Ankit_sharma03 Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 As of now this is how our settled t20 batting lineup looks like acc to TM Rahul Rohit Kohli Iyer Manish Pandya Jadeja But somehow i feel this again goes back to a time when we lacked firepower in middle . TM did try dube for that role and it didnt work out . Also considering Rohit takes his time n kohli has his own set pattern we still only have 2 guys Rahul n pandya batting at 140+ s/r Lets look at their S/r in t20s Shreyas International- 129.5 IPL- 126.96 Manish International- 127.6 IPL-120.82 Jadeja International- 101.8 IPL-122.58 In Iyer IPL career he only has good s/r against 2 teams Iyer s/r vs opponents- only good against bangladesh Versus Mat Inns NO 100s 50s 0s HS Runs Avg S/R Ca St Bangladesh 3 3 1 0 1 0 62 108 54.00 183.05 2 0 New Zealand 8 7 2 0 1 0 58* 182 36.40 127.27 3 0 South Africa 2 2 1 0 0 0 16* 21 21.00 95.45 0 0 Sri Lanka 6 5 0 0 0 1 34 92 18.40 113.58 1 0 West Indies 3 3 1 0 0 0 10 14 7.00 82.35 1 0 Overall (5) 22 20 5 0 2 1 62 417 27.80 129.50 7 0 What goes in Iyer favour is his numbers at 4 is very good Performance Analysis by Batting Position Position Inns NO 100s 50s 0s HS Runs Avg S/R Ca St 3 4 0 0 0 0 34 111 27.75 112.12 0 0 4 8 3 0 2 0 62 250 50.00 151.52 5 0 5 7 2 0 0 1 17 46 9.20 97.87 2 0 6 1 0 0 0 0 10 10 10.00 90.91 0 0 Overall 20 5 0 2 1 62 417 27.80 129.50 7 0 Jadeja s/r batting at 7 is 118 Performance Analysis by Batting Position Position Inns NO 100s 50s 0s HS Runs Avg S/R Ca St 4 1 0 0 0 0 25 25 25.00 71.43 1 0 6 1 0 0 0 0 7 7 7.00 175.00 0 0 7 11 5 0 0 1 19 85 14.17 118.06 2 0 8 9 3 0 0 1 19 51 8.50 96.23 4 0 9 1 1 0 0 0 5* 5 83.33 0 0 Overall 23 9 0 0 2 25 173 12.36 101.76 21 0 Manish Pandey s/r looks to have improved in last year but still we will knw better with a bigger sample Year Mat Inns NO 100s 50s 0s HS Runs Avg S/R Ca St 2015 2 2 0 0 0 1 19 19 9.50 86.36 1 0 2016 4 2 0 0 0 1 48 48 24.00 133.33 0 0 2017 9 8 3 0 1 0 51* 172 34.40 129.32 2 0 2018 13 11 7 0 1 0 79* 299 74.75 121.05 3 0 2019 4 4 2 0 0 0 22* 49 24.50 122.50 1 0 2020 6 5 5 0 1 0 50* 120 157.89 2 0 Overall (6) 38 32 17 0 3 2 79* 707 47.13 127.62 9 0 This may not look like a huge issue now as we are winnings but in future it wud , one position among the 3 has to be looked at for a player who can score at at a very good s/r . Lets not forget dhawan wud always be in contention for TM so dont rule out rahul being made to bat in middle even in t20s saik 1 Link to comment
nevada Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 Dube was tried out for the role and he hasn't been impactful. Pant could grow into that role but TM isn't interested. RAZPOR and maniac 2 Link to comment
ShoonyaSifar Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 Didn't Kohli say Rahul will bat in the middle order when Dhawan is back? Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted February 3, 2020 Author Share Posted February 3, 2020 6 minutes ago, ShoonyaSifar said: Didn't Kohli say Rahul will bat in the middle order when Dhawan is back? nope he hasnt said anything like that for t20s atleast. Neways never trust kohli....he ll say something n do the exact opposite of it in 2-3 games RAZPOR 1 Link to comment
Stan AF Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 I don't see neither fire nor power between these three. Link to comment
Sooda Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 Replace them with Surya Kumar Yaddav, Nitish Rana and Krunal Pandya Link to comment
Gollum Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 (edited) More than firepower, to win ICC trophies we need one superclutch batsman in the team and that guy isn't necessarily the best batsman...Srikkanth was that man in 1983 and '85, Gambo in 2007 and '11. I sense that clutchness in Iyer, he may look uncomfortable sometimes (like Steve Waugh and Smith) but his success is based on mental toughness. He also has age on his side, keep him in the side, remaining 2 spots change personnel. If at all India has to win some damn ICC trophies in the coming years KLR and Iyer will have huge roles to play. Edited June 13, 2020 by Gollum nevada and Jimmy Cliff 2 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted June 13, 2020 Author Share Posted June 13, 2020 15 minutes ago, Sooda said: Replace them with Surya Kumar Yaddav, Nitish Rana and Krunal Pandya Against quality fast bowling SKY i think is fine at best Krunal is one of the worst player of fast bowling i have seen Nitish has had his issue against short pitch my point is Iyer and pandey both cant play together only one shud play 5th slot shud be a fight between DK vs Pant vs Rana- in which i think DK n pant are ahead 6th slot shud be a fight between Krunal vs Rana- Krunal gives more bowling , Rana batting so we can see what we want SKY shud be in plans but Link to comment
zen Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 Unless Ind meets at least one Asian team in SF or F, it may be difficult to win a title by winning two consecutive KO games vs. SENA teams, which can pick up quick early wickets Below is my T20 11 based on current form and playing style dynamics KL Shaw/Agarwal/? Kohli Iyer Pandya - can be promoted to #3 Pant - can be promoted to #3 A big hitting AR 2 from Kuldeep,Chahal,R Chahar ....fast bowler like Krishna .... Bhuvi, Shami, D Chahar, .... Saini Bumrah Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted June 13, 2020 Author Share Posted June 13, 2020 1 minute ago, zen said: Agarwal/? aggarwal has been a flop in t20.....hasnt done well in IPL Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted June 13, 2020 Author Share Posted June 13, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, zen said: A big hitting AR apart from hardik we dont have any , if there is anyone who can play at high s/r thats DK but that also means lack of 6th bowling option Edited June 13, 2020 by Ankit_sharma03 Link to comment
Gollum Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 8 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: apart from hardik we dont have any , if there is anyone who can play at high s/r thats DK but that also means lack of 6th bowling option DK vs 6th bowling option, million dollar question. Maybe that call has to be made before toss. Link to comment
zen Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 The decision on playing the 2nd AR would depend upon a) how well the other bowlers are bowling, b) how well other batsmen are batting, and c) the form of 2nd AR Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted June 13, 2020 Author Share Posted June 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Gollum said: DK vs 6th bowling option, million dollar question. Maybe that call has to be made before toss. 1 hour ago, zen said: The decision on playing the 2nd AR would depend upon a) how well the other bowlers are bowling, b) how well other batsmen are batting, and c) the form of 2nd AR and even other factors need to be seen Like how much batting does one need in 20 over game Hardik fitness has been dodgy Form of pant , coz the idea of doing this is when u have can fill in a lineup with destructive players like pant and DK. I dont like the idea of having iyer n manish in same lineup . Or may be someone like sky or rana who can atleast give 1-2 overs. In this regd WI and ENg are very lucky . DK own form also need to be seen, he is at such an age where form can go in no time and this break can make older players rusty. Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted June 15, 2020 Author Share Posted June 15, 2020 the person with the shittest s.r jaddu is still playing for us Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted October 17, 2020 Author Share Posted October 17, 2020 KL also gets slow Iyer starts slow Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted October 17, 2020 Author Share Posted October 17, 2020 6 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: KL also gets slow Iyer starts slow Link to comment
Lone Wolf Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 We reached Semis last time with god awful lower MO of Dhoni Yuvi & Manish was part of squad. At rhe top we had Dhawan who lost form as usual in T20 WC & Rahane was opening. So things were very very bad. Team was entirely running over Kohli's form. We don't need to make wholesale changes as we know youngsters are not impressing much. Rahul Rohit Kohli Iyer SKY Pant/Pandya (If Pandya is bowling he should slot right in) Ashwin Saini Chahar/Shami Bumrah Chahal Reserves: Mayank/Dhawan Rahul Chahar.. Impressive young pacers + any young middle order batsman Link to comment
Serpico Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 On 10/18/2020 at 2:56 PM, Lone Wolf said: We reached Semis last time with god awful lower MO of Dhoni Yuvi & Manish was part of squad. At rhe top we had Dhawan who lost form as usual in T20 WC & Rahane was opening. So things were very very bad. Team was entirely running over Kohli's form. We don't need to make wholesale changes as we know youngsters are not impressing much. Rahul Rohit Kohli Iyer SKY Pant/Pandya (If Pandya is bowling he should slot right in) Ashwin Saini Chahar/Shami Bumrah Chahal Reserves: Mayank/Dhawan Rahul Chahar.. Impressive young pacers + any young middle order batsman that is a long tail for a t20 team. Axar patel/Washington sundar/Shreys gopal as second spinner. I like ashwin but unless becomes good enough for first spinner in t20s, he shouldn't be selected Link to comment
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