Alam_dar Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Real McCoy said: Anyone who is not a citizen of USA and supporting or following american elections is a moron in my view doesn't matter what age group they are in I absolutely don't agree with you. We are living in a global world, where we all are connected in one way or another. US is influencing our life directly or indirectly. coffee_rules 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alam_dar Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 On 7/21/2020 at 9:58 AM, raki05 said: Where did you bring that figure from. Moreover it doesn't matter what a foreign national feel about our internal matter 80% of Indian population ok with CAA. Only 20% have issue and you know who those 20% are? Firstly, I don't agree with the figures of 20%. Indian Secularists and other minorities also against the CAA. Secondly, even if it is 20%, still you could not impose things upon the minorities which go against the basic human rights. OK, you may impose it like the Pakistani fanatics could also come up with all types of bills and laws which violate the basic human rights of Ahmadi Muslims and other minorities, but all such acts are shameful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stradlater Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 I dislike the orange buffoon myself but a big lol at those trying to defend Biden here. Laaloo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velu Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Real McCoy said: Anyone who is not a citizen of USA and supporting or following american elections is a moron in my view doesn't matter what age group they are in Nifty and BN follows Dow Jones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
someone Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 25 minutes ago, Stradlater said: I dislike the orange buffoon myself but a big lol at those trying to defend Biden here. Biden will just be president in name only(PINO). The control will be in hand of special group. The Dems could have played balance between the sides, but they choose to align with the pro-Muslim lobby. Anybody with Indian interests is better with current President than him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan AF Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 (edited) Read more at:https://www.businessinsider.in/international/news/the-us-recorded-more-than-1100-daily-coronavirus-deaths-for-the-2nd-day-in-a-row-with-southern-states-reporting-more-than-700-of-them/articleshow/77125821.cms?utm_source=contentofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst Back to 1000 deaths/day in US. Edited July 23, 2020 by Stan AF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alam_dar Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 (edited) 11 hours ago, someone said: Biden will just be president in name only(PINO). The control will be in hand of special group. The Dems could have played balance between the sides, but they choose to align with the pro-Muslim lobby. Anybody with Indian interests is better with current President than him... As I stated before, pro Pakistan lobby is very weak in US. Democratic voters prefer India much more over Pakistan, while the Republican voters make fun of Indians and consider them less human beings. It is not an issue of Pro Pakistan lobby, but the issue is "Human Rights Situation" in India. If any Secular government comes in India instead of right wing BJP government, then these issues will be automatically solved. Edited July 24, 2020 by Alam_dar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gattaca Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 (edited) On 7/13/2020 at 5:28 PM, vvvslaxman said: YOu really think red state voted for Obama? lol They called him with all kind of racial slurs. Three cops were sharing emails where Reagan was feeding a little monkey (which was President Obama). All 3 got suspended. Michelle Obama had to endure so much from these racists. You have to understand how US politics works. This is a messed up country very long. They treat women with utmost disrespect not just blacks. Till 1918 women could not vote. Till 1965 there were no equal rights for Blacks. Lynching blacks, margnalizing them were normalized thing for a very long period. Some of the marginalization exist till date. That doesn't exclude celebrities. Even they have to endure. They practically had no real roots. Was brought in as slaves. Marginalized, oppressed for decades. Even now in my area most of them don't feel sympathy for George flloyd. There are so many ways they sideline them. Generally they are poor with low income. So they rely on public transportation. Area where the whites reside predominantly vote against public transportation like train just to keep them away. Many Indians seriously denigrate them with stereotyped messages. Guys like Trump openly encourage with violent message against them. To all those who work in america should thank blacks for civil rights movement. Till then immigration was race based. We could have never set foot there. Check out Indiana. It is as red as it can get. We voted Obama. Stop believing what CNN and Anderson copper and Zakria are feeding you. Agree there are racists doesn’t mean every one is like that. Even trump is called all kind of things by left. Edited July 24, 2020 by gattaca Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alam_dar Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 On 7/13/2020 at 11:28 PM, vvvslaxman said: YOu really think red state voted for Obama? lol They called him with all kind of racial slurs. Three cops were sharing emails where Reagan was feeding a little monkey (which was President Obama). All 3 got suspended. Michelle Obama had to endure so much from these racists. You have to understand how US politics works. This is a messed up country very long. They treat women with utmost disrespect not just blacks. Till 1918 women could not vote. Till 1965 there were no equal rights for Blacks. Lynching blacks, margnalizing them were normalized thing for a very long period. Some of the marginalization exist till date. That doesn't exclude celebrities. Even they have to endure. They practically had no real roots. Was brought in as slaves. Marginalized, oppressed for decades. Even now in my area most of them don't feel sympathy for George flloyd. There are so many ways they sideline them. Generally they are poor with low income. So they rely on public transportation. Area where the whites reside predominantly vote against public transportation like train just to keep them away. Many Indians seriously denigrate them with stereotyped messages. Guys like Trump openly encourage with violent message against them. To all those who work in america should thank blacks for civil rights movement. Till then immigration was race based. We could have never set foot there. Thank you sir for this beautiful peace of writing and advise to the Asian minorities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vvvslaxman Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 3 hours ago, gattaca said: Check out Indiana. It is as red as it can get. We voted Obama. Stop believing what CNN and Anderson copper and Zakria are feeding you. Agree there are racists doesn’t mean every one is like that. Even trump is called all kind of things by left. Dude you have stop believing what FOX NOISE feeds you. I don't even watch CNN. There are 1000s of outlets. Sadly you would call all of them fake. Trump is a racist. You have doubts about that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gattaca Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 (edited) 50 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: Dude you have stop believing what FOX NOISE feeds you. I don't even watch CNN. There are 1000s of outlets. Sadly you would call all of them fake. Trump is a racist. You have doubts about that? Lol he is not racist but opportunistic. Simple difference. He will side with anyone who will help him win. He is not even republican to begin with. Edited July 24, 2020 by gattaca Ranvir and someone 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarke Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 1 hour ago, gattaca said: Lol he is not racist but opportunistic. Simple difference. He will side with anyone who will help him win. He is not even republican to begin with. You mean if the KKK makes a strong comeback he'll pander them for the votes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raki05 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 16 hours ago, Alam_dar said: Firstly, I don't agree with the figures of 20%. Indian Secularists and other minorities also against the CAA. Secondly, even if it is 20%, still you could not impose things upon the minorities which go against the basic human rights. OK, you may impose it like the Pakistani fanatics could also come up with all types of bills and laws which violate the basic human rights of Ahmadi Muslims and other minorities, but all such acts are shameful. Why should India take accountability of Pakistani or other subcontinent muslims if their countries created on bais of religion and brutalized the minorities and convert them forcibly in their own country. Why indi give those leeches leverage in India so that they can do same thing here. Secondly regarding 20% claim that's just exaggeration reality is other than fanatic muslim and foreign paid liberals no body loose their shits on CAA and NRC. Everybody in India is happy about it. India ia big country so even though there is laks of extremist and fanatics making these violent protest are in minuscule in number to bother about. India is democratic country and bill has been brought by an electrolal goverment as per our constitution. So not sure why a Pakistani should have any opinion on this. Regarding shameful stuff fanatic muslims and liberal shoul be ashamed of themselves to taking county hostage on account of violence and then extrimists and Pakistani like you endorsing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
someone Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 1 hour ago, gattaca said: Lol he is not racist but opportunistic. Simple difference. He will side with anyone who will help him win. He is not even republican to begin with. He is a demagogue. He calls himself the best friend of every community he sees and meets. And mind you, the Dems arent no different either. There is absolute zero positive campaign from both sizes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
someone Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 15 hours ago, Alam_dar said: As I stated before, pro Pakistan lobby is very weak in US. Democratic voters prefer India much more over Pakistan, while the Republican voters make fun of Indians and consider them less human beings. It is not an issue of Pro Pakistan lobby, but the issue is "Human Rights Situation" in India. If any Secular government comes in India instead of right wing BJP government, then these issues will be automatically solved. Pak lobby has traditionally been better than the India lobby. The pro-India lobby is playing a catch-up game now. Next, this pro-Pak lobby often interchanges with the larger and stronger pro-Muslim lobby. India lobby has a long way to go to match them.... Next, the secular card is not a birthright for USA nor Muslims. They dont and cannot hold a veto power in a sovereign nation. India gov currently is solving old problems, and CAA should have been long approved many decades ago. You see it was started by Congress itself... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alam_dar Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 1 hour ago, someone said: Pak lobby has traditionally been better than the India lobby. The pro-India lobby is playing a catch-up game now. Next, this pro-Pak lobby often interchanges with the larger and stronger pro-Muslim lobby. India lobby has a long way to go to match them.... Yes, I agree with you that there is a danger that Pakistani lobby also gets the support of the Muslim lobby. 1 hour ago, someone said: Next, the secular card is not a birthright for USA nor Muslims. They dont and cannot hold a veto power in a sovereign nation. India gov currently is solving old problems, and CAA should have been long approved many decades ago. You see it was started by Congress itself... CAA is very inhumane. Although congress started it, but congress has to oppose it itself, while the shape it took later, it was inhumane. These are not only Muslims, but United Nations and all the Human Rights Groups and all Liberals will always oppose such move like CAA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 5 hours ago, gattaca said: Lol he is not racist but opportunistic. Simple difference. He will side with anyone who will help him win. He is not even republican to begin with. And this is exactly the reason why on Global stage, He couldn't build an alliance against Huawei or China. Its only after Mike Pompeo took reigns, a coalition has started building. gattaca 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Alam_dar said: Yes, I agree with you that there is a danger that Pakistani lobby also gets the support of the Muslim lobby. CAA is very inhumane. Although congress started it, but congress has to oppose it itself, while the shape it took later, it was inhumane. These are not only Muslims, but United Nations and all the Human Rights Groups and all Liberals will always oppose such move like CAA. You should be ashamed for supporting killing of non Muslims in your country by arguing that Every Pakistani and Bangladeshi Muslim have fundamental right to Indian citizenship. So should be orgs which are keeping blind eye for few bucks. Such orgs have no place in 2020. Your Jihad is not even veiled in your argument. Please Go and preach Pakistan, not to butcher non Muslims. Gandhi Said: India has moral responsibility to attack Pakistan. if Muslims in Pakistan persecute non Muslims. Indian leaders do not have guts to attack Pakistan, so they are letting Pakistani Islamic state persecuted non Islamic people to live in India. Above should also be reminder to people like @vvvslaxman, If some racist are voting for Trump win then Jihadis are rooting for Trump loss, and by same logic not voting TRump is actually facilitating Jihad Edited July 24, 2020 by mishra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gattaca Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 1 hour ago, mishra said: And this is exactly the reason why on Global stage, He couldn't build an alliance against Huawei or China. Its only after Mike Pompeo took reigns, a coalition has started building. Have to agree with you on Pompeo he is the only guy who survived long and understands foreign policy and how to deal with China. mishra 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gattaca Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, Clarke said: You mean if the KKK makes a strong comeback he'll pander them for the votes All politicians are like that. In India modi is accused every time cow lynchings happen. Their is some support yes. Not saying this good. Even Democrats supports undocumented and the BLM. BLM is good if it was only civil movement but businesses getting burned and looted, hardworking business are loosing their livelihoods and the Whole community is loosing because of it. I haven’t heard voices from democrat side either to pacify and bring things to normal. Every one is in this it just about votes. All politicians have same blood. Edited July 24, 2020 by gattaca Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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