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^ As predicted.

https://www.ft.com/content/58ed5d73-21ac-4733-9c3a-4092d6c5bfaf

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  Governments all over the world are studying an article that appeared last January headlined — “Why America Must Lead Again”. The author is one Joe Biden.

Mr Biden’s essay for Foreign Affairs laments that the Trump administration has “abdicated American leadership”. It promises that “the Biden foreign policy agenda will place the United States back at the head of the table”.

But it is much easier for the president-elect to talk about re-establishing American leadership than actually to deliver. The US is not as powerful as it once was. Simply rejoining international groups — the World Health Organization or the Paris climate accord — does not put America “at the head of the table”. The cost of participating in international negotiations may be accepting compromise outcomes that are unpopular in Washington. Whether that is a price that US politicians and voters will accept is not clear.

In Washington, the terms “American-led world order”, “liberal world order” and “rules-based order” often seem to be used interchangeably. That confusion is understandable. The post-second world war order was essentially designed by the US. There is a reason that the IMF and World Bank are based in Washington and the UN in New York. The collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991 only strengthened US hegemony.

Donald Trump came to power in 2016, claiming that international bodies such as the World Trade Organization no longer worked for America. The US had been hoodwinked and “globalists” were impoverishing ordinary Americans, he said. Strip away the Trumpian hyperbole and paranoia and there was a real point underneath the rhetoric. In a world in which power is more evenly distributed, a rules-based order and a US-led world are not the same thing.

That unresolved tension runs through the Biden approach to international affairs. In his Foreign Affairs article, Mr Biden asserts that “the US must lead the world” on climate change and promises that America will “convene a summit of the world’s major carbon emitters”. The single largest emitter is China. It seems highly unlikely that Beijing will meekly agree to show up at a US-convened summit — at which Mr Biden promises to “lock in enforceable commitments that will reduce emissions”.

Realistically, China and many others, will insist that the only proper forum for climate negotiations are UN-sponsored talks. Fortunately for the Biden administration, the next UN climate conference, COP26, will be chaired by a friendly country — the UK. Even so, the president-elect’s promise of enforceable commitments on emission-reduction may not be deliverable — not least in the US itself. America’s negotiating partners will know that Congress is likely to have the final say over any US promises. With the Republicans probably still in control of the Senate, the Biden administration would struggle to deliver.

Similar problems threaten to hobble the new president’s pledge that America will lead on trade. Mr Biden promises to resist “a dangerous global slide towards protectionism”. But he knows that Mr Trump’s hostility towards free trade strikes a chord with many American voters. The suspicion of new trade deals crosses party lines. In 2016, Hillary Clinton was forced to repudiate the Trans-Pacific Partnership, a far-reaching trade deal that she had helped to negotiate, because of hostility within her own Democratic party.

Mr Biden’s solution is to promise that “labour and environmental leaders” will be “at the table” from the beginning of any future American trade negotiations. But that could slow progress towards new trade deals to a crawl. Meanwhile, the world is moving on. This past weekend leaders from 15 Asia-Pacific nations — including Japan, China and South Korea — signed one of the largest free-trade deals in history. Mr Biden and his team talk a good game about rallying America’s friends to push back against China. But new facts are already being created on the ground.
 

The president-elect’s stress on working with allies, rather than confronting and abusing them as Mr Trump did, is clearly a good idea. But a more friendly American attitude is no guarantee of success — even in Europe.

The EU is pressing ahead with plans to increase regulation and taxation of US tech groups, such as Google and Amazon. The Biden administration, like the Trump administration, is likely to oppose many of these efforts. An early row over tech taxes or regulation could deflate hopes that a new age of transatlantic comity is at hand — or that “American leadership” is an easy answer to difficult problems of global governance.

John Ikenberry, a Princeton academic, who coined the phrase, the “liberal international order”, suggests in a new book that the idea of liberal internationalism needs to be separated from American hegemony. He argues that for the US, “in an era of declining American power, the value of co-operation with other liberal democracies should grow”. That is probably true. But it may be an easier argument to win in Princeton than in Washington, where sovereignty is still zealously guarded.

Mr Biden will find it hard to persuade Americans that the US can benefit from international engagement, without automatically taking the leadership role. But — on the plus side — America will no longer be actively destroying global institutions. That is reason enough for huge relief.

 

 

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So the supposedly “sane” wants to bully and intervene in other nations. A war monger.

 

While, the supposedly “bully” worked on world peace and non-intervention. Trump should have won “Noble prize” by the Obama standards.

 

And people talk about division, yet the Republicans side knew what the enemies are. The Dems, instead have ppl who refuse to condemn some terrorism.

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OK, to laugh or to cry.  That is the question:

 

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/02/politics/trump-presidential-pardon-children/index.html

 

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Beg your pardon?

It's something you ask of somebody else for something you've already done. And that, more or less, is how it's been viewed in the Constitution.
But each day brings new reporting about how President Donald Trump might creatively stretch and bend his expansive pardon power not just to protect himself but also to shield his children and his closest associates from future legal problems -- all moves that would test the spirit of the power and legal precedent.

Presidential pardon law is a joke.  Complete and total.

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Few things happened since Biden got elected.

1. Looks like Chinese are rubbing their hand with glee. Their State backed investors are again buying/investing in critical advanced US technology companies. Some Libdus argue whats wrong with investment keeping blind eye on fact that investment means influence.

 

2. EU already wants to have a say in US China war. Again Some Libdus saying that it will help in US vs China war then they need to get their heads checked. Trumps unilateral actions effectively forced EU to follow suit. So if you think EU offer is honest and genuine, then think again. China has got EU by balls by having deep influence in Eastern Europe.

 

3. EU's Digital taxation on American companies is back on agenda. During Trump years, EU had shunned the idea to avoid Trumps ire.

 

4. Finaly, China has stopped negotiating with India since Biden got elected. They are not going back. They have disqualified every leader in Hon Kong and their planes regularly violating Taiwan. At the same time , they have effed WTO by creatiung RCEP. US EU can not stop economic hegomony of Chinese among RCEP countries which means military too. And yes, those comments from Truedeu and  Farmrs  baseless protest is all linked. I can gurantee, New Delhi will have some sort of protest and riots till Biden cant rein in Chinese aggression or India allies with China.

 

 

So all the Indians who voted for Biden, They can now ask us to look at NASDAQ index. :adore:

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On 12/3/2020 at 11:12 AM, coffee_rules said:


I won’t trust CNN objectively reporting on Trump as much. Wait and watch. even Obama has had questionable pardons

So you won't trust objectively verifiable sources but willl trust righting gaslighting. I always thought indian ms were smarter than gullible right wing Americans but guess not

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On 11/17/2020 at 4:17 AM, mishra said:

I have said, watch how China makes mooves under Biden. Teo things happened since Biden won elections ( pending Court decisions)

 

1. China disqualified  all pro democracy elected memembers from Hongkong assembley

 

2. China got itself into worlds biggest free trade deal that includes Japan Australia South Korea, while Offer open for India.

 

So Xi is allready gaining. Dem lovers will keep justifying these moves as insignificant. What they don’t get is, point 2 happened despite Corona and US trade war.

 

BTW, India too is trying to reconcile itself of current Standoff. Just goes to show how little faith world has in effeciency of Biden Kamala Administration vis a vis China 

lamo this has to be the most delusoonal osot I have ever redd. China is moving fot that becauee they're cared shumit. Every singkr thing trump did helped china, helped US lose leadership and credibility and made China look legitimate 

 

I will reosat again, I thought ihdians were much smarter than gullible morninc Americans falling fir straight up propaganda 

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On 12/13/2020 at 6:54 AM, New guy said:

lamo this has to be the most delusoonal osot I have ever redd. China is moving fot that becauee they're cared shumit. Every singkr thing trump did helped china, helped US lose leadership and credibility and made China look legitimate 

 

I will reosat again, I thought ihdians were much smarter than gullible morninc Americans falling fir straight up propaganda 


 

read again. You may disagree with inferences butnot the story. Just today was story on Ft. 

https://www.ft.com/content/d9ac222d-90d8-4570-b89e-a99f1bd4829b

 

Not everyone just takes cnn  as news source.

 

China is pulling ahead. There are charts on that story too. Even comment section has a lot of info. Trump was blip in there jouney to Supremacy. Since Biden got elected, all curves and trend has gone back to what was before 5 years.

 

Also, use ur brain, markets incorporate the risk. In 2020, Biden was 7-10 percentage points ahead to be elected. This has shown in markets till last one month of election when people thought, Trump may win.

 

Biden is weak. Its prooven when he bent to Xi during Obama years.  He has not made a single statement apart from bs for gallery. 

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6 hours ago, Stan AF said:

https://www.thehindu.com/news/international/in-recorded-call-trump-pressures-georgia-election-official-to-change-results-washington-post/article33489596.ece

 

Not suprising at all. Democrats are idiots for playing it nice. They should really stick it to this orange basterd.

On a related note, it is hypocritical for the Dems to whine about Repub house members challenging the ratification of some EC votes.  Dems did the same thing in 2004 when GWB won Ohio.  Back then, Dems were saving democracy from the evil Repubs. Now the repubs are killing democracy with the same procedure?  Just BS political bluster. 

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