Those criticising Surayakumar’s exclusion from India squad should also tell who to keep out: Devang Gandhi

[Ankit_sharma03]

 

Presenting our Ex-selector 

 

Our t20 line up is filled with ppl having 130 around or lesser strike rate and he is still asking whom to drop, it shud be vice versa whom to keep . Most of these Ex cricketer have no idea what modern cricket is 

 

 

[Serpico]

Rohit responds to SKY's snub

 

Rohit also touched upon his IPL leadership and spoke about the freedom he gives his players by letting them evolve as individuals. He cited Suryakumar Yadav’s composure while dealing with India rejection as an example.

“We were sitting in our team room and I could feel he was dejected. But I didn’t go and speak to him. It was he who came up and said, ‘Don’t worry I will get over it and win the matches for MI’

“And when he said that I also realised he is heading in right direction not only in terms of IPL but in his overall career. There are a lot of India games and his time will come.

 

https://sportstar.thehindu.com/cricket/india-tour-of-australia/india-vs-australia-rohit-sharma-hamstring-injury-ipl-2020-mumbai-indians/article33148325.ece

[Lone Wolf]

I can clearly look at Manish Pandey..  WTH he has done anything special to merit a spot in the squad.   If selectors have issues with Surya's age then Manish is also I guess 31 years old. 

Our selectors are clearly brainless in every aspect.  

 

 

[Forever Indian]

Manish Pandey and Shreyas Iyer can easily be replaced with him Mr. Gandhi

[Majestic]

When the selection was made, runs scored by Shreyas Iyer, Manish Pandey, SKY and Samson in IPL 2020 were almost similar.

 

Iyer is a captain of DC franchise team and plays in the first Indian T20 XI, so he had to be picked in the squad.

 

Pandey also played the last international T20 game for India and had a good series I think. Just before selection, he played a knock vs RR when Acher knocked out Warner and Bairstow in 2 overs and he won them from there. So, overall on that basis, he got the nod ahead of SKY.

 

Just one night before the selection was made, Samson chased down 190 with Ben Stokes in the chase vs MI and he was anyways in the spotlight for not getting selected even after doing well for years in IPL.

 

Now tell me, what is the selectors mistake if they left out SKY? Obviously things would have been different had that knock vs RCB where he smashed Kohli and his boyz came just before announcement of selection of team.

 

Now that IPL 2020 is over, we can say that SKY did better than Iyer, MP and SS this season but the same can't be said till that selection day. There is no point bitting the bullet anymore. SKY will have to wait a bit, his time will come next time.

 

 

Edited November 21, 2020 by Majestic

[Gollum]

Such a huge squad. Couldn't they accommodate one more?

 

This MSK selection panel was the worst ever of its kind, and not just Indian cricket. The world will never see another such bunch of inept morons in charge of selection duties sans accountability. Bar is so low that next panel needn't do much to earn plaudits. 

[Ankit_sharma03]

13 minutes ago, Majestic said:

 

Now that IPL 2020 is over, we can say that SKY did better than Iyer, MP and SS this season but the same can't be said till that selection day. There is no point bitting the bullet anymore. SKY will have to wait a bit, his time will come next time.

 

 

Did better is when u look at just plain numbers . This is why our selection mindset is wrong we look at numbers and name rather we shud look at role, its a classic example why RCB has sucked falling for big names n teams like CSK n MI have done well coz they look for players who do the role well. 

In this team u need someone like SKY then pandey/ iyer.....ideally one shud be there not 2 , as u go lower in order u need player who can score quickly. 

This is why we ll never be champion - this mentality he has number so lets reward....wait ask urself whats the impact and can he do the role we need ?This is why our batsman s/r are dropping in IPL coz they are just looking to get big numbers

 

SKY has been doing well for few yrs now and one of those rare batsman who can score quickly , we are desperate in need for such batsman in t20

Edited November 21, 2020 by Ankit_sharma03

[Majestic]

12 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

 

Did better is when u look at just plain numbers . This is why our selection mindset is wrong we look at numbers and name rather we shud look at role, its a classic example why RCB has sucked falling for big names n teams like CSK n MI have done well coz they look for players who do the role well. 

In this team u need someone like SKY then pandey/ iyer.....ideally one shud be there not 2 , as u go lower in order u need player who can score quickly. 

This is why we ll never be champion - this mentality he has number so lets reward....wait ask urself whats the impact and can he do the role we need ?This is why our batsman s/r are dropping in IPL coz they are just looking to get big numbers

 

SKY has been doing well for few yrs now and one of those rare batsman who can score quickly , we are desperate in need for such batsman in t20

It is easy to say now that SKY will do better than Iyer and Pandey in T20 team at no.4 based on the performances that he came up with after selection was made. But it was not crystal clear the day the selection was made.

 

It is very hard for selectors to axe Iyer or Pandey from T20 squad who were having very good season till that point and did a good job when they played international cricket last time. If they would have axed Pandey from T20 squad and if he had come up with another performance like he did vs RR, then fans would have said that he was in good form and he was part of Indian T20 squad as well and yet he was sacked for no reasons and selectors have ended his international career. 

 

Having said that, they did picked Sanju Samson and with him and Pandya, they have given enough explosive options for the captain and T.M to chose from. Next time when selection will be made, SKY will be in serious contention, could have been now only had that RCB knock came few days before.

[Ankit_sharma03]

4 minutes ago, Majestic said:

It is easy to say now that SKY will do better than Iyer and Pandey in T20 team at no.4 based on the performances that he came up with after selection was made. But it was not crystal clear the day the selection was made.

 

1st of all there is no guarntee that who ll do better

Guys like Pant,kishen, SKY are right choices in 1st place if they dont do well go to next. Iyer and pandey together is a wrong choice . Its about selecting right kind of players 

 

4 minutes ago, Majestic said:

 

It is very hard for selectors to axe Iyer or Pandey from T20 squad who were having very good season till that point and did a good job when they played international cricket last time. If they would have axed Pandey from T20 squad and if he had come up with another performance like he did vs RR, then fans would have said that he was in good form and he was part of Indian T20 squad as well and yet he was sacked for no reasons and selectors have ended his international career. 

 

 

Those fans shud also look that pandey scores for SRH at 3, he wont get that spot in Indian team 

 

4 minutes ago, Majestic said:

Having said that, they did picked Sanju Samson and with him and Pandya, they have given enough explosive options for the captain and T.M to chose from. Next time when selection will be made, SKY will be in serious contention, could have been now only had that RCB knock came few days before.

 

Sanju is not a lower middle order player he is a top 3 player 

[Majestic]

26 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

 

1st of all there is no guarntee that who ll do better

Guys like Pant,kishen, SKY are right choices in 1st place if they dont do well go to next. Iyer and pandey together is a wrong choice . Its about selecting right kind of players 

 

 

 

Those fans shud also look that pandey scores for SRH at 3, he wont get that spot in Indian team 

 

 

Sanju is not a lower middle order player he is a top 3 player 

 

Do you think Sanju will ever be able to merit a place in top 3 in Indian T20 team? Remember, Sanju fans were literally badmouthing Rishabh Pant day and night and also selectors for backing Pant. Now they have got what they want.

 

I would like the Indian team to play Iyer at 4, Sanju at 5 and Pandya at 6 in T20 team. That is the only way Sanju can cement his place in Indian T20 team.

 

What this will do is Sanju will get three games to either merit his place or make way for SKY because there is no way Sanju is going to find a place in top 3 in Indian T20 team.

 

Having said that, it is very much possible that they may play Iyer and Pandey both in middle order in the first T20 itself which will obviously be a wrong move.

 

 

 

 

Edited November 21, 2020 by Majestic

[Ankit_sharma03]

1 minute ago, Majestic said:

 

Do you think Sanju will ever be able to merit a place in top 3 in Indian T20 team? I would like the Indian team to play Iyer at 4, Sanju at 5 and Pandya at 6 in T20 team. That is the only way Sanju can cement his place in Indian team.

 

Sanju is like rohit his runs come in top 3 only, he can try but i dnt think it ll work for him

 

1 minute ago, Majestic said:

 

What this will do is Sanju will get three games to either merit his place or make way for SKY because there is no way Sanju is going to find a place in top 3 in Indian T20 team.

 

Both shud be considered for diff roles

Sanju top 3

sky 5-6

 

again dont fall for name, identify players for roles 

 

 

[Serpico]

1 hour ago, Majestic said:

But it was not crystal clear the day the selection was made.

Or they could have waited until ipl has ended to announce their selections. nobody gave them deadline to announce the squad exactly on the day they did

 

besides, the SR problem with pandey isn't new. Any reasonable cricket analyst should have figured out by now that pandey is a top 3 player and his style of batting cannot work below 3. Hell SRH management has figured it out already, which is why they sent him at 3 ahead of Kane, even though kane is much superior top order batsman. Our selectors are just too dumb/biased to figure out such obvious things, there is no other way around it

[Suhaan]

Iyer is the most mediocre of this lot,he just has to issue big talks nothing else

 

Sometime back when he wasn't on the radar said,it hurts to when you are kept out,it was laughable then ,he looked all at sea against decent quicks to issue such statements with sense of entitlement is so ridiculous coming from a not so special player like him

Iyer is baggage which we are carrying,im afraid he is been projected as future leader,atleast before we had best players been projected as leaders

Iyer is no where near being our best player

Atleast doesn't deserve a go in t20 setup,his odi place too should come under strict scrutiny,he should be at his toes for his place can be grabbed by someone else deserving very much like others who have been under the pump before

[Majestic]

51 minutes ago, Serpico said:

Or they could have waited until ipl has ended to announce their selections. nobody gave them deadline to announce the squad exactly on the day they did

 

besides, the SR problem with pandey isn't new. Any reasonable cricket analyst should have figured out by now that pandey is a top 3 player and his style of batting cannot work below 3. Hell SRH management has figured it out already, which is why they sent him at 3 ahead of Kane, even though kane is much superior top order batsman. Our selectors are just too dumb/biased to figure out such obvious things, there is no other way around it

Yeah, they should have waited but maybe they would have certain priorities set. I don't think this is the first time they made the selection before IPL season got completed.

 

On Kane batting at 4, I think that was a smart tactic by SRH. But they didn't send Pandey at 3 ahead of Kane because of S/R issues. They sent Pandey ahead of Kane because their lower middle order was weak and with Kane at 4, SRH will atleast win the games that they are supposed to win like the one vs RCB. However, if Pandey bats at 4, he will score 30-40 and then throw his wicket.

Edited November 21, 2020 by Majestic

[Ankit_sharma03]

1 hour ago, Suhaan said:

Iyer is the most mediocre of this lot,he just has to issue big talks nothing else

 

his biggest test is coming Australia 

 

[Suhaan]

1 minute ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

 

his biggest test is coming Australia 

 

Australia generally play their fringe biwlers in odis and preserve their best bowlers for tests ,yeah it maybe his test but he has evolved that much to tackle those bowlers would love someone bowling 145+ at him and see how he does against them on bouncy surfaces (not happens anymore)

[Ankit_sharma03]

2 minutes ago, Suhaan said:

Australia generally play their fringe biwlers in odis and preserve their best bowlers for tests ,yeah it maybe his test but he has evolved that much to tackle those bowlers would love someone bowling 145+ at him and see how he does against them on bouncy surfaces (not happens anymore)

 

Cummins, Starc, Hazelwood are in squad and this time i expect not to go easy on us 

[maniac]

Manish Pandey and Shreyas Iyer have been topping  domestic charts for many many years in all formats. In IPL they have been alright, if SKY played 2-3 great knocks so did Pandey and Iyer led his team to the finals. Sure SKY has been consistent and is next in line and will 100% get his chance. If he doesn’t get a shot when a slot opens up that would definitely be gross injustice.
 

If any of the player in the squad is dropped to accommodate him that would be injustice to them as well.

 

It’s different if he comes in as a substitute or injury replacement.  we always seem to find a new savior in a flavor of the month. If you look at bashing bowlers in IPL or domestic cricket, Iyer and Pandey look a class apart too and they are not total failures at the big stage that people are making them out to be. 
 

Give them a few more games before bringing in the next guy.

[maniac]

2 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

 

Cummins, Starc, Hazelwood are in squad and this time i expect not to go easy on us 

you think SKY will start bashing them or will look any different than an Iyer or Pandey?

 

Dont tell me what you wish for but seriously if you had to put money there?

 

He might but quality wise don’t think there is anything that much standout about him when compared to be it Iyer,Pandey or even Rayudu,Jadhav,DK (at their best)

[Ankit_sharma03]

17 minutes ago, maniac said:

you think SKY will start bashing them or will look any different than an Iyer or Pandey?

 

They all will look different from each other, Lets see what sky can do 

We already know what manish can do 

 

SKy neways i hve never said in ODI but in t20 only one shud play iyer or manish not both, about smashing yea right if those both cud their s/r wud have been in 140s 

 

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Dont tell me what you wish for but seriously if you had to put money there?

 

Its not black or white coz none are complete player so u choose what u lack. 

Simple team build strategy lets say what MI do , they lacked an opening wkt takiing bowler so they went for boult n needed someone who cud bat also at 8 so NCN

 

i hve explained 100 times u select players who can do roles not names .

Manish pandey is better at 3 international t20 bat then sky but same sky becomes better when batting position is 5 

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He might but quality wise don’t think there is anything that much standout about him when compared to be it Iyer,Pandey or even Rayudu,Jadhav,DK (at their best)

 

They all have their strength and weakness but none are complete like KL , Kohli or Rohit but u hve to choose

 

Iyer problem is hard length n quick spin, seam n swing

Rayudu - pace , bounce, swing , seam 

Jadhav - hard length 

DK - temperament and now Leg spin 

Manish problem is spin, seam n swing

 

u gotta see what team needs, t20 side needs quicki scorer which is where sky goes ahead . One among iyer or manish shud play not both

Edited November 21, 2020 by Ankit_sharma03