So how many who said Asia cup is meaningless, is enjoying this snoozefest?

[Clarke]

Why compare anything and everything ? 

 

Both were opportunities to unearth new talent. We should have had upcoming batsmen instead of deadweights in middle order in Asia cup, at least Kedar grew into the part time bowler role and got a glimpse of Khaleel. 

 

Good to see Shaw & Pant use the opportunity here & Kuldeep continue developing into an all format bowler.

[beetle]

On 10/6/2018 at 4:52 PM, speedheat said:

Odi is the best format out of 3 actually!! And this year Asia cup was thoroughly entertaining.

I find ODIs most boring .

Test match between two good teams  is great.

Or else...it should be t 20.

Odis are atleast 20 overs too long.

 

[speedheat]

1 hour ago, beetle said:

I find ODIs most boring .

Test match between two good teams  is great.

Or else...it should be t 20.

Odis are atleast 20 overs too long.

 

Your choice,  Yeah Odis gets bit boring in the middle overs, 20 overs in the middle when spinners take control but any time is better than 5 days of cricket.

Odis between two good sides will always trump a test match coz it produces result within a day and we don't have to wait for 5 long days with lunch tea break in the middle

T20is are good when you bring bowlers in the picture otherwise its just boring 20 overs of batting shootout.

Edited October 7, 2018 by speedheat

[Singh bling]

4 hours ago, Nikhil_cric said:

Just because something gets more viewership of sells more or is more popular does not make it more meaningful imo. 

More viewership means more people investing time and emotions.so what is more important , caring about emotions of handful of test cricket fanatics or caring about emotions of large fan base

[express bowling]

2 hours ago, beetle said:

I find ODIs most boring .

Test match between two good teams  is great.

Or else...it should be t 20.

Odis are atleast 20 overs too long.

 

 

Unless a bowler has a few overs on the trot to set up a batsman ...  and the batsman has to fight against such an attempt ... quality cricketers don't come to the fore. We get only the sloggers and the variation bowlers whose only skill is to thwart such slogging attempts.

 

20 or 30 over matches or ultra flat pitches don't allow bowlers to set up batsmen and up the quality of cricket.

 

The quality of ODI cricket has been hampered in the last 5 to 7 years by making the pitches too flat and loading everything in favour of the batsman.

 

If we get a fight between bat and ball and quality batters and bowlers ...  ODIs can be enthralling.

 

 

[Lannister]

Pointless series. There is no buildup or context to the series and the opposition is very poor. The fans could use some break from Cricket before Australian tour. 

[express bowling]

40 minutes ago, Singh bling said:

More viewership means more people investing time and emotions.so what is more important , caring about emotions of handful of test cricket fanatics or caring about emotions of large fan base

 

All 3 format can survive side by side.  Loaded international calendars and specific needs of formats mean a larger pool of players getting chances and hence ...  more people believing that they can play for their country.

 

LOI specialists have rarely become superstars.  90% of the stars, who the public want to watch play, are  top test players too.

 

This is because unless a player develops his game playing FC cricket and test cricket ...  he does not have the basics to sustain a long and high quality career.

 

The Paul Valthatys and Yusuf Pathans and Tymal Mills have not survived.

 

Test cricket and FC cricket are the factories producing quality cricketers while T20 cricket are the glamourous showrooms. 

[express bowling]

10 minutes ago, Lannister said:

Pointless series. There is no buildup or context to the series and the opposition is very poor. The fans could use some break from Cricket before Australian tour. 

 

These kinds of series should be used for grooming young talent.   

 

We have done that with Shaw, Pant and Kuldeep.  

 

Should have tried Siraj, Saini and Mayank too.

 

The series would have full meaning then.

[Franco Vazquez]

Something needs to be done with teams like WI and Zimbabwe. They get a lot of money yet they dont seem to improve. Invest that money on Nepal, Scotland, HK instead

[Suhaan]

12 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

Unless a bowler has a few overs on the trot to set up a batsman ...  and the batsman has to fight against such an attempt ... quality cricketers don't come to the fore. We get only the sloggers and the variation bowlers whose only skill is to thwart such slogging attempts.

 

20 or 30 over matches or ultra flat pitches don't allow bowlers to set up batsmen and up the quality of cricket.

 

The quality of ODI cricket has been hampered in the last 5 to 7 years by making the pitches too flat and loading everything in favour of the batsman.

 

If we get a fight between bat and ball and quality batters and bowlers ...  ODIs can be enthralling.

 

 

But world  over,these short term plans have fetched the boards some amount of money,in shape of so many t20 leagues

15-20 years ago we used to witness intriguing contest between bat and ball ,it did attract people and captured their interest,but one of the reason is we had quite a number of triangular and quadrangular series back in those days

The 15 over field restriction was a balanced thought,

Continuing with the same ball gave the bowlers opportunity to reverse it in the last 15

They have almost killed the goose which was giving them golden eggs ,these short termed plans to optimize their profits has hindered the expansion of the game 

The money generated is not reaching the smaller nations and they have fallen back drastically,or don't have financial backing to improve their facilities or nurture the upcoming generation

For eg back in those days we had a strong Zimbabwean team,a Pakistan team,Kenya too punched above their weights

Srilanka were world beaters then,Aussies were invincible,Windies were still mighty

Frequent multi nation tournaments with those rules made the odis worth paying attention and exciting

Where are kenya,Canada (John Davison's brave onslaught), Zimbabwe etc?

The 2019 wc format is clearly demoting any chance of revival of cricket in these countries..

Sad days for a true cricket fan

[express bowling]

5 minutes ago, Suhaan said:

But world  over,these short term plans have fetched the boards some amount of money,in shape of so many t20 leagues

15-20 years ago we used to witness intriguing contest between bat and ball ,it did attract people and captured their interest,but one of the reason is we had quite a number of triangular and quadrangular series back in those days

The 15 over field restriction was a balanced thought,

Continuing with the same ball gave the bowlers opportunity to reverse it in the last 15

They have almost killed the goose which was giving them golden eggs ,these short termed plans to optimize their profits has hindered the expansion of the game 

The money generated is not reaching the smaller nations and they have fallen back drastically,or don't have financial backing to improve their facilities or nurture the upcoming generation

For eg back in those days we had a strong Zimbabwean team,a Pakistan team,Kenya too punched above their weights

Srilanka were world beaters then,Aussies were invincible,Windies were still mighty

Frequent multi nation tournaments with those rules made the odis worth paying attention and exciting

Where are kenya,Canada (John Davison's brave onslaught), Zimbabwe etc?

The 2019 wc format is clearly demoting any chance of revival of cricket in these countries..

Sad days for a true cricket fan

 

Let T20 leagues exist and generate money.  I have no issues with it.

 

But ODIs should be like it was between 1995 to 2010.  

 

Let T20 leagues flourish.  

 

But ODIs and tests should follow the formats when they were most popular.  Major overhauling are not required.

 

Holding quite a few Multi nation ODI tournaments is the best way to expand cricket and strengthen weaker teams.  

[Suhaan]

Yes Im not against t20 leagues it can be used to expan the game for its fast nature

It gives players the financial security 

Many uncapped talents have a grand stage to showcase their talent,so the spotlight is on them,which improves their performance,

I was making a point to make the odis more interesting,there is no better way to bring in bowlers more into the game who have vanished for the sake of quick money

In the longer run i dont see it helping icc one bit

We need a strong Windies, Zimbabwe,Pakistan(more to do with playing away from their home crowd),Srilanka,Kenya who have regressed a lot since the game tilted more towards batsmen

[Moochad]

I only watched the first day, Shaw getting a century was worth the time, !

 

Can't speak for the rest of the match 

[Mariyam]

I find cricket in general quite boring. Test cricket more so. I don't find myself having the patience for an ODI game anymore either.

IPL however is a fun thing to watch.

 

Having said that, match threads/ post match threads on ICF are definitely a lot more enjoyable than the game itself. 

[speedheat]

I actually Reluctantly tuned in to watch shaw bat and was surprised and happy by his coolness, calmness and positive approach on debut, enjoyed his batting hundred was written on his face that day, was also fortunate enough to see express spell of Shannon Gabriel, soon after that some joker trundler called shemron lewis got to bowl and it was damn hell boring to watch it.. Considering how easy it was to shaw and company.

[Lannister]

1 hour ago, express bowling said:

 

These kinds of series should be used for grooming young talent.   

 

We have done that with Shaw, Pant and Kuldeep.  

 

Should have tried Siraj, Saini and Mayank too.

 

The series would have full meaning then.

The pitch was extremely spin friendly. There was no challenge from the opposition fast bowlers and there was nothing for them to extract from the pitch. 

[Straight Drive]

Asia cup was much needed series to give some moments to celebrate series win. Won't mind even a Cycle Agarbatti series. The defeated team needs series in familiar conditions.