Kohli's thought process

[cricketfan28]

21 minutes ago, Vilander said:

Why the * is icf so *ing negative ?? Wrist slitters

Looks like they wanted youngsters to replace everybody .

[Real McCoy]

12 hours ago, Vilander said:

Why the * is icf so *ing negative ?? Wrist slitters

Im not one of those wristslitters but I lost interest in cricket after the SF loss. Its not Kohli's batting ability that fans are questioning. Its his captaincy and big match performance that is under question. He missed a good delivery but he should have atleast covered the line and played with soft hands as most top order bats do. I don't see Williamson or Smith playing the shot he did driving through midwicket and playing around the line.

 

Deep down he thinks he should have played it straighter too because its a good ball but its not an unplayable ball. Kohli has been dismissed for 1 in both the knockouts he played. If he doesn't win the next WC, his legacy will be tainted as the guy who scores in JAMODIs and fails in knockouts esp the WCs. His claim to be the greatest ODI player ever will also take a hit. His 40 something ODI centuries will be taken with a grain of salt.

 

He is strictly following his idol Sachin to the tee. Sachin also had problems in knockouts. Maybe he should give away the captaincy like Sachin and just play as a batsman. There is one thing that makes this worse though. Kohli is adamant like Sachin but unlike Sachin, he doesn't have the sense that captaincy is not for him.

 

Also I don't understand why Bhuvi was preferred over Shami since Shami destroyed NZ in NZ earlier this year. He sent Karthik and Pandya ahead of Dhoni. One could say Pant was sent out by Shastri or Rohit but he was in the dressing room at 2 down. He made the decision to send Karthik at 5. That is a stupid decision as Karthik and Rahul are bottlers who dominate league stages and practice matches but when the going gets tough, they bottle. Dhoni is not a technical player but he is not a choker. He somehow hangs on with his lunges and ugly technique. He would have played a lot of dots though.

 

If he doesn't back Dhoni to play in pressure situations, he should have made the decision way before the tournament to drop him or ask selectors to tell Dhoni to retire or get dropped. Kohli is a big enough player to make such decisions as we saw Kumble getting sacked for useless bewda. Dhoni himself did it to Sehwag, Zaheer, and Gambhir when they were past it. I don't think many in ICF would have missed Dhoni this WC. Sorry @velu

 

PS - Kohli's words are also unreliable. From his words, everytime he praises someone the joke on ICF is that the player in question may end up getting sacked and ignored. Rayudu was touted as the ideal no.4 if Kohli's words were taken seriously. Rayudu didn't even make it to the squad. Rayudu along with Shankar, Karthik, Jadhav were given false promises and there was no team core created.

Edited August 11, 2019 by Real McCoy

[jf1gp_1]

So i disagree with everyone. I cant see how a competitive person like Kohli would be satisfied with SF appearance. Am sure SF loss hurts him multi fold times more than it does any fan. For us switch off tv and carry on with our lives for Kohli cricket is life. You want to call him a poor captain or planner, fine but i personally would never question his intent or motivation.

[SK_IH]

Ganguly build a team, Dhoni won trophies. What is the legacy of the Rat so far? The King of meaningless runs and stats.

Sometimes actions belie the statements one gives in the media. Virat pointed out the disappointment he had post the world cup exit and there is no doubt he must have been shattered.

However the attitude is still the same, hackneyed methods of preferring experience and utter confusion in team selection. 

[Real McCoy]

15 minutes ago, SK_IH said:

Ganguly build a team, Dhoni won trophies. What is the legacy of the Rat so far? The King of meaningless runs and stats.

Sometimes actions belie the statements one gives in the media. Virat pointed out the disappointment he had post the world cup exit and there is no doubt he must have been shattered.

However the attitude is still the same, hackneyed methods of preferring experience and utter confusion in team selection. 

He needs to give up captaincy for his batting. Its good for his batting and the team and his own mental health. He has grey tufts in his beard already. If he continues being captain, he will look like Dhoni next WC

Edited August 11, 2019 by Real McCoy

[Cricwala]

Its not about wrist slitting, or being negative. This was supposed to be THE time for Indian cricket. The foundation built in 2000s by core group of Ganguly-Dravid-Tendulkar-Laxman-Kumble, further strengthened by Sehwag-Bhajji-Zak-Gambhir-Dhoni(till 2011WC) should have seen us dominating world cricket by now. We have everything - Talent pool, resources, fan following... coupled with the disarray or transition phase most other strong teams (AUS, SA, Pak, SL) are going through, should have meant India dominating at top for atleast 5 years. Yet we have plataued off, we are pretty much where we were 10 years back, good but not the clear leader among mere 10 cricketing nations. India is a LARGE growing country, people's expectations are increasing, we demand better from a team which is pretty much our national sport, and we should.

 

Kohli is not cut out to be a captain, he is a piss-poor man manager, and BCCI, Supreme Court & Selectors are equally to blame for this mess.

[New guy]

On 8/9/2019 at 2:12 AM, cricketfan28 said:

I think he is alright.

Why doesn't someone ban this obvious troll?

[New guy]

4 hours ago, Real McCoy said:

Im not one of those wristslitters but I lost interest in cricket after the SF loss. Its not Kohli's batting ability that fans are questioning. Its his captaincy and big match performance that is under question. He missed a good delivery but he should have atleast covered the line and played with soft hands as most top order bats do. I don't see Williamson or Smith playing the shot he did driving through midwicket and playing around the line.

 

Deep down he thinks he should have played it straighter too because its a good ball but its not an unplayable ball. Kohli has been dismissed for 1 in both the knockouts he played. If he doesn't win the next WC, his legacy will be tainted as the guy who scores in JAMODIs and fails in knockouts esp the WCs. His claim to be the greatest ODI player ever will also take a hit. His 40 something ODI centuries will be taken with a grain of salt.

 

He is strictly following his idol Sachin to the tee. Sachin also had problems in knockouts. Maybe he should give away the captaincy like Sachin and just play as a batsman. There is one thing that makes this worse though. Kohli is adamant like Sachin but unlike Sachin, he doesn't have the sense that captaincy is not for him.

 

Also I don't understand why Bhuvi was preferred over Shami since Shami destroyed NZ in NZ earlier this year. He sent Karthik and Pandya ahead of Dhoni. One could say Pant was sent out by Shastri or Rohit but he was in the dressing room at 2 down. He made the decision to send Karthik at 5. That is a stupid decision as Karthik and Rahul are bottlers who dominate league stages and practice matches but when the going gets tough, they bottle. Dhoni is not a technical player but he is not a choker. He somehow hangs on with his lunges and ugly technique. He would have played a lot of dots though.

 

If he doesn't back Dhoni to play in pressure situations, he should have made the decision way before the tournament to drop him or ask selectors to tell Dhoni to retire or get dropped. Kohli is a big enough player to make such decisions as we saw Kumble getting sacked for useless bewda. Dhoni himself did it to Sehwag, Zaheer, and Gambhir when they were past it. I don't think many in ICF would have missed Dhoni this WC. Sorry @velu

 

PS - Kohli's words are also unreliable. From his words, everytime he praises someone the joke on ICF is that the player in question may end up getting sacked and ignored. Rayudu was touted as the ideal no.4 if Kohli's words were taken seriously. Rayudu didn't even make it to the squad. Rayudu along with Shankar, Karthik, Jadhav were given false promises and there was no team core created.

Sachin had one of the better records in knockouts Troll

 

See your problem is even when  you make good points and good posts you cannot let go of your trolling mentality. That is why not a single  person takes you seriously. Otherwise you did have good points in your post but you trolling spoils the entire thing

[BERGKAMP]

He only has 2 thoughts - 

 

1) Is this good for my brand? (e.g. Kedar Jadhav)

 

2) Is this bad for my brand? (e.g. Shubman Gill)

 

Then he acts accordingly, Indian cricket has to fit around the threats and opportunities for Brand Kohli

 

[Vilander]

4 hours ago, Real McCoy said:

Im not one of those wristslitters but I lost interest in cricket after the SF loss. Its not Kohli's batting ability that fans are questioning. Its his captaincy and big match performance that is under question. He missed a good delivery but he should have atleast covered the line and played with soft hands as most top order bats do. I don't see Williamson or Smith playing the shot he did driving through midwicket and playing around the line.

 

Deep down he thinks he should have played it straighter too because its a good ball but its not an unplayable ball. Kohli has been dismissed for 1 in both the knockouts he played. If he doesn't win the next WC, his legacy will be tainted as the guy who scores in JAMODIs and fails in knockouts esp the WCs. His claim to be the greatest ODI player ever will also take a hit. His 40 something ODI centuries will be taken with a grain of salt.

 

He is strictly following his idol Sachin to the tee. Sachin also had problems in knockouts. Maybe he should give away the captaincy like Sachin and just play as a batsman. There is one thing that makes this worse though. Kohli is adamant like Sachin but unlike Sachin, he doesn't have the sense that captaincy is not for him.

 

Also I don't understand why Bhuvi was preferred over Shami since Shami destroyed NZ in NZ earlier this year. He sent Karthik and Pandya ahead of Dhoni. One could say Pant was sent out by Shastri or Rohit but he was in the dressing room at 2 down. He made the decision to send Karthik at 5. That is a stupid decision as Karthik and Rahul are bottlers who dominate league stages and practice matches but when the going gets tough, they bottle. Dhoni is not a technical player but he is not a choker. He somehow hangs on with his lunges and ugly technique. He would have played a lot of dots though.

 

If he doesn't back Dhoni to play in pressure situations, he should have made the decision way before the tournament to drop him or ask selectors to tell Dhoni to retire or get dropped. Kohli is a big enough player to make such decisions as we saw Kumble getting sacked for useless bewda. Dhoni himself did it to Sehwag, Zaheer, and Gambhir when they were past it. I don't think many in ICF would have missed Dhoni this WC. Sorry @velu

 

PS - Kohli's words are also unreliable. From his words, everytime he praises someone the joke on ICF is that the player in question may end up getting sacked and ignored. Rayudu was touted as the ideal no.4 if Kohli's words were taken seriously. Rayudu didn't even make it to the squad. Rayudu along with Shankar, Karthik, Jadhav were given false promises and there was no team core created.

All good points. Esp shami for bhuv. But these decisions are not an exact science they come off at times and at times they dont and NZ were also a good side in those conditions.

[Vilander]

1 hour ago, Cricwala said:

BCCI, Supreme Court & Selectors are equally to blame for this mess.

This.

[Vilander]

17 minutes ago, New guy said:

Sachin had one of the better records in knockouts Troll

 

See your problem is even when  you make good points and good posts you cannot let go of your trolling mentality. That is why not a single  person takes you seriously. Otherwise you did have good points in your post but you trolling spoils the entire thing

Opinions that differ on yours are not trolling automatically.

[Real McCoy]

35 minutes ago, New guy said:

Sachin had one of the better records in knockouts Troll

 

See your problem is even when  you make good points and good posts you cannot let go of your trolling mentality. That is why not a single  person takes you seriously. Otherwise you did have good points in your post but you trolling spoils the entire thing

 

@velu I spotted one. Their crying is music to my ears. Must be for you as well

[Real McCoy]

30 minutes ago, Vilander said:

All good points. Esp shami for bhuv. But these decisions are not an exact science they come off at times and at times they dont and NZ were also a good side in those conditions.

Disagree with you on Bhuvi. He was picked for the WC based on English conditions but he wasn't able to pick wickets throughout the tournament. That match was ideally suited for an aggressive wicket taking bowler like Shami who performed well against NZ. I agree its not an exact science but that is why there is a team management. And Kohli picked drunkards as team coaches. It was entirely Kohli's doing when he threw a tantrum against Kumble in 2017. There was no difference in the run rate for the first 20 overs in the SF against NZ. There was a difference in the wickets lost by the two teams and that is what put the pressure on India.

Edited August 11, 2019 by Real McCoy

[New guy]

44 minutes ago, Vilander said:

Opinions that differ on yours are not trolling automatically.

But the knockout stats are available for everyone to see so how is it an opinion? Its blatant lies.

 

So you really are not aware how cheap trolls like this guy has polluted this forum? You really are not aware or his post history? Or is it because these trolls trill pro CSK that you support them 

 

And now you are ignoring his follow up post in this very thread where he admits to this?

 

Btw whenever you wonder why csk and dhoni gets so much hatred always remember this.CSK fans always support cheap trolls and dont cally them out

[cricketfan28]

6 hours ago, New guy said:

Why doesn't someone ban this obvious troll?

 I might not be as knowledgeable as the rest of the people here so my opinion might differ, but I am not trolling. cheers.

 

[Vilander]

8 hours ago, New guy said:

But the knockout stats are available for everyone to see so how is it an opinion? Its blatant lies.

 

So you really are not aware how cheap trolls like this guy has polluted this forum? You really are not aware or his post history? Or is it because these trolls trill pro CSK that you support them 

 

And now you are ignoring his follow up post in this very thread where he admits to this?

 

Btw whenever you wonder why csk and dhoni gets so much hatred always remember this.CSK fans always support cheap trolls and dont cally them out

Dude you need to cool down

[Vilander]

9 hours ago, Real McCoy said:

Disagree with you on Bhuvi

Disagree on what I am saying he should have not have been picked ahead of Shami. But all I am saying is there are more than one decision maker and they don't come off all the time.  

[rtmohanlal]

He even lacks ability to think. Then where is the thought process?? He does not have a long term vision.If he had, then Saini would have been playing today instead of Bhuvi. & also Gill would have been selected at least for either of Tests or ODIs.

 

More than Kohli, the  blame should go to  moron coach & joker selecter MSK.

Edited August 11, 2019 by rtmohanlal

[Real McCoy]

8 hours ago, Vilander said:

Disagree on what I am saying he should have not have been picked ahead of Shami. But all I am saying is there are more than one decision maker and they don't come off all the time.  

I misread it. I read esp as except