rkt.india Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 24 minutes ago, putrevus said: Who said that, Garner was not doing any reverse swing but with his height and pace his yorkers were deadly.You need pace for yorker. Height plus pace always works for yorker. you are talking about 1970-80s when most batsmen were on backfoot with no helmets and protection, fearing bouncers, etc. They could care less about yorkers. You cannot compare amateur era of 70s-80s to now. Even the best batsmen used to have stance like tailenders back then. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 7 minutes ago, Pollack said: Your point was Yorker without reverse is not wicket taking, isn't it? Not whether it's used surprisingly or not. And i still have the same stand. Yorker is a defensive option in modern LOI cricket. yes, you can get wicket but it is not a primary wicket taking option. You can get wickets even with fulltosses and half trackers in LOIs that does not make them wicket taking options. There is a reason bowlers now bowl yorkers wide outside off stump these days, that is to avoid getting hit, not to take wickets. Link to comment
putrevus Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 15 minutes ago, rkt.india said: Not really and no he wont get wickets 10 out of 10. Batsmen mostly get out to yorker when it is bowled as surprise delivery. if every ball is yorker, batsmen will be ready with low backlift to dug it out. Why will any bowler bowl every ball yorker, it is sheer stupidity. Link to comment
putrevus Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 9 minutes ago, rkt.india said: you are talking about 1970-80s when most batsmen were on backfoot with no helmets and protection, fearing bouncers, etc. They could care less about yorkers. You cannot compare amateur era of 70s-80s to now. Even the best batsmen used to have stance like tailenders back then. Who said Helmets were not there in mid 1980s.You think Garner would be carted around these days and he will become useless.Garner with his bounce and height would be the best T20 bowler even today. Link to comment
maniac Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, rkt.india said: you are talking about 1970-80s when most batsmen were on backfoot with no helmets and protection, fearing bouncers, etc. They could care less about yorkers. You cannot compare amateur era of 70s-80s to now. Even the best batsmen used to have stance like tailenders back then. 70-80s were not amateur era. You are saying Viv Richards and Sunil Gavaskar were amateurs? Edited February 7, 2019 by maniac Link to comment
Cricketics Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 Yorker and Short stuff both have to be surprise. You can't over do, unless you are trying to bowl to a lower order or tailender bat who is looking to survive or waiting for the lights to be called for the day. Eventually you will get tired of bowling yorkers without yielding any result. Keep it surprise. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 10 hours ago, maniac said: 70-80s were not amateur era. You are saying Viv Richards and Sunil Gavaskar were amateurs? yes. that was an amateur era of cricket. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 (edited) Jab Bhu-Kha chalega to har koi jalega Edited February 8, 2019 by rkt.india MCcricket and Switchblade 2 Link to comment
SK_IH Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 22 minutes ago, rkt.india said: yes. that was an amateur era of cricket. Switchblade 1 Link to comment
SK_IH Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 11 hours ago, rkt.india said: yorker is not a wicket taking option until there is reverse swing. It is defensive option to avoid getting hit in LOIs. classic rkt.india Pollack and Clarke 1 1 Link to comment
Tendulkar1996 Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 Bhu-Kha answers ICF haters. Link to comment
Cricketics Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 14 hours ago, rkt.india said: yorker is not a wicket taking option until there is reverse swing. It is defensive option to avoid getting hit in LOIs. What you talking about. Its also attacking tactic. Every bowler doesn’t bowl Yorkers as a defensive tactic. Players want to take wickets and bowl yorker. Clarke 1 Link to comment
Clarke Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 Been a while since both our bowlers mixed it up with a bunch of yorkers. Good show. Khaleel bowled around 140 on the few deliveries I saw, been reading here that he's bowling 120s. Improved performance I guess ? Link to comment
Cricketics Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Clarke said: Been a while since both our bowlers mixed it up with a bunch of yorkers. Good show. Khaleel bowled around 140 on the few deliveries I saw, been reading here that he's bowling 120s. Improved performance I guess ? Surely bowled well today, he mixed it up today too, but did not overdo. I enjoyed his death bowling in particular. Bhuvi gave few bad balls but overall a good owrformance by our seamers. I think if pitch is not turning then Kuldeep is better option than Chahal. Chahal regularly struggles on such wickets. Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 Bhu-Kha comes back with vengence Link to comment
rkt.india Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 12 hours ago, SK_IH said: classic rkt.india Ask any cricket expert or former fast bowler or batsman, they all will have same views. There is a reason bowlers practice bowling good length more than Yorkers. Yorkers are just a death bowling skill to not get hit. Yes it can get you wickets as well but it is not a primary wicket taking option. Wicket taking option is still bowling length and seam or swing, get lbw, clean bowled through the gate, caught behind. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 12 hours ago, SK_IH said: Do you think they were professional cricketers? Professional cricketer scoring 36 in 60 overs in a WC game. Kerry packer was professional cricket. Otherwise international cricket was game of amateurs like England recalling 45 year old Brian close from retirement to face Holding. Is this even possible in today's cricket? No, only in amateur era it could happen. I didn't say cricketers were not good but lacked professionalism and overall quality was low. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 12 hours ago, rkt.india said: Jab Bhu-Kha chalega to har koi jalega Aaj Bhu-Kha Chala, Sara New Zealand Jala. Link to comment
Straight Drive Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 (edited) 23 hours ago, putrevus said: Who said Helmets were not there in mid 1980s.You think Garner would be carted around these days and he will become useless.Garner with his bounce and height would be the best T20 bowler even today. Skull caps and helmet were there in 70's and helmets in 80's. I personally had one. During those times we used to get without grills helmets. Then we started getting grill helmet options. Kashmir willow bats were most common. A lot of damn lies are spread here. Edited February 8, 2019 by Straight Drive Pollack and zen 2 Link to comment
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