Might be tempted to play kuldeep, chahal in tests too: Virat

[Ankit_sharma03]

3 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

IN T20s and ODIs, pitches are flat. So, most bowlers get wickets batsmen going after them. That wont be the case in tests at home where he will get turning tracks.  Overseas, even Ashwin has not done anything great.

Ashwin needs more chances as of now, he did decent in Sa...hadnt it been for dropped catches his figures wud have looked diff

Lets not forget in most test batsman didnt give runs on board to ashwin overseas, dhoni wasnt even a good captain to have overseas in test to 

As Ganguly once said, kumble always said give me 500-600 runs on board ill wind u games. Even heard in a recent interview from sanga saying same for murali.

Ashwin got 300 runs most times, so he deserves that time. Also ashwin offers with bat n experience on field which chahal wudnt

Pujara hasnt done gr8 in overseas yet we persist with him

[Temujin Khaghan]

Jadeja's mindset in test cricket is good. He bowls a boring length and uses the wrong un as a surprise. Whereas Ashwin scares the captain by trying too many things when things don't go his way.

 

Jadeja is no.2 in test ratings for a reason. He has the discipline for test cricket though lacks the ability of Ashwin or Kuldeep.

[vishalvirsingh]

On 7/13/2018 at 1:08 PM, Gollum said:

No Chahal please, Kohli's love for him is worrying...seems to prefer him over Kuldeep who is in a different league. 

Exactly correct...kuldeep is a Mystery china man and Chahal is a Straight leg spinner ..

ONE Spinner is a BIG Headache for opponents and the other guy is just a regular Spin challenge...

 

Huge Difference...

[sensible-indian]

Not sure if you guys are following this but Ashwin's new delivery is a killer.

 

It's a carrom ball bowled with an offspinner's action. He did pick up a wicket using that in the Afghanistan test.

 

I think being out of the team and a lacklustre IPL has knocked sense into him as far as LOI bowling is concerned.

 

He has gone back to the old action using as much body into his delivery as he can. Needs to be out of the LOI team for a while longer and perform his way back into the side. With this new delivery that aligns with his core action, he has a chance to become the 3rd spinner for India in LOIs sometime in the future. Got a good start in TNPL picking up 5 wickets in 2 games. Needs to focus on accuracy and practice flighting more in LOI.

 

I think his carroms will confuse English bats this summer.

Edited July 14, 2018 by sensible-indian

[Mosher]

17 minutes ago, sensible-indian said:

It's a carrom ball bowled with an offspinner's action. He did pick up a wicket using that in the Afghanistan test.

Whose wicket was that?

 

https://www.hotstar.com/sports/cricket/afghanistans-tour-of-india-2018/185950/match-clips/india-hand-afghans-record-thrashing/2001614884

 

 

[sensible-indian]

4 minutes ago, Mosher said:

Whose wicket was that?

 

https://www.hotstar.com/sports/cricket/afghanistans-tour-of-india-2018/185950/match-clips/india-hand-afghans-record-thrashing/2001614884

 

 

Check at 8.38

 

Interestingly cricinfo commentary missed it but cricbuzz picked it up.

 

For more wickets, check TNPL replays. All his 5 wickets (right handers) were from carrom I think.

[Mosher]

11 minutes ago, sensible-indian said:

Check at 8.38

 

Interestingly cricinfo commentary missed it but cricbuzz picked it up.

 

For more wickets, check TNPL replays. All his 5 wickets (right handers) were from carrom I think.

Need a front on view of that wicket. Will be interesting to see where his palm is facing when he delivers that ball. Any links to those TNPL wickets?

Edited July 14, 2018 by Mosher

[Jimmy Cliff]

24 minutes ago, sensible-indian said:

Not sure if you guys are following this but Ashwin's new delivery is a killer.

 

It's a carrom ball bowled with an offspinner's action. He did pick up a wicket using that in the Afghanistan test.

 

I think being out of the team and a lacklustre IPL has knocked sense into him as far as LOI bowling is concerned.

 

He has gone back to the old action using as much body into his delivery as he can. Needs to be out of the LOI team for a while longer and perform his way back into the side. With this new delivery that aligns with his core action, he has a chance to become the 3rd spinner for India in LOIs sometime in the future. Got a good start in TNPL picking up 5 wickets in 2 games. Needs to focus on accuracy and practice flighting more in LOI.

 

I think his carroms will confuse English bats this summer.

Woh sab toh theek hai but does he have a decent stock ball that pitches outside off and hits off and middle? His leg stump line against the RHBs in SA was terrible to watch.

[sensible-indian]

3 minutes ago, Jimmy Cliff said:

Woh sab toh theek hai but does he have a decent stock ball that pitches outside off and hits off and middle? His leg stump line against the RHBs in SA was terrible to watch.

Yes. Seemed to bowl like a proper offie last test.

 

Time will tell what he does in England.

[sensible-indian]

9 minutes ago, Mosher said:

Need a front on view of that wicket. Will be interesting to see where his palm is facing when he delivers that ball. Any links to those TNPL wickets?

Dont think we hav a front view replay yet. 

 

Check hotstar for tnpl highlights.

[express bowling]

4 hours ago, sensible-indian said:

 

My ideal choice is 5 bowlers with both Ash and Jaddu for first 2 tests. Then you take a call based on performance. If Kuldeep is unplayable in warm ups, then pick your best 2 spinners. 

 

 

If the 5th bowler is Hardik then it won't be possible to play 2 spinners in test matches in England.  The pitches are expected to be  more pacer-friendly and 3 front-line fast bowlers will definitely be needed.

 

If we play 5 specialist bowlers ...  and the pitch is expected to aid spinners in the later stages and 2 spinners are chosen ...  then I would pick Kuldeep Yadav as one of the spinners, because most batters are unable to read him.  

[rkt.india]

6 hours ago, sensible-indian said:

So much disrespect to Jaddu. He has outperformed Ashwin in the last 1.5 years. Performed on super flat tracks.

 

Ideally we should make all 3 spinners play warm ups and picked based on performance.

 

He did that at home, not in England. Even Ashwin will be useless here in tests. Pitches will be completely different in Tests. 

 

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My ideal choice is 5 bowlers with both Ash and Jaddu for first 2 tests. Then you take a call based on performance. If Kuldeep is unplayable in warm ups, then pick your best 2 spinners. 

 

 

Rain is coming.

[rkt.india]

1 hour ago, express bowling said:

 

If the 5th bowler is Hardik then it won't be possible to play 2 spinners in test matches in England.  The pitches are expected to be  more pacer-friendly and 3 front-line fast bowlers will definitely be needed.

 

If we play 5 specialist bowlers ...  and the pitch is expected to aid spinners in the later stages and 2 spinners are chosen ...  then I would pick Kuldeep Yadav as one of the spinners, because most batters are unable to read him.  

we can play Ashwin and Kuldeep with 3 specialist pacers with Pandya sitting out because Pandya cannot be third seamer.  Ashwin will have to take responsibility as batsman and Play Karthik as a keeper who is a better bat.

[Trichromatic]

Ashwin, Bhuvi, and Karthik can be no 6, 7 and 8 (not in particular order).

 

Bumrah, Shami and kuldeep remaining 3

[express bowling]

4 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

we can play Ashwin and Kuldeep with 3 specialist pacers with Pandya sitting out because Pandya cannot be third seamer.  Ashwin will have to take responsibility as batsman and Play Karthik as a keeper who is a better bat.

 

I would like that option after seeing how Kuldeep has improved as a bowler.

 

[express bowling]

2 minutes ago, Trichromatic said:

Ashwin, Bhuvi, and Karthik can be no 6, 7 and 8 (not in particular order)

 

1) Vijay

2) Rahul

3) Pujara

4) Kohli

5) Rahane

6) Pant or Karthick  (  Saha injured )

7) Ashwin

8) Bhuvi

9) Kuldeep

10) Shami

11) Bumrah 

 

Looks good to me.

[R.D forever]

Terribly unfair to Ashwin if chahal is picked. FFS at least try him first overseas. He was much better in SA this time and has county experience too. Can't believe some ppl simply say that he is bad overseas based on his record 5 yrs ago and that too with Dhoni as captain ..

 

 

[MCcricket]

A captain has to be crazy not to include Kuldeep in the test side, he is a wrist spinner so can turn the ball on most decks , plus he is a Chinaman bowler which is rare, he has skills, range and is mentally strong, I would choose him first in the team as a bowler, Ashwin to me is valuable in tests, he has been bowling well since SA, he bats very well and has the stats to show.

Jadeja is a regular kinda bowler who doesn't turn much but is accurate and if the wkt ain't helping him he is not as effective, Personally for balance sake I would love to have K Yadav, Bumrah, Pandya,Bhuvi Ashwin if we play Pandya as an all rounder, Ashwin is as good and BK can bat..