gakgupta Posted January 23, 2021 Posted January 23, 2021 Well Considering all the formats.... Considering Bowling, Batting and Fielding... I think...he is best in the world now... Some might say.."ben stokes"....but he is more of a batting allrounder.... Jadeja after this australia tour...will be considered as a "Most complete Allrounder" AuxiliA and raki05 2
Majestic Posted January 23, 2021 Posted January 23, 2021 Ben Stokes has won his team a World Cup with an ATG knock in finals, so offcourse its Ben Stokes across all formats. Shakib is No.2 if we are talking all formats. Jadeja is no.3 because in OdIs, the investment made on him has been massive. Selectors kept persisting with him for years after years.
Lone Wolf Posted January 23, 2021 Posted January 23, 2021 Ben Stokes & holder to an extent. Jaddu is nearly there as well. Top 3 for me. express bowling 1
putrevus Posted January 23, 2021 Posted January 23, 2021 Stokes can rarely win matches with ball. Jadeja needs to improve with bat but he is right up there. Holder has regressed he needs to improve his stroke play for other formats. Jadeja is the best allrounder in subcontinent conditions and Stokes in SENA. raki05 1
Serpico Posted January 23, 2021 Posted January 23, 2021 Jadeja is not a good allrounder in LOIs. His bowling is just not good enough on its own in ODIs/T20s and he is not a top order batsman either (although I believe he is good enough to play in top order right now). Stokes can make english ODI team as a batsman alone and his bowling is a decent bonus. Shakib can make into BD team on his bowling/batting alone
putrevus Posted January 23, 2021 Posted January 23, 2021 Jajdeja currently will make Indian team as batsman and bowler. He is absolute match winner with ball in test cricket in Asian conditions which no other allrounder can claim.Jadeja is 1000 times better bowler than Shakib.Shakib is better batsman but overall Jadeja brings more to the team.Stokes is not capable of winning the match as a bowler in any conditions. Stokes is a batsman who can bowl. express bowling, AuxiliA and raki05 3
QuarantineTormentino Posted January 23, 2021 Posted January 23, 2021 I think we can say that Shakib-Holder-Jadeja-Stokes are the quartet of this generation, like Kapil-Botham-Imran-Hadlee quartet of the 80s and 90s raki05 1
Serpico Posted January 23, 2021 Posted January 23, 2021 24 minutes ago, putrevus said: Jadeja is 1000 times better bowler than Shakib I think you're overreacting a little here
Majestic Posted January 23, 2021 Posted January 23, 2021 7 minutes ago, QuarantineTormentino said: I think we can say that Shakib-Holder-Jadeja-Stokes are the quartet of this generation, like Kapil-Botham-Imran-Hadlee quartet of the 80s and 90s Neither of them ATGs though. Also, those guys were brilliant in ODIs too.
putrevus Posted January 23, 2021 Posted January 23, 2021 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Serpico said: I think you're overreacting a little here When Shakib does anything against big team , we will talk. What the hell has Shakib done as a bowler against any big team.Jadeja averages 21 with 150 plus wickets in India and Shakib over 31 in Bangladesh. Jadeja as a testbowler in Indian conditions is not just great, he is ATG bowler. There is no comparsion between Jadeja the bowler and Shakib. Edited January 23, 2021 by putrevus AuxiliA, raki05 and Laaloo 3
Adamant Posted January 23, 2021 Posted January 23, 2021 1.Stokes 2.Shakib 3.Jadeja 4.Holder 5.Jamieson
Serpico Posted January 23, 2021 Posted January 23, 2021 32 minutes ago, putrevus said: When Shakib does anything against big team , we will talk Obviously he doesn't get to play enough tests against big teams. He still hasn't played even one match in Australia for example, even though he's playing for more than a decade. Still he took a matchwinning 10fer against australia and even made 84 in the same match. That's the most all-round performance in this era
R!TTER Posted January 23, 2021 Posted January 23, 2021 (edited) Jadeja is the preeminent test match A/R for at least the 6 years, not just post 2016 - his runs against SA in 2015 were crucial to our win, not to mention his vital wickets every time SA were looking to break out. View overall figures [change view] Start of match date greater than or equal to 1 Jan 2015 Qualifications four wickets in an inns greater than or equal to 06 and scores of fifty or more greater than or equal to 10 Page 1 of 1 Showing 1 - 6 of 6 Return to query menu Overall figures Player Span Mat Runs HS Bat Av 100 Wkts BBI Bowl Av 5 Ct St Ave Diff BA Stokes (ENG) 2015-2020 61 4149 258 39.14 9 136 6/22 31.16 3 74 0 7.97 MM Ali (ENG) 2015-2019 53 2496 155* 28.68 4 159 6/53 37.77 4 28 0 -9.08 JO Holder (WI) 2015-2020 43 2024 202* 32.12 3 113 6/42 27.86 7 40 0 4.25 RL Chase (WI) 2016-2020 37 1869 137* 29.20 5 71 8/60 42.29 3 15 0 -13.09 RA Jadeja (INDIA) 2015-2021 39 1590 100* 42.97 1 175 7/48 22.76 7 27 0 20.20 R Ashwin (INDIA) 2015-2021 51 1511 118 23.98 2 263 7/59 23.66 18 16 0 0.31 Edited January 23, 2021 by R!TTER express bowling and raki05 2
Majestic Posted January 23, 2021 Posted January 23, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, R!TTER said: Jadeja is the preeminent test match A/R for at least the 6 years, not just post 2016 - his runs against SA in 2015 were crucial to our win, not to mention his vital wickets every time SA were looking to break out. View overall figures [change view] Start of match date greater than or equal to 1 Jan 2015 Qualifications four wickets in an inns greater than or equal to 06 and scores of fifty or more greater than or equal to 10 Page 1 of 1 Showing 1 - 6 of 6 Return to query menu Overall figures Player Span Mat Runs HS Bat Av 100 Wkts BBI Bowl Av 5 Ct St Ave Diff BA Stokes (ENG) 2015-2020 61 4149 258 39.14 9 136 6/22 31.16 3 74 0 7.97 MM Ali (ENG) 2015-2019 53 2496 155* 28.68 4 159 6/53 37.77 4 28 0 -9.08 JO Holder (WI) 2015-2020 43 2024 202* 32.12 3 113 6/42 27.86 7 40 0 4.25 RL Chase (WI) 2016-2020 37 1869 137* 29.20 5 71 8/60 42.29 3 15 0 -13.09 RA Jadeja (INDIA) 2015-2021 39 1590 100* 42.97 1 175 7/48 22.76 7 27 0 20.20 R Ashwin (INDIA) 2015-2021 51 1511 118 23.98 2 263 7/59 23.66 18 16 0 0.31 Plenty of not outs for Jaddu in tests. Edited January 23, 2021 by Majestic
R!TTER Posted January 23, 2021 Posted January 23, 2021 The flip side to that is he's not had the opportunity to bat higher up, like Stokes, & he definitely can do that in Asia. He can bat in the top 5 in Asia today & if he did over the last 3-4 years he'd easily score 500-1000 more runs than what he actually did. Cricspin 1
coffee_rules Posted January 24, 2021 Posted January 24, 2021 (edited) I don’t care about others, I am glad Jadeja plays for India and we don’t have to search or invent all-rounders esp in Test cricket Edited January 24, 2021 by coffee_rules express bowling 1
Lone Wolf Posted January 24, 2021 Posted January 24, 2021 13 hours ago, putrevus said: When Shakib does anything against big team , we will talk. What the hell has Shakib done as a bowler against any big team.Jadeja averages 21 with 150 plus wickets in India and Shakib over 31 in Bangladesh. Jadeja as a testbowler in Indian conditions is not just great, he is ATG bowler. There is no comparsion between Jadeja the bowler and Shakib. Shakib has a double ton in NZ. BD doesn't get to tour big countries often. I too think his prime his over but he is/was one of the Top A/R of this decafe
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