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6 minutes ago, Gollum said:

Good that I avoided chit-chat for so long before tics bhai quoted me in that Ertugrul thread. So much suffering man, takes a mental toll

Totally understandable!

 

But, if too many Hindus stay silent and close their eyes, the issues aren't going to magically disappear. A section of Hindu community has to take up the dirty job.

 

 

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Not an isolated incident, more videos of some of these extremists spitting on fruits, bread etc. before selling to us kafirs. Even IS India branch asked them to do this, contaminate water/food supply to non-Muslim households post corona outbreak. Do these people follow those ISIS instructions?

 

Imagine the plight of the Hindu family that hired him.......

 

Meerut: Naushad arrested for spitting on Tandoori Rotis while cooking at wedding after video goes viral

 

 

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41 minutes ago, Gollum said:

Not an isolated incident, more videos of some of these extremists spitting on fruits, bread etc. before selling to us kafirs. Even IS India branch asked them to do this, contaminate water/food supply to non-Muslim households post corona outbreak. Do these people follow those ISIS instructions?

 

Imagine the plight of the Hindu family that hired him.......

 

Meerut: Naushad arrested for spitting on Tandoori Rotis while cooking at wedding after video goes viral

 

 

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Unfairly targeting minorities. Maybe he had oil in his mouth  and marinating the rotis with oil. As both hands were so busy making rotis. Unfair labor laws overworked minorities 

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19 minutes ago, Gollum said:

Not an isolated incident, more videos of some of these extremists spitting on fruits, bread etc. before selling to us kafirs. Even IS India branch asked them to do this, contaminate water/food supply to non-Muslim households post corona outbreak. Do these people follow those ISIS instructions?

 

Imagine the plight of the Hindu family that hired him.......

 

Meerut: Naushad arrested for spitting on Tandoori Rotis while cooking at wedding after video goes viral

 

 

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Economic boycott is an absolute must.

 

Imagine the mindset of this Muslim guy who thinks spitting on rotis in a Hindu wedding is normal.

 

These savages then have the balls to play the victim card in India. In any normal society, this guy would have been dead by now.

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Dara Hua Musalman entering homes and breaking idols and molesting women.

 

I'm sorry but are Hindus in the North napumsaks?

 

If Muslims did this in Andhra, their entire ghetto will be attacked.

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Maybeee just maybe if Hindus treated their own people without caste hierarchy then the hatred may reduce. Just an idea.
I am sorry, but are you saying that PFI killing RSS or the killing of Rinku Sharma has something to do with caste?

What about mocking the indic gods on Prime and Netflix? Does that have something to to with caste?

Logic please.
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4 hours ago, Yoda-esque said:

I am sorry, but are you saying that PFI killing RSS or the killing of Rinku Sharma has something to do with caste?

What about mocking the indic gods on Prime and Netflix? Does that have something to to with caste?

Logic please.

There are incidents on both sides. If we want to talk about this then it should start with addressing the issues in the concept religion as a whole. As long as Religion exists, there will always be a hierarchy between Religion and within religion ( Hindu Vs Muslim, Upper caste Vs Dalits, Shia Vs Sunni etc). 

I can give examples of Muslims being targeted, Dalits being targeted but it will just lead to more whataboutery. You will then talk about Kashmiri Hindus.The argument will go on and on.

 

When it comes to portraying religion, Muslims have been depicted as terrorrists for a long time. If you have a long beard and wear a cap, you can't even get a house for rent in many places due to the negative stereotype. 

 

As I said this is a circular argument, this will just lead to Hindus here giving more examples of how they are "Ill treated" and for every example I can give a counter example. 

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6 hours ago, ash said:

There are incidents on both sides. If we want to talk about this then it should start with addressing the issues in the concept religion as a whole. As long as Religion exists, there will always be a hierarchy between Religion and within religion ( Hindu Vs Muslim, Upper caste Vs Dalits, Shia Vs Sunni etc). 

I can give examples of Muslims being targeted, Dalits being targeted but it will just lead to more whataboutery. You will then talk about Kashmiri Hindus.The argument will go on and on.

 

When it comes to portraying religion, Muslims have been depicted as terrorrists for a long time. If you have a long beard and wear a cap, you can't even get a house for rent in many places due to the negative stereotype. 

 

As I said this is a circular argument, this will just lead to Hindus here giving more examples of how they are "Ill treated" and for every example I can give a counter example. 

 

That's precisely what you did here in order to deflect from the problem being discussed in this thread. 

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That's precisely what you did here in order to deflect from the problem being discussed in this thread. 
Was about to state the same, but nevermind.:p

I think I know where this discussion will lead to so dropping it.
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6 hours ago, ash said:

There are incidents on both sides. If we want to talk about this then it should start with addressing the issues in the concept religion as a whole. As long as Religion exists, there will always be a hierarchy between Religion and within religion ( Hindu Vs Muslim, Upper caste Vs Dalits, Shia Vs Sunni etc). 

I can give examples of Muslims being targeted, Dalits being targeted but it will just lead to more whataboutery. You will then talk about Kashmiri Hindus.The argument will go on and on.

 

When it comes to portraying religion, Muslims have been depicted as terrorrists for a long time. If you have a long beard and wear a cap, you can't even get a house for rent in many places due to the negative stereotype. 

 

As I said this is a circular argument, this will just lead to Hindus here giving more examples of how they are "Ill treated" and for every example I can give a counter example. 


May be it has to do with the SC which has multiple religions and culture being split on basis of only one religion

 

or it could be blowing up the WTC in the heart of the worlds financial capital or attempting to bomb the pentagon

 

or incidents like Mumbai blast, 26/11, cartoonist getting beheaded, London bombing etc.

 

I know all “isolated” incidents. 

Posted
6 hours ago, ash said:

There are incidents on both sides. If we want to talk about this then it should start with addressing the issues in the concept religion as a whole. As long as Religion exists, there will always be a hierarchy between Religion and within religion ( Hindu Vs Muslim, Upper caste Vs Dalits, Shia Vs Sunni etc). 

I can give examples of Muslims being targeted, Dalits being targeted but it will just lead to more whataboutery. You will then talk about Kashmiri Hindus.The argument will go on and on.

 

When it comes to portraying religion, Muslims have been depicted as terrorrists for a long time. If you have a long beard and wear a cap, you can't even get a house for rent in many places due to the negative stereotype. 

 

As I said this is a circular argument, this will just lead to Hindus here giving more examples of how they are "Ill treated" and for every example I can give a counter example. 


It is just one of those mysteries about our times that perhaps folks 50 years down the line could understand explain and laugh at. 
 

We are willing to perform verbal and logical gymnastics to circumnavigate the problem. The funny part is that there is no ambiguity on facts. Context, numbers and even concerned set of persons are taking responsibility and even taking pride in having these views and backing their actions. 
 

But for some odd reason, we will keep going around the problem all the time. This is why I respect the French. On first principles, they are clear and no amount of false equivalence will make them give up on first principles. 

Posted
12 minutes ago, maniac said:


May be it has to do with the SC which has multiple religions and culture being split on basis of only one religion

 

or it could be blowing up the WTC in the heart of the worlds financial capital or attempting to bomb the pentagon

 

or incidents like Mumbai blast, 26/11, cartoonist getting beheaded, London bombing etc.

 

I know all “isolated” incidents. 

As I said this will lead to whataboutery. If I google I can give you 5 examples from past month only of Dalits being killed or Tortured. Both sides can quote examples and both sides think their religion is comparatively "better", or in some cases they think their side has done nothing wrong ( pretty sure many in this forum fall under this)

 

you guys are not ready to introspect. If you think that depicting muslims as terrorrists is not wrong because they "deserve it", but still find problems with a film like Article 15 then the argument is pointless. 

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2 minutes ago, ash said:

As I said this will lead to whataboutery. If I google I can give you 5 examples from past month only of Dalits being killed or Tortured. Both sides can quote examples and both sides think their religion is comparatively "better", or in some cases they think their side has done nothing wrong ( pretty sure many in this forum fall under this)

 

you guys are not ready to introspect. If you think that depicting muslims as terrorrists is not wrong because they "deserve it", but still find problems with a film like Article 15 then the argument is pointless. 


There is no whataboutery here. If Dalits are being massacred as you claim, no one justifies that. 
 

However evil “upper caste ” kills dalits but it’s ok for poor temple priests to die of starvation or everything and any social evil to be attributed to higher castes.

 

On the flip side you can’t point out the radical part of Islam which is creating a nuisance all over the world.

 

You have a problem with someone having issues with a movie or banning it but no one wants to talk about Rushdie, Taslima, Da Vinci Code etc. can you tell me the chronology here? 

 

Hindu should not be offended but others can?

 

This is the hypocrisy people are fed up with. I can’t speak for all but I don’t have problems with Muslims, Dalits etc, I know some great people personally and some famous people I admire and it’s a no brainer that I don’t agree with any innocent being tortured or killed or their rights taken away.

 

The whataboutery seems to come from the other side. All the Hindu has been asking is to leave him alone just like you would the others. Majority  find BJP to provide that, as simple as that. If there is a better alternative that is secular and democratic in the truest and purest sense then of course people will vote fo them.

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