Once Rohit returns, will be difficult to choose between Shikhar & Rahul in t20s - Virat Kohli

[Cricwala]

7 hours ago, Kothili said:

Drunk with power abetted by a fangless BCCI. Dada needs to step in to stop this madness.

Dada has done what he could by stressing on ICC trophy and winning overseas. Let's hope he's around till 2021 to strip Kohli off captaincy, and finally, belatedly start split captaincy era in India - LOIs (Rohit/Iyer), tests (Mayank/Vihari/Rahane)

[Ankit_sharma03]

@velu- he cant play spin ?

 

 

 

[Cricwala]

13 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

yup i remember that how Cheerleader shastri told in an interview that dhawan is no.1 opener now , after rahul was best batsman in Aus home series where most were struggling , scoring runs in Aus n WI. These insecurities started rahul downfall when he was in form, he got chances when he lost his form not when he was in form.

 

my worry is same will happen again that dhawan will feast on this attack n rahul will face the sword and the logic wud be left right combination n experience

KL being dropped for Dhawan in SL tour of India 3rd test, and then 1st test against SA, despite a fabulous 2017 was start of his slide. second blow came in mid 2018 when KL stroked a sublime 100 in a T20 against Eng, failed in 1 ODI at no. 4 then was promptly dropped for series decider. His confidence was shaken.

KL is the 2nd all-format batsman we had after Kohli, with a mature TM handling him, he might well have become a star for us by now. Incidentally, all these selectoral shenanigans by Kohli started after Kumbles departure.

[Ankit_sharma03]

7 minutes ago, Cricwala said:

KL being dropped for Dhawan in SL tour of India 3rd test, and then 1st test against SA, despite a fabulous 2017 was start of his slide. second blow came in mid 2018 when KL stroked a sublime 100 in a T20 against Eng, failed in 1 ODI at no. 4 then was promptly dropped for series decider. His confidence was shaken.

KL is the 2nd all-format batsman we had after Kohli, with a mature TM handling him, he might well have become a star for us by now. Incidentally, all these selectoral shenanigans by Kohli started after Kumbles departure.

Even when he did well in wc he was dropped. He avg 45 in the wc. 

In sl also he was given a chance at 4 , kohli said he was to good a batsman to sit and after 3 failure which was against a mystery spinner he was told he is now backup opener. Even our greats struggled against mendia for some time when he was new. 

Kl with hia recoed shud have been the 1st name in t20 but he was on bench. Easy to say he lost his form but if we start to look how it started it was TM 

[nevada]

Given that Dhawan has an unspectacular T20 record and hasn't even played a single innings yet to justify an argument for a place in the T20 side, it is too early for Kohli to say anything on the topic. KL has to score1-2 centuries this series or else he is a goner.

Edited January 5, 2020 by nevada

[putrevus]

Rahul is better than Dhawan in t20 but people need to stop it there.Rahul has been utterly useless in tests and he is not better than Dhawn in odis.Stop  this nonsense that Rahul did not get chances to prove his talent.

Edited January 5, 2020 by putrevus

[velu]

1 hour ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

@velu- he cant play spin ?

 

 

 

 

Can you post his average vs spin n pace in international games ? 

I can also post his batting vs Dhananjay or that nobody spinner from SL

[Ankit_sharma03]

10 minutes ago, velu said:

 

Can you post his average vs spin n pace in international games ? 

I can also post his batting vs Dhananjay or that nobody spinner from SL

dhanajay was a mystery spinner u want me to show what mendis did in his early matches to great

most mystery spinner trouble batsman when he is new

 

Wasnt dhanayjya bowling after being figured out in this game when rahul was batting

 

India R BF 4s 6s SR      % of Total R G Sharma* c Dananjaya b Chameera 118  43  12  10 274.42  45.38% K L Rahul c †Dickwella b Pradeep 89  49  5  8 181.63  34.23% M S Dhoni† b N L T C Perera 28  21  2  2 133.33  10.77% H H Pandya c Samarawickrama b Pradeep 10  3  1  1 333.33  3.85% S S Iyer lbw b N L T C Perera 0  1  0  0 0.00   M K Pandey not out 1  1  0  0 100.00  0.38% K D Karthik not out 5  2  1  0 250.00  1.92% Kuldeep Yadav               J J Bumrah               J D Unadkat               Y S Chahal               Extras (lb 3, w 6) 9   Total 5 wickets   (20.0 overs @ 13.00 rpo) 260     Fall of Wickets 1-165  Sharma    2-243  Rahul    3-253  Pandya    4-254  Iyer    5-255  Dhoni      Bowling O M R W ER      % of Wickets A D Mathews 2.2 0 16 0 6.86   P V D Chameera 4.0 0 45 1 11.25  10.00% N Pradeep 4.0 0 61 2 15.25  20.00% A Dananjaya 3.4 0 49 0 13.36   N L T C Perera 4.0 0 49 2 12.25  20.00% P C de Silva 1.0 0 16 0 16.00   D A S Gunaratne 1.0 0 21 0 21.00

 

 

 

India		R	BF	4s	6s	SR	% of Total
R G Sharma*	c Chameera b Mathews	17	13	2	0	130.77	9.44%
K L Rahul	b N L T C Perera	61	48	7	1	127.08	33.89%
S S Iyer	c †Dickwella b Pradeep	24	20	3	0	120.00	13.33%
M S Dhoni†	not out	39	22	4	1	177.27	21.67%
M K Pandey	not out	32	18	2	2	177.78	17.78%
K D Karthik
H H Pandya
Kuldeep Yadav
J J Bumrah
J D Unadkat
Y S Chahal
Extras	(b 1, lb 1, w 4, nb 1)	7
Total	3 wickets   (20.0 overs @ 9.00 rpo)	180
Fall of Wickets	1-38  Sharma    2-101  Iyer    3-112  Rahul
Bowling O M R W ER      % of Wickets M V T Fernando 2.0 0 16 0 8.00   A Dananjaya 4.0 0 30 0 7.50   P V D Chameera 3.0 0 38 0 12.67   A D Mathews 3.0 0 19 1 6.33  10.00% N L T C Perera 4.0 0 37 1 9.25  10.00% N Pradeep 4.0 0 38 1 9.50  10.00%

Edited January 5, 2020 by Ankit_sharma03

[Ankit_sharma03]

 

 

 

 

 

[velu]

16 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

dhanajay was a mystery spinner u want me to show what mendis did in his early matches to great

most mystery spinner trouble batsman when he is new

 

Wasnt dhanayjya bowling after being figured out in this game when rahul was batting

 

India R BF 4s 6s SR      % of Total R G Sharma* c Dananjaya b Chameera 118  43  12  10 274.42  45.38% K L Rahul c †Dickwella b Pradeep 89  49  5  8 181.63  34.23% M S Dhoni† b N L T C Perera 28  21  2  2 133.33  10.77% H H Pandya c Samarawickrama b Pradeep 10  3  1  1 333.33  3.85% S S Iyer lbw b N L T C Perera 0  1  0  0 0.00   M K Pandey not out 1  1  0  0 100.00  0.38% K D Karthik not out 5  2  1  0 250.00  1.92% Kuldeep Yadav               J J Bumrah               J D Unadkat               Y S Chahal               Extras (lb 3, w 6) 9   Total 5 wickets   (20.0 overs @ 13.00 rpo) 260     Fall of Wickets 1-165  Sharma    2-243  Rahul    3-253  Pandya    4-254  Iyer    5-255  Dhoni      Bowling O M R W ER      % of Wickets A D Mathews 2.2 0 16 0 6.86   P V D Chameera 4.0 0 45 1 11.25  10.00% N Pradeep 4.0 0 61 2 15.25  20.00% A Dananjaya 3.4 0 49 0 13.36   N L T C Perera 4.0 0 49 2 12.25  20.00% P C de Silva 1.0 0 16 0 16.00   D A S Gunaratne 1.0 0 21 0 21.00

 

 

 

India		R	BF	4s	6s	SR	% of Total
R G Sharma*	c Chameera b Mathews	17	13	2	0	130.77	9.44%
K L Rahul	b N L T C Perera	61	48	7	1	127.08	33.89%
S S Iyer	c †Dickwella b Pradeep	24	20	3	0	120.00	13.33%
M S Dhoni†	not out	39	22	4	1	177.27	21.67%
M K Pandey	not out	32	18	2	2	177.78	17.78%
K D Karthik
H H Pandya
Kuldeep Yadav
J J Bumrah
J D Unadkat
Y S Chahal
Extras	(b 1, lb 1, w 4, nb 1)	7
Total	3 wickets   (20.0 overs @ 9.00 rpo)	180
Fall of Wickets	1-38  Sharma    2-101  Iyer    3-112  Rahul
Bowling O M R W ER      % of Wickets M V T Fernando 2.0 0 16 0 8.00   A Dananjaya 4.0 0 30 0 7.50   P V D Chameera 3.0 0 38 0 12.67   A D Mathews 3.0 0 19 1 6.33  10.00% N L T C Perera 4.0 0 37 1 9.25  10.00% N Pradeep 4.0 0 38 1 9.50  10.00%

 

It's far easier to conclude if we get his average vs spin

 

[Ankit_sharma03]

 

 

[Mosher]

30 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

 

 

 

 

 

SR of 108 in pp is poor. If Kohli can't see this difference in quality between these 2 batsmen he is either an idiot or just biased. 

[Khota]

8 hours ago, Vickydev said:

DK should be played in this format instead of Iyer and Pandey. There are few like him who can come in and start hitting from the go. He hasn't failed in this format at all, infact one of the better players. Him and Pandya in the lower order can transform this team.

Will need a spectacular IPL for that to happen though.

DK should play but instead of Pant. Iyer deserves a place on his own merit.

[Khota]

8 hours ago, New guy said:

Dhawan sucks in international t20 cricket

 Your pipe fantasies does not make for reality

We shall see in a short time.

[Khota]

1 hour ago, nevada said:

Given that Dhawan has an unspectacular T20 record and hasn't even played a single innings yet to justify an argument for a place in the T20 side, it is too early for Kohli to say anything on the topic. KL has to score1-2 centuries this series or else he is a goner.

Second highest scorer in IPL is hardly unspectacular.

[Khota]

8 hours ago, New guy said:

A delusional person not living in reality cannot be right ever 

Scoring more runs is not delusion.

[Khota]

5 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

so for ur info rahul is only batsman in the world in that who has 140+ s/r with 40+ avg (among who has played 15+ games)

Avg + s/r boom 

Good for him. Did I ever say to drop him for this format?

[Mariyam]

While I don't have much (euphemism for nothing) to add to the entire Rahul vs Dhawan debate. But I do have an opinion here:

I don't understand Kohli. Why must he spell this out? Just keep your Dhawan vs KL thoughts to yourself. Don't vitiate the dressing room with irresponsible statements. Why does Kohli take it upon himself to express every opinion in public. Even if it is

1) None of his business

2) An area where he has no expertise.

 

I remember reading some comments from Kohli about limiting tests to 5 cities in India. What the hell even?

Recently, he was asked about the CAA and he I'm glad he kept mum.

 

I don't rate Kohli as a good Captain/leader at all. Doesn't hold a candle to his predecessor Dhoni who actually won us trophies and would do his talking on the field.

Edited January 5, 2020 by Mariyam

[Khota]

Guys chill out. This will be settled on the field and not on this forum.

[Mariyam]

15 hours ago, The Realist said:

There's more chance of Kohli taking a hattrick than there is of him ever dropping Dhawan, that love goes deep.

 

 

Riding without a helmet.  

Triple seat.   

 

Where is the RTO when you need em?

 

Edited January 5, 2020 by Mariyam