Who was technically most sound out of Tendulkar, Dravid and Gavaskar?

[zen]

1 minute ago, Jimmy Cliff said:

I didn't say you did. Just stating that he shied away from batting in the TO and was comfortable hiding in the MO at 5 and 6. If he was so good under pressure and in tough conditions why didn't he take on the challenge of batting in the top order where the conditions are truly tough? 

 

But no, he was comfortable batting in his cocoon at 5/6 and coming in after the opening bowlers were mostly done with their spells and the shine was taken off the new ball. And don't get me started off on his shtick of "trusting" the tailenders. Time has arrived to cancel Steve Waugh as a MO and red ink bully IMO. 

ok but note that even with such technique he has batted 5-6 tests in TO iirc  

 

 

[gattaca]

5 hours ago, Gollum said:

I started following cricket seriously only from around 2000...in '98 and '99 followed only occasionally.

 

Based on my viewing experience against seam and bounce I found Tendu better. Pace I will call it a tie, Dravid did prety well against genuine pace. Against spin in general Sachin was better but against offies I have to give the edge to Dravid, the way he would rock back on back foot and punch/cut against the spin was .

dravid was bunny for leg spin. He used to get out to shane warne quite a bit. Then enter VVS who taught dravid how to play leg spin at eden.

[Jimmy Cliff]

1 minute ago, zen said:

ok but note that even with such technique he has batted 5-6 tests in TO iirc  

 

 

Yep where he failed. Just as he failed resoundingly at 4 and ran away to 5/6 to protect his average . All batsmen who spent a bulk of their careers batting at 4 with any sort of success are braver and more courageous than Waugh .

[zen]

6 minutes ago, Jimmy Cliff said:

Yep where he failed. Just as he failed resoundingly at 4 and ran away to 5/6 to protect his average . All batsmen who spent a bulk of their careers batting at 4 with any sort of success are braver and more courageous than Waugh .

I understand the humour but will add it is ok to fail, accept that you are not that good in TO, and move down, then not take on the challenge despite the opportunities and pretend that you could be more successful than those doing the hard work early on

 

Not many claim Waugh to be the best anyways but appreciate him for what he brings to the table. 

[Jimmy Cliff]

15 minutes ago, zen said:

I understand the humour but will add it is ok to fail, accept that you are not that good in TO, and move down, then not take on the challenge despite the opportunities and pretend that you could be more successful than those doing the hard work early on

 

Not many claim Waugh to be the best anyways but appreciate him for what he brings to the table. 

I used to appreciate him a lot but the last couple of days have been eye opening for me . For all the hullabaloo about Waugh being the ice man and what not, he was actually a shirker who ran away from the challenge of the TO. Taylor and Slater might as well be considered war heroes for daring to open the innings in Tests unlike Waugh who was hiding in a bunker at 5/6.

[zen]

2 minutes ago, Jimmy Cliff said:

I used to appreciate him a lot but the last couple of days have been eye opening for me . For all the hullabaloo about Waugh being the ice man and what not, he was actually a shirker who ran away from the challenge of the TO. Taylor and Slater might as well be considered war heroes for daring to open the innings in Tests unlike Waugh who was hiding in a bunker at 5/6.

Ok but no claims that Waugh has the technique to be successful anywhere in the batting order or he is the greatest ever - if that were the case, ....   

 

[raki05]

2 hours ago, zen said:

ok but note that even with such technique he has batted 5-6 tests in TO iirc  

 

 

Dravid batted like tailunder in front of Mendis and Murali. 

[raki05]

1 hour ago, Jimmy Cliff said:

I used to appreciate him a lot but the last couple of days have been eye opening for me . For all the hullabaloo about Waugh being the ice man and what not, he was actually a shirker who ran away from the challenge of the TO. Taylor and Slater might as well be considered war heroes for daring to open the innings in Tests unlike Waugh who was hiding in a bunker at 5/6.

Going great keep it up...

[zen]

23 minutes ago, raki05 said:

Dravid batted like tailunder in front of Mendis and Murali. 

Do you mean this?

 

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Player	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	BF	SR	100	50	0	4s	6s
V Sehwag	3	6	1	344	201*	68.80	366	93.98	1	1	0	46	5
G Gambhir	3	6	0	310	74	51.66	568	54.57	0	3	0	40	0
VVS Laxman	3	6	1	215	61*	43.00	443	48.53	0	2	0	18	0
R Dravid	3	6	0	148	68	24.66	358	41.34	0	1	0	15	0
SC Ganguly	3	6	0	96	35	16.00	226	42.47	0	0	1	11	2
SR Tendulkar	3	6	0	95	31	15.83	155	61.29	0	0	0	11	0
I Sharma	3	6	3	35	17*	11.66	126	27.77	0	0	3	1	0
Harbhajan Singh	3	6	0	65	26	10.83	96	67.70	0	0	0	9	0
KD Karthik	2	4	0	36	20	9.00	55	65.45	0	0	1	2	2
Z Khan	3	6	1	43	32	8.60	129	33.33	0	0	1	3	1
PA Patel	1	2	0	14	13	7.00	44	31.81	0	0	0	1	0
A Kumble	3	6	0	29	12	4.83	100	29.00	0	0	0	3	0

[raki05]

4 hours ago, zen said:

Do you mean this?

 

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Player	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	BF	SR	100	50	0	4s	6s
V Sehwag	3	6	1	344	201*	68.80	366	93.98	1	1	0	46	5
G Gambhir	3	6	0	310	74	51.66	568	54.57	0	3	0	40	0
VVS Laxman	3	6	1	215	61*	43.00	443	48.53	0	2	0	18	0
R Dravid	3	6	0	148	68	24.66	358	41.34	0	1	0	15	0
SC Ganguly	3	6	0	96	35	16.00	226	42.47	0	0	1	11	2
SR Tendulkar	3	6	0	95	31	15.83	155	61.29	0	0	0	11	0
I Sharma	3	6	3	35	17*	11.66	126	27.77	0	0	3	1	0
Harbhajan Singh	3	6	0	65	26	10.83	96	67.70	0	0	0	9	0
KD Karthik	2	4	0	36	20	9.00	55	65.45	0	0	1	2	2
Z Khan	3	6	1	43	32	8.60	129	33.33	0	0	1	3	1
PA Patel	1	2	0	14	13	7.00	44	31.81	0	0	0	1	0
A Kumble	3	6	0	29	12	4.83	100	29.00	0	0	0	3	0

No I am talking about his batting in do overall. Help urself and see all his marvellous batting in sl.

http://www.sporting-heroes.net/cricket/india/rahul-dravid-2274/test-record-v-sri-lanka_a01196/

 

[Vilander]

On 7/24/2020 at 2:50 AM, FischerTal said:

Is this even a question?

 

hands down midget was the perfect Textbook batsman.. if not for tennis elbow and the whole fixing saga that affected his mental game, he would have achieved far greater heights. 

Which midget ? 

[Vilander]

OP: 

Tendulkar.

[FischerTal]

1 hour ago, Vilander said:

Which midget ? 

Which midget suffered from tennis elbow? :P

[FischerTal]

On 7/24/2020 at 1:52 AM, MechEng said:

I thought Dravid played swing/seam better than Tendulkar.

Who told you that?

[MechEng]

2 hours ago, FischerTal said:

Who told you that?

Jimmy Anderson over a phone call

[Stan AF]

 

[nevada]

On 7/24/2020 at 11:08 AM, Audiophile said:

Technically Tendulkar is more copybook than the other two. He had all the shots in his repertoire. Gavaskar did not have the backfoot game that SRT had. Also his weakness just outside the off stump was more prominent than SRT. SRT was supposed to be a freak, but did not live up to his potential compared to other modern day batsman.

I agree with your post but just wanted to say that being an opener,  Gavaskar was more susceptible to the moving ball.  Tendulkar never opened in test matches, so he might appear slightly better than he actually was.  

[Soorma_Bhopali]

Guys who have not seen Gavaskar bat live have missed a great experience. A short-statured opener on mostly greentops against 4-man super-fast Windies attack without helmet and creaming them was an experience not  seen later . My 1st cricket hero!!! I used to total his runs from 8848 onwards in 1985 till 10,122 in 1987 at his retirement test !!!

 

Technically , he was better test batsman than Tendulkar or Dravid also marginally as he used to give very little chance and most of his hundreds were chanceless .  

Edited August 2, 2020 by Soorma_Bhopali

[Straight Drive]

2 hours ago, Soorma_Bhopali said:

Guys who have not seen Gavaskar bat live have missed a great experience. A short-statured opener on mostly greentops against 4-man super-fast Windies attack without helmet and creaming them was an experience not  seen later . My 1st cricket hero!!! I used to total his runs from 8848 onwards in 1985 till 10,122 in 1987 at his retirement test !!!

 

Technically , he was better test batsman than Tendulkar or Dravid also marginally as he used to give very little chance and most of his hundreds were chanceless .  

It was all about Bedi, Chandra and Venkat . Sunny changed it all by becoming first batting superstar for our generation.

 

His partnership with Vishy to chase 400 odd to win test against Windies was the best. That and the partnership between Dravid and Laxman are the two best test match partnerships in Indian cricket ever. 

 

 

[rkt.india]

On 7/24/2020 at 4:50 PM, coffee_rules said:

Gavaskar

Aila

Dravid

 

you can’t have inferior technique, be an opener and average 50 in an era , where it is rare. Tendulkar might be on par, but was not tough mentally.  96 on a minefield against 2 spinners. Performance against pace quartet. People needed different set of skills to be successful in the 70s. Instead of batsmen who look like gladiators with broad heavy bats

Gavaskar hardly played against piace quarter.