How does thakur become better one day for kohli and saini the next day.

[putrevus]

Just now, Ankit_sharma03 said:

pant performed in WI series so he didnt deserve to be dropped

Rahul was treated same and so was pant....dont need to remind how rahul has been benched for mediocre dhawan in t20s for long and now same with pant

 

The fuss is it didnt work both time coz it was a wrong

 

Too mat krna galat defend....fuss nhin lagega

Pant deserved to be dropped , if Rahul stinks for same number of matches he should he dropped too.

 

Stop making topics just becuase you can?

 

 

[Ankit_sharma03]

2 minutes ago, putrevus said:

Pant deserved to be dropped

After doing well in WI series ??? Player deserved to be dropped after doing well 

2 minutes ago, putrevus said:

if Rahul stinks for same number of matches he should he dropped too.

Remind me when did rahul stunk in t20

remind me what did dhawan do to play ahead of rahul in t20...heck even in test 

2 minutes ago, putrevus said:

 

Stop making topics just becuase you can?

 

 

stop defending coz u cant

[G_B_]

Just now, Ankit_sharma03 said:

u are talking as if saini has bowled for a season, he came from an injury long ago so he already had a lay off

cummins has been bowling non stop for long

the context is rotation

 

backup opener need to be identified which is where rotation is needed

Saini needs games under his belt before WC.....coz in WC tournament u need experience and most imp he is better

 

Its a long tour ahead. This is the first of eight games. So Saini has 7 more games. I am sure he will come in for atleast 4-5 of them given India may want to protect Shami and Bumrah for the tests. 

 

To be fair its not just the pacers. India has been rotating likes of Kuldeep Chahal etc as well. so its applicable to spinners. Once Pandya comes back I am sure there will be a rotation with likes of Jadeja.

 

The back up opener does need to be tested out. I am not disputing any of that.

 

 

[New guy]

16 minutes ago, putrevus said:

Who cares what happened, Saini not playing this match or Wankhade is not a big deal. Pant deserved to be dropped so he got dropped. Rahul what about him?Stop making fuss about everything.

How did Pant deserve to get dropped after his last t20 series? Are you confusing odis with t20s?

[New guy]

10 minutes ago, putrevus said:

Pant deserved to be dropped , if Rahul stinks for same number of matches he should he dropped too.

 

Stop making topics just becuase you can?

 

 

Pant performed well last t20 series so now you are plain lying 

[Ankit_sharma03]

4 minutes ago, G_B_ said:

 

Its a long tour ahead. This is the first of eight games. So Saini has 7 more games. I am sure he will come in for atleast 4-5 of them given India may want to protect Shami and Bumrah for the tests. 

saini is not a confirmed starter in test

let the test match start ull see the mistake of umesh playing ahead of him

 

 

If anyone who needs rotation is our old man shami 

 

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To be fair its not just the pacers. India has been rotating likes of Kuldeep Chahal etc as well. so its applicable to spinners. Once Pandya comes back I am sure there will be a rotation with likes of Jadeja.

kulcha rotation had reason today 

kuldeep flights which can be a problem in short ground

chahal bowls wide of crease which works better here or chinnaswamy

 

I dont knw what jadeja has done in t20 to hold a place he is as bad as dhawan

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The back up opener does need to be tested out. I am not disputing any of that.

yea we need to know who it is 

shaw or samson 

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[Ankit_sharma03]

1 minute ago, New guy said:

How did Pant deserve to get dropped after his last t20 series? Are you confusing odis with t20s?

pant even did well in ODI against WI

[putrevus]

11 minutes ago, Global.Baba said:

Why does Kohli always mess up selections at the start and only when it comes back to bite him stats fixing it?

 

We saw the trend in SA,Eng and even Aus.

 

Even recently in Aus series his selection started getting better after the trashing in the first game.

 

Its fine is you make mistakes as long as you learn from them but he just keeps going back like a loop rather than going forward 

Not everything is a mistake in selection just because it did not work. Thakur's selection was not wrong in Australian series also. Every move or selection by any captain/TM in a bilateral series does not  have be upto the point as far that match goes , whole season is ahead.As I have always said if there is just one spot which is debatable then TM/captain have done their job.Shami went for plenty in this match was it wrong to select him too.

 

The only blunder Shastri and Kohli have committed is non selection of Iyer for world cup. Rest of them are not a big deal IMO.

[Ankit_sharma03]

19 minutes ago, Global.Baba said:

Why does Kohli always mess up selections at the start and only when it comes back to bite him stats fixing it?

 

We saw the trend in SA,Eng and even Aus.

 

Even recently in Aus series his selection started getting better after the trashing in the first game.

 

Its fine is you make mistakes as long as you learn from them but he just keeps going back like a loop rather than going forward 

RCB has same issues

Ajay jadeja once said - some people cant handle to many options and kohli is one of them So dont give him options. 

[Ankit_sharma03]

Just now, putrevus said:

Not everything is a mistake in selection just because it did not work. Thakur's selection was not wrong in Australian series also.

 team has to play best XI and a mediocre bowler playing ahead of someone who was bowling at same level as of shami n bumrah is not a mistake

 

Just now, putrevus said:

Every move or selection by any captain/TM in a bilateral series does not  have be upto the point as far that match goes , whole season is ahead.

yes mistakes will happen but why do they keep repeating it- iyer, rahul, pant , saini .....list is going on n on 

and if they had a plan of doing why not stick it ....my question is simple then why change it immediately and go back on it

 

u think this is only one example 

Just now, putrevus said:

As I have always said if there is just one spot which is debatable then TM/captain have done their job.Shami went for plenty in this match was it wrong to select him too.

its not one spot

pandey playing ahead of pant,samson is also wrong

thank god dhawan got injured or else he wud have been in XI

Even jadeja has done nothing to play ahead of sundar

Just now, putrevus said:

The only blunder Shastri and Kohli have committed is non selection of Iyer for world cup. Rest of them are not a big deal IMO.

another one of same example of flip flop of their mindset 

[Unstable Joe]

51 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

dube has batted in 5 innings in which he has already done well once most imp his s/r is 150 which is his job

bowled in 7 games...has an eco of 8.9 which is fine for a 6th bowling, in 7 games already done well twice 

 

thakur bowling eco is 8.7 .....and he is main bowler , his eco is near a 6th bowler . So he isnt even doing his job well

 

So the keeda u have na to prove ur right hold it for a number of games coz every deserves a fair number of game

 

I knw where his bowling n batting stands but unlike u i also knws teams needs, so stop bringing it again n again after every games coz number dont support u now . Stop asking me as if i have said he is akthar with a ball n viv with bat 

 

A team works on what it needs not what on global baba evaluation which has been proven wrong n most importantly which belongs to stone age era

You forgot the dot 

[cowboysfan]

i dont mind Saini not playing these t20s games,imo he should be in the 11 for the tests.

[jalebi_bhai]

Gavaskar explicitly mentioned on commentary that Saini was still jetlagged, which is actually believable.

 

So he was rested not 'dropped'. No need to overreact.

[Ankit_sharma03]

15 minutes ago, cowboysfan said:

i dont mind Saini not playing these t20s games,imo he should be in the 11 for the tests.

even there umesh will play ahead

[RajBan]

1 hour ago, Global.Baba said:

As mediocre as he is is still a better batsman and bowler and probably fielder than Dube

Thakur is a better bowler than Saini and better batsman than Dubey? What next? He is a better fielder than Jadeja? Friday night probably came early for you.

[Global.Baba]

5 minutes ago, RajBan said:

Thakur is a better bowler than Saini and better batsman than Dubey? What next? He is a better fielder than Jadeja? Friday night probably came early for you.

No he is a better bowler than Dube not Saini and so far has played more impactful innings than Dube as well.

 

Thakur is mediocre but so is Dube a notch below.

[vvvslaxman]

Saini is still sleeping. That is what Gavsakar told lol Thakur was not the preferred choice. Since he was recovering from jet lag he wasn't picked.

[gakgupta]

Yeah one game he was better by being less mediocre  lol. Anyway who is saying Thakur Is a legendary batsman or bowler but he is still leagues ahead of Dube as a cricketer and that says something. Thakur already won India a few games as well. Obviously Thakur has to go but only after Dube

You seem to be fan of thakur .....

Every player has a ceiling and dube has much higher celing as compared to thakur...

Dube can give 3 handy overs per match and can be very very good hitter

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[ganeshran]

Saini was jetlagged according to TM, that's why Thakur had to bowl. 

[gakgupta]

Thakur is a better bowler than Saini and better batsman than Dubey? What next? He is a better fielder than Jadeja? Friday night probably came early for you.

You forgot couple of points...

He is fatter than Rohit and shorter than anyone in the team

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