Team management considering Shreyas Iyer as part-time bowler?

[TNAmarkFromIndia]

 

I found it interesting that in the 2nd ODI, India didn't bowl a single over from Kedar Jadhav but bowled one over from Iyer. Is the team management grooming him to be a useful part-time option? 

[Ankit_sharma03]

I hope not....its tough for part timers now then in days of sachin, sehwag, yuvraj, ganguly.  Guys like jadhav n root has mystery about them. Root can bowl carrom bowl, seam up , leggies in between his off spinner. 

 

Many reason they aint good option anymore-

• 2 new balls unliks earlier when one it was one ball
• 4 fielder rule outside from 10-40 overs when part timers wud be bowler. The minute this rule came india stopping bowling yuvraj singh.
• Bigger bats
• smaller grounds
• Attacking batsmanship has evolved and is very calculative now

Now iyer already doesnt bowl much also he isnt a leggie which wud mean his control wont be great. Its not that kohli n rohit cant bowl but they knw they ll get tonked.

Would be a disastor unless he starts putting a lot of work on his bowling

[Cricwala]

If indeed TM has finally woken up to this point and spoken to Iyer, it's a good development. Always handy to have a couple of batsmen who can turn arm over. Iyer can bowl both leg and off spin by the way. But such bowlers hv to be used very intelligently, such as if pitch has slowed and is gripping, or certain batsmen is in, or set batsmen got out....I doubt kohli has that nous.

[TNAmarkFromIndia]

14 hours ago, Cricwala said:

Iyer can bowl both leg and off spin by the way. But such bowlers hv to be used very intelligently, such as if pitch has slowed and is gripping, or certain batsmen is in, or set batsmen got out....

Even Iyer has to be smart and keep varying his deliveries like Jadhav did. If he can prove himself as a handy part-timer, he'll seal his place in the team for a long time. 

[vvvslaxman]

Off spin is not such a difficult to ball to master. Basic off spin is very easy. It is astonishing none of our batsmen can roll their arm over.

[maniac]

1 hour ago, vvvslaxman said:

Off spin is not such a difficult to ball to master. Basic off spin is very easy. It is astonishing none of our batsmen can roll their arm over.

Rohit can and can do it very well. Has back issues and we don’t want our only power hitter to have back problems.

 

Kohli has this chris Harris type bowling but it is what it is.

 

Rahul can keep

 

It is just that the multi dimensional skills are not emphasized enough like they are in England these days were they have proper allrounders and 3-4 proper keeper bats in their side.

 

End result is we keep getting bits and pieces cricketers like Pandya bros, Dube, Shankar,Sundar and Jadeja the LOI cricketer 

[TNAmarkFromIndia]

5 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

It is astonishing none of our batsmen can roll their arm over.

They all bowl. It's just that they're not made to.

[Straight Drive]

We have too many bowlers who are innocuous with ball. His bowling would just add to that count.

[vvvslaxman]

yuvraj singh's pace variation is second to none. Sometimes it is so slow that batsmen are early into the shot.

[rkt.india]

Iyer started as a leg spinner, bowled some leg spin in his u19.

[Cricwala]

9 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

Off spin is not such a difficult to ball to master. Basic off spin is very easy. It is astonishing none of our batsmen can roll their arm over.

i get the impression that in this Indian team, bowling after you have become a 'senior' batsman is looked down upon, just like its always the newbies who end up fielding at FSL. I think the batsmen also try to preserve themselves by avoiding bowling - Rohit Sharma used to bowl fairly regularly till 2012 and had decent ODI ER of 5.1. But he suddenly stopped. Some say it was due to a finger injury in mid 2014, but actually he stopped bowling much before then, around the time he became a regular in the team.

 

Will also blame coaches in first class for not pushing young batsmen in this direction - to develop a solid 2nd skill i.e. part-time bowling, or specialist fielding position. Our players should learn from the 2000s generation and especially players like Tendulkar, Sehwag, Yuvi, Raina, who all kept bowling till late in their career and from countries like Aus, Eng, NZL where many batsmen routinely bowl part-time.

Edited December 21, 2019 by Cricwala

[prudent_kreeda]

I hope he somehow develop the skill to bowl atleast 4 overs in EMERGENCY and manage to escape carnage. Sole idea is to go with 4 bowlers plus Hardik & 6 batsmen including Iyer,till we find good bat who can bowl 5overs regularly in imp matches. Would be happy to see a team of Shaw,Rohit,kl,vk,Iyer,pant,Hardik,2wrist spinners&2 pacers.  Expectation is of just an over or 2 once in a while and will bowl more only when a bowler gets injured during play. 

[Ankit_sharma03]

11 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

Off spin is not such a difficult to ball to master. Basic off spin is very easy. It is astonishing none of our batsmen can roll their arm over.

they all can and all wud be doing in nets but its not easy for part timers as it use to be .....u need great control

jadhav strangely had great control . Guys like hafeez, malik or maxwell had done a lot of bowling for years . Someone like root has great variations. Rana , Vihari have the control or something diff to do this job.....but others who decide to roll their arm over will be tonked badly. 

[Ankit_sharma03]

9 hours ago, maniac said:

 

End result is we keep getting bits and pieces cricketers like Pandya bros, Dube, Shankar,Sundar and Jadeja the LOI cricketer 

among them only Krunal is bits n pieces 

just becoz someone bowls doesnt means he is bits n pieces 

[Ankit_sharma03]

23 hours ago, TNAmarkFromIndia said:

Even Iyer has to be smart and keep varying his deliveries like Jadhav did. If he can prove himself as a handy part-timer, he'll seal his place in the team for a long time. 

that ll need a lot of practice in nets n matches.....at this stage when he is trying to establish himself as batsman he ll only concentrate on his batting

[Ankit_sharma03]

9 hours ago, maniac said:

Rohit can and can do it very well. Has back issues and we don’t want our only power hitter to have back problems.

He has shoulder issue not back

He isnt a power hitter....he is at timer. Kaisa fan hai tu itna bhi nhin pata ?

 

Power hitting is a specialist job.....rohit struggled in middle had he been batting in lower order he wud have not lasted in international cricket 

9 hours ago, maniac said:

 

It is just that the multi dimensional skills are not emphasized enough like they are in England these days were they have proper allrounders and 3-4 proper keeper bats in their side. 

Multi dimension cricketers develop over time.....here ppl have no patience. 

 

Moeen ali was mocked in early days . 

Stokes had series of duck n the world t20 final disastor.

Woakes was made fun of trundler

 

Had these guys played for us the same ppl wud have called them bits n pieces n good for nothing. 

[Rasgulla]

Now KL should bowl bit of spin 

[TNAmarkFromIndia]

1 hour ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

at this stage when he is trying to establish himself as batsman he ll only concentrate on his batting

Unless team management wants him to work on his bowling. 

[Khota]

Let him focus on bowling. He is doing great and let him gain some confidence atthat stage.

[rkt.india]

4 hours ago, TNAmarkFromIndia said:

Unless team management wants him to work on his bowling. 

In this team whoever bowls some isn't considered a batsman.