Whether KL Rahul is the next Rohit Sharma ?

[express bowling]

1 hour ago, rtmohanlal said:

 

what ever it be, 32.5 avg:   is not adequate enough to be absolutely brilliant in 1 country.If he avged: at least 45,  that would have been at the least ok.Now that he has failed miserably  in SAF, he has no other brilliant performance in any of SENA.That means he is not calibre enough to  compliment to a strong batting unit.

 

Looking at batting average in a debut test series in Australia, is a rather juvenile way of judging new talent.  Kohli looked like a fish out of water on his debut test series in the WI, which was a far easier tour and Kohli was playing international bowlers in ODIs for long.

 

The jump from domestic cricket to senior level international cricket is so huge, especially on a tough away series ... anyone who scored a hundred in 2 tests shows that he has it in him to succeed in SENA countries.

 

His SA 2018 tour , where he played 2 tests, was a failure. But then again, apart from Kohli and ABDV, everyone disappointed.

 

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Take SRT,Dravid,Ganguly,Laxman,Sehwag.. They formed a very  strong batting unit.Why???SRT was brilliant every where.Dravid in

AUS,ENG,NZL,WI . Sehwag in AUS,WI  .  Ganguly & Laxman  were too ,considering they batted at 5 & 6 . That is what is called complimenting each other in a strong batting unit. By this yardstick Rahul has not proven himself as of now in a single country in any of SENA. Leave aside lower level WI.

 

England was easy till 2001.  WI was a tougher challenge. Apart from SRT, how many batters had high averages in SAWN countries on their first tours   ?

[rtmohanlal]

1 hour ago, raki05 said:

It seems your needle is fixed on Rahul , where as other than Kohli everyone is dud in this lineup. Rahul atleast is comparatively new also he hasn't got chance consistently. Look man when people see potential it's natural we will talk about i tnow whether he will fulfill his potential is debatable but he should get appropriate enough chance first. BTW what is your view on Vijay, Dhawan, Pujara and Rahane. And please don't say Sena. He just played one series in Aus and another in SA ( where everyone failed from both the sides)

No, not being partial towards others.Take Rahane, he  has  been absolutely brilliant in 3 out of 4 in SENA .So he is definitely a component along with Kohli.His only problem is at home where a lot others including several all rounders can easily make up for his short comings.

Similarly Vijay has been brilliant in Aus & ENG.(him being an opener makes his avg:s even more remarkable).He too makes the pack.Pujara needs to be kicked out of the team ASAP.Dhawan too is not upto the mark.  

[rtmohanlal]

48 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

Looking at batting average in a debut test series in Australia, is a rather juvenile way of judging new talent.  Kohli looked like a fish out of water on his debut test series in the WI, which was a far easier tour and Kohli was playing international bowlers in ODIs for long.

 

The jump from domestic cricket to senior level international cricket is so huge, especially on a tough away series ... anyone who scored a hundred in 2 tests shows that he has it in him to succeed in SENA countries.

 

His SA 2018 tour , where he played 2 tests, was a failure. But then again, apart from Kohli and ABDV, everyone disappointed.

 

 

England was easy till 2001.  WI was a tougher challenge. Apart from SRT, how many batters had high averages in SAWN countries on their first tours   ?

That's why I says that Rahul deserves his chances in the on going tour.If he proves to be a failure here too, he needs to be dropped

[raki05]

7 minutes ago, rtmohanlal said:

No, not being partial towards others.Take Rahane, he  has  been absolutely brilliant in 3 out of 4 in SENA .So he is definitely a component along with Kohli.His only problem is at home where a lot others including several all rounders can easily make up for his short comings.

Similarly Vijay has been brilliant in Aus & ENG.(him being an opener makes his avg:s even more remarkable).He too makes the pack.Pujara needs to be kicked out of the team ASAP.Dhawan too is not upto the mark.  

Rahane and Vijay has just one successful outing also it was not their first outing on those countries. Rahul has only played in aus and sa. So compare Vijay and Rahane in current season they did zilch also Rahul has given MOS performance against one of toughest opponent during our home series against AUS. If it was not for his 5-6 50s on one of the toughest opponent we would have been in deep deep trouble. other than this he has 2 successful overseas performance AUS ( considering it was his first debut series) and WI , where as he just failed in SA and eng it was just his first inning. Tell me how it is a failure in SENA country where he din't ever played in NZ and Eng it was just his first inning. You already announced him failure in SENA, which i feel is an overreaction. You talk about VVS, RD and Ganguly. VVS was not successful during his first overseas tournament i still remember he was like on and off during his earlier time where he shown great performance in domestic and failed at international cricket even in home series.  Similarly have you seen RD performance in SA, SL and AUS( if not for one series where Mgra and Warne was unavailable) his record is not very eye catching. Also comparing legends with a new comer is really unfair only Kohli is somewhat comparable to them. Rahul is young and he is bound to see failure at the same time i agree he should exploit the chances given to him otherwise he can easily loss in to oblivion with this current management.

[raki05]

17 minutes ago, rtmohanlal said:

That's why I says that Rahul deserves his chances in the on going tour.If he proves to be a failure here too, he needs to be dropped

Not just Rahul all of them who is failing. Why just Rahul. Vijay/Dhawan/ Pujara( if he gets chance and fail) and Rahane who is known superstar for overseas tour. You see if you drop like this other than kohli every one is dropable. I think best time to judge to everyone after completion of atleast 3 test matches especially for Rahul who is younger than all of them.

[GautiMaan]

Can he do a better job than DK behind the stumps,he keeps looking at Dk when he misses one

[PBN]

perfect opportunity for Rahul to make a name for himself and cement his spot

[jf1gp_1]

Talent 2.0 again overshadows kohli

[asterix]

Surely he’ll make way for Puji...

Bye Bye Raul...

You won’t be missed...

[jf1gp_1]

3 minutes ago, asterix said:

Surely he’ll make way for Puji...

Bye Bye Raul...

You won’t be missed...

You like kohli and ravi are jealous of gis success

[Gollum]

2 minutes ago, asterix said:

Surely he’ll make way for Puji...

Bye Bye Raul...

You won’t be missed...

Send Rahul opening and drop Vijay then, youngsters will only gain from experience. Also need to drop Dhawan and push in Shaw...I am going against my principled stand but I am sick of these 2 openers.

[sarcastic]

2 minutes ago, Gollum said:

Send Rahul opening and drop Vijay then, youngsters will only gain from experience. Also need to drop Dhawan and push in Shaw...I am going against my principled stand but I am sick of these 2 openers.

I know you rate Vijay as a test batsman n opener very very highly.... few failures and you are showing him the door... What happened, Mr. @Gollum?

[jf1gp_1]

Our test batsman need to learn from dhoni. They need to bat in test like he does in t20.

Edited August 3, 2018 by jf1gp_1

[express bowling]

Looking at Rahul and other Indian batsmen bat in England ...  it is very clear that only Kohli has given some extra thought and prepared specially for this 5 test match series in England.

 

Rahul does not seem that interested in this series ... looks very casual ... and that is what is very disappointing.

[CG]

Looking at Rahul and other Indian batsmen bat in England ...  it is very clear that only Kohli has given some extra thought and prepared specially for this 5 test match series in England.
 
Rahul does not seem that interested in this series ... looks very casual ... and that is what is very disappointing.

I have always said Rahul is too loose outside off .Sure he is a good stroke player.But he has to tighten up Also he has to improve his backfoot play.

[sourab10forever]

It's always Hot or cold with him...

No half measures

[Gollum]

11 minutes ago, sarcastic said:

I know you rate Vijay as a test batsman n opener very very highly.... few failures and you are showing him the door... What happened, Mr. @Gollum?

I have always rated our test specialists very highly and given them full backing even against popular opinion on this forum. But age is not on Vijay's  side and he has declined very sharply. This is not an isolated failure, he has failed on difficult pitches for quite some time now and frequently gets injured. High time we replace him with a youngster. Even if Vijay makes amends in the coming tests my point stands, time has come to push in youngsters lest we endure a poor transition period. And we have some really promising players in A team....we can not let stagnation happen in the test team like it has happened in our white ball teams. Either some of these oldies go out in disgrace or after redemption, hope it is the latter but next test series I don't want to see them. We have the World Test Championship after next year's WC and can't carry some of our current players. 

Edited August 3, 2018 by Gollum

[express bowling]

5 minutes ago, CG said:

7 minutes ago, express bowling said:

Looking at Rahul and other Indian batsmen bat in England ...  it is very clear that only Kohli has given some extra thought and prepared specially for this 5 test match series in England.
 
Rahul does not seem that interested in this series ... looks very casual ... and that is what is very disappointing.

I have always said Rahul is too loose outside off .Sure he is a good stroke player.But he has to tighten up Also he has to improve his backfoot play.

 

Rahul has to improve his hunger for big success as an international batsman.  All the rest will follow.

[kira]

7 minutes ago, CG said:

9 minutes ago, express bowling said:

Looking at Rahul and other Indian batsmen bat in England ...  it is very clear that only Kohli has given some extra thought and prepared specially for this 5 test match series in England.
 
Rahul does not seem that interested in this series ... looks very casual ... and that is what is very disappointing.

I have always said Rahul is too loose outside off .Sure he is a good stroke player.But he has to tighten up Also he has to improve his backfoot play.

His problem is the ball coming in

[express bowling]

1 minute ago, Gollum said:

I have always rated our test specialists very highly and given them full backing even against popular opinion on this forum. But age is not on Vijay's  side . 

 

Vijay is just 34 ...  many batsmen have the best times of their careers at this age. Combining experience with sufficient physical abilities ( as Vijay is not a hand-eye coordination batsman )