looks ready to play for india all ready . Shaw just looks like god produced him to just bat , reminds me of someone else 

[joe777z]

Shaw and gill has got good future ahead. Gill looks the real deal

[gattaca]

6 hours ago, King Tendulkar said:

Gill looks good 

 

but imo not close to shaw . Shaw technically looks ready to play for india all ready . Shaw just looks like god produced him to just bat , reminds me of someone else 

Psst.. The last good Mumbai batsman debuted some 30 years ago. So Mumbai is always the talent hype.

[jf1gp_1]

8 hours ago, WeStMiDz said:

Remember how good Unmukt Chand looked at u-19 level? We must hype with caution. 

yes but unlike unmukt shaw has done well in whatever ranji he has played plus such a grounded boy

[Pollack]

On 27/11/2017 at 7:02 PM, Sandeep99 said:

I have a good feeling about Gill. Should be fast tracked. Shaw can be an accumulator but Gill will be your match winner. I'm going by the generic template of Mumbai vs Delhi cricketers. 

Shaw is far from an accumulator. May turn out to be a negative for him tbh.

[Pollack]

10 hours ago, WeStMiDz said:

Remember how good Unmukt Chand looked at u-19 level? We must hype with caution. 

Cannot speak for others but at no point (seriously not even once) Unmukt Chand looked quality or even decent batsman to me. He looked plain mediocre.

[King Tendulkar]

2 hours ago, gattaca said:

Psst.. The last good Mumbai batsman debuted some 30 years ago. So Mumbai is always the talent hype.

Dude cut this Mumbai this nonsense . Irrelevant 

 

look at the amzing batting . Watch him . Sensation . Run machine as well .

kids made for batting . If this kid is not the real deal I will never post on icf again . Never seen such batting at this age since ......