Dil Dil India Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 She constantly badmouths the army under the guise of criticizing the government. To top it off she apparently smuggled a foreign journalist into Kashmir in violation of the law. Why has no action been taken against her? Gollum 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollum Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 Beats me. Even her 'Gujarat Files' was trashed by the SC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollum Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 (edited) Compared to Rana Ayyub even Arundhati Roy makes sense. Edited December 12, 2019 by Gollum Sgattick10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dil Dil India Posted December 12, 2019 Author Share Posted December 12, 2019 Yes I am aware of that. Was called "full of conjecture, suppositions and hearsay" or something to that effect. She's broken the law this time, big time (if the Kashmir journalist thing is true). Action needs to be taken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mariyam Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 26 minutes ago, Dil Dil India said: She constantly badmouths the army under the guise of criticizing the government. To top it off she apparently smuggled a foreign journalist into Kashmir in violation of the law. Why has no action been taken against her? This is hilarious. https://www.opindia.com/2019/12/rana-ayyub-new-yorker-dexter-filkins-kashmir/ Filkins writes that he was invited by Rana Ayyub to Mumbai, from where they would try to get into Kashmir in blatant disregard to the Indian government’s order banning the foreign correspondents in Kashmir. The scribe mentions that Rana handed him a pair of scarves and told him to buy a kurta, the typical Indian tunic, to ‘disguise’ himself as an Indian. “I am ninety-nine per cent sure you will be caught, but you should come anyway. Just don’t open your mouth,” Filkins quoted Rana in his article. Filkins further mentions in the article that when they landed at the Srinagar airport, Rana hustled him away without getting him enrolled at the “Registration for Foreigners” desk. Taking advantage of the milling policemen and commotion at the airport, Filkins and Rana made it to the curb without being noticed and vamoosed for Srinagar. If true, speaks a lot more about our security services at what is supposed to be the most secure airport in India. Also, if true, Rana Ayub is likely to get booked. If its all cooked up, like most of her articles, there is no way she can be arrested. Being stupid and write nonsense is not a crime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dil Dil India Posted December 12, 2019 Author Share Posted December 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, Mariyam said: This is hilarious. https://www.opindia.com/2019/12/rana-ayyub-new-yorker-dexter-filkins-kashmir/ If true, speaks a lot more about our security services at what is supposed to be the most secure airport in India. Also, if true, Rana Ayub is likely to get booked. If its all cooked up, like most of her articles, there is no way she can be arrested. Being stupid and write nonsense is not a crime. Oh she's not stupid - she knows what she's doing. She's malicious and cunning - that's a much more dangerous combination than stupidity alone. I am not a legal expert but I would imagine if someone were to simply claim they committed a crime they could be charged. So even if cooked up, there should be a case against here until she actually owns up to cooking it up. Yes I agree. It speaks a lot about our security and that is exactly what I mentioned in the other thread - there's only so much our security forces can do. They are human beings after all...simply saying "believe in our security" and asking them to battle all and sundry is only going to wear them down and deplete our defences. Mariyam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandeep Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 She's monetized her "criticism" of India. Not the first, won't be the last. Sooner or later she will make mistakes though. @Mariyam You are our resident law expert, what is your take on the recent law that has seen so much misinformation being spread around? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dil Dil India Posted December 12, 2019 Author Share Posted December 12, 2019 1 minute ago, sandeep said: She's monetized her "criticism" of India. Not the first, won't be the last. Sooner or later she will make mistakes though. @Mariyam You are our resident law expert, what is your take on the recent law that has seen so much misinformation being spread around? Hasn't she already made mistakes? She has (ostensibly) broken the law! What more is needed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandeep Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, Dil Dil India said: Hasn't she already made mistakes? She has (ostensibly) broken the law! What more is needed? Violating the law on restrictions on journalists is a soft violation, not a serious one. Going after her for such things will make a "hero" out of her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dil Dil India Posted December 12, 2019 Author Share Posted December 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, sandeep said: Violating the law on restrictions on journalists is a soft violation, not a serious one. Going after her for such things will make a "hero" out of her. If the reports are true, she has smuggled a foreign journalist to a sensitive area. If she had simply gone herself and violated the law I could see your point but this is much more serious IMO. Besides, she keeps posting utter garbage, a lot of which could be considered defamatory and derrogative. Somewhere we need to draw a line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 50 minutes ago, Mariyam said: If true, speaks a lot more about our security services at what is supposed to be the most secure airport in India. Also, if true, Rana Ayub is likely to get booked. If its all cooked up, like most of her articles, there is no way she can be arrested. Being stupid and write nonsense is not a crime. usual back handed attempt at humor and deflection detected. Call a spade a spade memsaab. Libel / Defamation against a entity like Indian army can not be called stupid and laughed at. mishra 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 14 minutes ago, Dil Dil India said: If the reports are true, she has smuggled a foreign journalist to a sensitive area. If she had simply gone herself and violated the law I could see your point but this is much more serious no Indian govt should just be ok with this, cant help it. If they make a fuss its actually a foreign journalist, not allowing jurnolist in the fist place itself is not defensible however we like it and need it as a policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dil Dil India Posted December 12, 2019 Author Share Posted December 12, 2019 7 minutes ago, Vilander said: no Indian govt should just be ok with this, cant help it. If they make a fuss its actually a foreign journalist, not allowing jurnolist in the fist place itself is not defensible however we like it and need it as a policy. Sorry, I don't understand?Are you for or against taking action? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 Darling of the west. She gets to write crap like Bdutt in WaPo, NewYorker and western white libtards are lapping up the lies she has been spreading. She really hates India, Hindus and Modi. She's the new Arundhati Roy. Best ignored. More the government tries to pin her down, she gains more out of it. Stupid rat, that the West is using her as a sepoy. The White man's guilt of being a supremacist causes the libtards of the west to question everything that doesn't fit their myopic view of the world. They don't understand cultural differences like the NPR rant against Sabarimala issue. https://theprint.in/opinion/in-rana-ayyub-the-white-west-has-found-its-next-arundhati-roy/331730/ Quote Until recently, this mantle was worn by Arundhati Roy, who spoke for the marginalised and the process of dispossession. She was the interpreter of Indian maladies and spoke against the nuclear test, mining mafia, large dams and the Hindutva raj. And the West feted her with articles, op-eds and awards. Fodder for the West’s White saviour But why do Western chroniclers need regional heroes from the developing world for their stories of injustice? Latent White supremacy? Or something more benign like what Rudyard Kipling called “White man’s burden”? Or something deeper perhaps – the need to make one’s otherwise unremarkable life meaningful. But at the centre of it all, it is the saviour complex. Some of the claims made in the article – like the assertion of “thirty gunshot victims” in the hospital – is never substantiated through pictures, despite Ayyub and Filkins having a photographer (Avani Rai) travelling with them. More importantly, these 30 victims are not mentioned as having been seen by the protagonists. Given Rana Ayyub’s record of never substantiating anything, this is of course par for the course. The West is listening. Let’s hope it starts asking for some proof, too – for a change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dil Dil India Posted December 13, 2019 Author Share Posted December 13, 2019 31 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: Darling of the west. She gets to write crap like Bdutt in WaPo, NewYorker and western white libtards are lapping up the lies she has been spreading. She really hates India, Hindus and Modi. She's the new Arundhati Roy. Best ignored. More the government tries to pin her down, she gains more out of it. Stupid rat, that the West is using her as a sepoy. The White man's guilt of being a supremacist causes the libtards of the west to question everything that doesn't fit their myopic view of the world. They don't understand cultural differences like the NPR rant against Sabarimala issue. https://theprint.in/opinion/in-rana-ayyub-the-white-west-has-found-its-next-arundhati-roy/331730/ B.Dutt has toned down a lot over the last couple of years - I was pleasantly surprised seeing a video of her during the Kartarpur corridor thing giving it to Qureshi for talking **** about Kashmir/Modi. I still think there should be accountability. I get the making a hero out of her thing but she can't be smuggling foreign journalists inside sensitive territory. I thought Shehla Rashid and Saba Naqvi were stupid, Ayub takes the cake and then some...and of late Arfa Khanum and Iltija Mufti have joined the dumb brigade. Roy is a whole different level. Even lal topi quotes her lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mariyam Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 (edited) 15 hours ago, sandeep said: She's monetized her "criticism" of India. Not the first, won't be the last. Sooner or later she will make mistakes though. @Mariyam You are our resident law expert, what is your take on the recent law that has seen so much misinformation being spread around? Difficult to answer. When it comes to suing the media for libel, slander, or defamation, the responsibility rests with you to prove that: A journalist or media outlet published something false about you. That person acted deliberately and negligently. The false statement caused you harm. In India there is a big difference between defamation cases filed by members of the aam junta and those filed by known people/institutions. For instance, if say a Raj Parekh committed a stock market scam and a Raaj Pareekh who is a doctor ( a totally unrelated person) was mistakenly named and shamed in a print magazin/newspaper by lazy work of a journalist who couldn't bother to check credentials, high chances are that Raaj Pareekh would win sizeable compensation. In this case, the information the newspaper published is both false and damaging. Raaj Pareekh's reputation is harmed, and his patients will be wary and he will likely lose customers and revenue, even if the newspaper prints a correction. Therefore, if Raaj Pareekh brings a lawsuit for libel, the newspaper would lose 9 out of 10 times. However, the bar is set much higher when a public figure or celebrity or a recognizable institution has been wronged. A public figure/institution must prove that not only was a false statement published but that it was published with “actual malice.” That means the person or media organization making the false statement knew or should have known it was false but published it anyway. They must have demonstrated “reckless disregard for the truth”—either a lack of fact-checking, or printing the false story in spite of knowing the facts. This is a much higher standard to overcome, which makes it more difficult for public figures/institutions to win defamation lawsuits against the media. Edited December 13, 2019 by Mariyam Sgattick10 and sandeep 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandeep99 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 This fckgirl deserves zero attention. Turning_track, sergio04 and coffee_rules 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
putrevus Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 (edited) On 12/12/2019 at 4:10 PM, Mariyam said: This is hilarious. https://www.opindia.com/2019/12/rana-ayyub-new-yorker-dexter-filkins-kashmir/ If true, speaks a lot more about our security services at what is supposed to be the most secure airport in India. Also, if true, Rana Ayub is likely to get booked. If its all cooked up, like most of her articles, there is no way she can be arrested. Being stupid and write nonsense is not a crime. But why are they banning foreign journalists into Kashmir??? Edited December 17, 2019 by putrevus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 10 minutes ago, putrevus said: But why are they banning foreign journalists into Kashmir??? Have you read the names of those foreign journalists? Check them one more time. Reuters, NYT, Bbc, al jazeera cnn ft. They all have a baggage or belong to particular community Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austin 3:!6 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 No need to give her unnecessary attention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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