maniac Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 You don’t need to keep your ego aside to coach the u-19 team or a bunch of rookies for the A team. Also for all those saying that this is some supreme sacrifice that requires him to be away from family all the time, Trivia- Where is the National Cricket Academy located in India ? ps: This doesn’t make Rahul a bad or selfish person. Why not he has earned the full right to get the best low pressure job with high level income while enjoying retirement and staying away from all the crap that comes with coaching the senior team or even an IPL team. He has absolutely earned it and couldn’t happen to a nicer guy ..wouldn’t we all love such a job with the perfect monetary benefit + work life balance? However, I have issues with people terming this as some kind of a supreme sacrifice. That is an insult in the face of all those coaches who wake up at 5:30 AM to go to the ground to train youngsters and mould the future Sachin’s and Dravids and then go and check in to their day job at the railways etc to put food on their families table. These guys do it only because they are passionate about the game....some of them I know even do it for free or take fees in arrears to coach the right talent.Now thatbis passion and selflessness. This is insult to the coaches who have coached the women’s team over the years and today brought us to a level where we are right up there with the rest of the world so much so that now even BCCI has been forced to take steps to improve the structure and facilities for women’s cricket. kudos to them. The U-19 infrastructure and even domestic facilities in India have been solid and probably the best in the world for over 2 decades now. So not sure why we are getting so worked up about Dravid coaching the u-19 team and A teams. Before some folk who don’t have the basic comprehension bring Sachin just for the heck of it without understanding the post, Me and a lot of Sachin hardcore fans or Bhakts as we call it have absolutely shredded him for his Rajya Sabha fiasco be it on this forum or social media. This is the equivalent of people calling Angelina Jolie’s breast removal as brave where she got a diagnosis that 99% of the population couldn’t afford...bold move sure...great act of bravery not. Dravid has done a great job and deserves credit for that but let us not go over the top. Rant over. MechEng, Gollum and Laaloo 1 2 Link to comment
MechEng Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 38 minutes ago, maniac said: You don’t need to keep your ego aside to coach the u-19 team or a bunch of rookies for the A team. Also for all those saying that this is some supreme sacrifice that requires him to be away from family all the time, Trivia- Where is the National Cricket Academy located in India ? ps: This doesn’t make Rahul a bad or selfish person. Why not he has earned the full right to get the best low pressure job with high level income while enjoying retirement and staying away from all the crap that comes with coaching the senior team or even an IPL team. He has absolutely earned it and couldn’t happen to a nicer guy ..wouldn’t we all love such a job with the perfect monetary benefit + work life balance? However, I have issues with people terming this as some kind of a supreme sacrifice. That is an insult in the face of all those coaches who wake up at 5:30 AM to go to the ground to train youngsters and mould the future Sachin’s and Dravids and then go and check in to their day job at the railways etc to put food on their families table. These guys do it only because they are passionate about the game....some of them I know even do it for free or take fees in arrears to coach the right talent.Now thatbis passion and selflessness. This is insult to the coaches who have coached the women’s team over the years and today brought us to a level where we are right up there with the rest of the world so much so that now even BCCI has been forced to take steps to improve the structure and facilities for women’s cricket. kudos to them. The U-19 infrastructure and even domestic facilities in India have been solid and probably the best in the world for over 2 decades now. So not sure why we are getting so worked up about Dravid coaching the u-19 team and A teams. Before some folk who don’t have the basic comprehension bring Sachin just for the heck of it without understanding the post, Me and a lot of Sachin hardcore fans or Bhakts as we call it have absolutely shredded him for his Rajya Sabha fiasco be it on this forum or social media. This is the equivalent of people calling Angelina Jolie’s breast removal as brave where she got a diagnosis that 99% of the population couldn’t afford...bold move sure...great act of bravery not. Dravid has done a great job and deserves credit for that but let us not go over the top. Rant over. In India we expect great sportsmen to be cocky, arrogant and behave like gods. If they behave like normal human beings, they are elevated to great selfless saints. Like I remember a pic where Dravid was standing in a queue for something and the whole social media went crazy on what a great human being he is. In that case all Australian cricketers are great human beings too since they mingle with regular Australians on day to day basis. I've heard from my relatives there in Aus about cricketers, they have seen Ricky Ponting sitting on a bench besides a lake having fish and chips or Bill Lawry in a supermarket. maniac, Laaloo, Pollack and 2 others 5 Link to comment
sourab10forever Posted February 2, 2018 Author Share Posted February 2, 2018 13 hours ago, Vilander said: Added that for you, very true statement. Dravid is such a gentleman for doing this. Rajya Sabha MP? Tendulkar has hardly stepped into the parliament a couple of time. That's one thing I hate about him. He has Disrespected the parliament. beetle and Rasgulla 2 Link to comment
sourab10forever Posted February 2, 2018 Author Share Posted February 2, 2018 Even the patient Dravid won't be patient enough to read the long posts by maniac beetle, Rasgulla and Cricketics 3 Link to comment
Shunya Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 Massive respect Dravid Done and still doing a lot for Indian Cricket As usual chamchas cannot stand any other Indian cricketer getting their deserving praise. beetle and Rasgulla 2 Link to comment
Pollack Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 4 hours ago, MechEng said: In India we expect great sportsmen to be cocky, arrogant and behave like gods. If they behave like normal human beings, they are elevated to great selfless saints. Like I remember a pic where Dravid was standing in a queue for something and the whole social media went crazy on what a great human being he is. In that case all Australian cricketers are great human beings too since they mingle with regular Australians on day to day basis. I've heard from my relatives there in Aus about cricketers, they have seen Ricky Ponting sitting on a bench besides a lake having fish and chips or Bill Lawry in a supermarket. Good post. Also younger generation (not older ones) go crazy over arrogant and OTT animated characters too if they are very successful. Either way Indian people in general are "perennially worshippers" always in search of human gods. It's one thing to take inspiration from your human god but completely cringeworthy if you worship him, defend him for his wrongdoings or simply live in naive world where your god does nothing wrong. beetle and MechEng 2 Link to comment
MechEng Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 47 minutes ago, Pollack said: Good post. Also younger generation (not older ones) go crazy over arrogant and OTT animated characters too if they are very successful. Either way Indian people in general are "perennially worshippers" always in search of human gods. It's one thing to take inspiration from your human god but completely cringeworthy if you worship him, defend him for his wrongdoings or simply live in naive world where your god does nothing wrong. Have you witnessed younger generation (post 2000 born) showing interest in cricket? In Mumbai it's all Premier League football, cricket craze is confined to the working class section there. Rasgulla 1 Link to comment
King Tendulkar Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 Love Dravid . Great player and doing good job as coach but let’s not pretend he made shaw, Gill and co ! beetle, maniac and Dada's Army 1 2 Link to comment
Straight Drive Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 If we go on to win this U19 ODI Cup, he deserves more credit for the coaching aspects as well. beetle and Rasgulla 2 Link to comment
Pollack Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 17 minutes ago, Straight Drive said: If we go on to win this U19 ODI Cup, he deserves more credit for the coaching aspects as well. He is already getting OTT credit regardless of the fact that India has had in past and will keep doing great in u19 WC in future with or without dravid. Link to comment
King Tendulkar Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 I can assure you if shastri was under 19 coach or prasad was under 19 coach we would have cruised to final as well but icf would have slaughtered then still lol perceptions Peshust and maniac 2 Link to comment
gattaca Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 15 minutes ago, King Tendulkar said: I can assure you if shastri was under 19 coach or prasad was under 19 coach we would have cruised to final as well but icf would have slaughtered then still lol perceptions But Shastri would select players for incorrect format says “go smash them” and yells at press if they don’t well. The Dark Horse and beetle 1 1 Link to comment
King Tendulkar Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 1 minute ago, gattaca said: But Shastri would select players for incorrect format says “go smash them” and yells at press if they don’t well. There you go lol mob arrives lol Link to comment
gattaca Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 Just now, King Tendulkar said: There you go lol mob arrives lol What mob ? Shastri is freeloader he has no plans. Just a captain chamcha. The Hound, beetle and Rasgulla 2 1 Link to comment
The Dark Horse Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, King Tendulkar said: There you go lol mob arrives lol But the mob can't do anything to the dark knight of Indian cricket. Because he's the hero India deserves, but not the one it needs right now. The Hound and Rasgulla 2 Link to comment
Dada's Army Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 21 hours ago, King Tendulkar said: Love Dravid . Great player and doing good job as coach but let’s not pretend he made shaw, Gill and co ! This! or nagarkoti, or Mavi, or Porel... Credit for that goes into these boys' own local coaches, other long term BCCI coaches, and families for pushing them all those years. Dravid has had an important influence but this OTT idol worship of stars has to end. happened for Dhoni too. Ganguly before that. It's nonsense. King Tendulkar and zaqw222222 2 Link to comment
King Tendulkar Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 3 minutes ago, gattaca said: What mob ? Shastri is freeloader he has no plans. Just a captain chamcha. Yes gets on well with skipper . Skipper leads and coach more just fine tunes what you want him to take on kohli like Kumble did . His do you think that will end up for shastri and India team ? Shastri spot on in his approach . It’s working very well , hard for mob to get over this Link to comment
King Tendulkar Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, Dada's Army said: This! or nagarkoti, or Mavi, or Porel... Credit for that goes into these boys' own local coaches, other long term BCCI coaches, and families for pushing them all those years. Dravid has had an important influence but this OTT idol worship of stars has to end. happened for Dhoni too. Ganguly before that. It's nonsense. Some are made heroes others villains no one explores grey areas lol Link to comment
Cricketics Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 Dravid won’t have helped guys like Nagarkoti increase their pace and stuff surely, but he did help guys like Manjot who put their head down today and played a different game than he usually does and anchored the innings once Gill and Shaw got out ina crucial world cup final. During every man of the match, Indian guys talked about how Dravid reminded them to play ground shots which helped them score runs. Manjot switched his game today and realised the need to keep it down once we lost two wickets. Also same with Desai. You can say whatever you want but Dravid talking to youngsters will only help them and it did happen in this workd cup too. Perfect guy for any kid to talk to about their game or even life. Legend, The Wall. beetle 1 Link to comment
Cricketics Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 American writer on cricinfo puts it perfectly just now ” Peter Della Penna @PeterDellaPenna “Rahul Dravid cracks me up. Speaks during interview about how embarrassed he is sometimes as coach of India U-19 because too much attention is put on him because of his stature rather than the players and support staff. Class act. World cricket needs more of him.” beetle, The Dark Horse, speedheat and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment
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