beetle Posted February 16, 2021 Posted February 16, 2021 What does it take to become a ' climate change activist'? Apparantly Dia mirza is one too...all it takes is a few tweets. dial_100, diga and coffee_rules 3
beetle Posted February 16, 2021 Posted February 16, 2021 How does climate change activism and farming go hand in hand ?This is mindless hypocricy. Does stubble burning get some extra brownie points? dial_100 1
bharathh Posted February 16, 2021 Posted February 16, 2021 9 hours ago, Under_Score said: So much Hungama by bjp & it's supporters over this toolkit as if a Nuclear missile is on it's way to Modi's house The ruling party mis-handling of this farmer's protest is the reason why it's being brought to the world notice by outsiders. this means that the ruling party is bringing bad name to India at Int'l level. I'm just curious as to what new 'name' will be given to Disha Ravi who hails from B'lore Did you read the contents of the "toolkit"? It is shameful that Indians are up in arms to support "environmentalists" who wants to topple an elected govt and support stubble burning. What kind of "envrionmentalist" stands for massive air pollution? The sad part is India needs a strong opposition. Instead we only have muppets.
G_B_ Posted February 16, 2021 Posted February 16, 2021 I love how western media outlets described Disha as vegan as a positive quality. Most indians are practically vegan (sans the milk based products). Typical indian diet is plant based foods. Before the non veg brigade (i too eat meat) comes posturing with maps of how most people are non veg etc, per capita yearly meat consumption is 3kg in india and fish consumption 4kg. Spread over 365 days that suggests most days you dont consume any meat.
Austin 3:!6 Posted February 16, 2021 Author Posted February 16, 2021 So much Hungama by bjp & it's supporters over this toolkit as if a Nuclear missile is on it's way to Modi's house :facepalm:The ruling party mis-handling of this farmer's protest is the reason why it's being brought to the world notice by outsiders. this means that the ruling party is bringing bad name to India at Int'l level. I'm just curious as to what new 'name' will be given to Disha Ravi who hails from B'lore One of the objective mentioned on the toolkit was - "Damage the Yoga and Tea culture of India". Can you tell us what has farmers protest got to do with damaging Indian culture? Is that not blasphemy?There were also plans of how to continue the protests even if govt remove all 3 farm bills. Why would they plan to keep the protest going if the farm bills are removed?So its obvious farm bills were a springboard for more deeper agenda. Had Greta Thurnberg not mistakenly tweet that toolkit, no one would have known anything.Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk beetle, Number, dial_100 and 1 other 4
Trichromatic Posted February 16, 2021 Posted February 16, 2021 @Yoda-esque @Under_Score Please stop name calling. If there is so much tension related to each others view, then avoid replying. dial_100 and velu 2
Glory to india Posted February 16, 2021 Posted February 16, 2021 Sad days in India Was massive modi fan. But now no more. Him and Shah gone power crazy and making india nasty place. Following Trump play book of create hate and divide, its working as many sane people suddenly in favors of bully tactics and unjust use of authority and misuse of public bodies. In world now era of ultra fake patriotism and jigonisitc attitudes now prevail, those who were slightly right of center becoming hard right and intolerant Starting to become like russia under putin or china now. All know this girls is harmless and not done anything illlegal. yet many happy she arrested just to teach lessons to anyone whose opinion they disagree with this. Modi and Shah no principles and all about power and making money. As shown by bizarre coalition they had with separatists in Kashmir all to have power and make $$! Interesting if Modi popularity peaked or this is beginning of drop. Think he will carry on garnering popularity as indian voters not the smartest and also oppo is a joke as well! MechEng and Under_Score 2
bharathh Posted February 16, 2021 Posted February 16, 2021 ? How has Modi made the current climate the way it has? The ppl that are happy to divide and cause communal are the opposition. You take the farmers protest or CAA or 370. Which in your opinion is divisive?
MechEng Posted February 16, 2021 Posted February 16, 2021 28 minutes ago, Glory to india said: Sad days in India Was massive modi fan. But now no more. Him and Shah gone power crazy and making india nasty place. Following Trump play book of create hate and divide, its working as many sane people suddenly in favors of bully tactics and unjust use of authority and misuse of public bodies. In world now era of ultra fake patriotism and jigonisitc attitudes now prevail, those who were slightly right of center becoming hard right and intolerant Starting to become like russia under putin or china now. All know this girls is harmless and not done anything illlegal. yet many happy she arrested just to teach lessons to anyone whose opinion they disagree with this. Modi and Shah no principles and all about power and making money. As shown by bizarre coalition they had with separatists in Kashmir all to have power and make $$! Interesting if Modi popularity peaked or this is beginning of drop. Think he will carry on garnering popularity as indian voters not the smartest and also oppo is a joke as well! Those days aren't far away when you crack a BJP joke in your social media account and you'll get arrested for it. Under_Score 1
Glory to india Posted February 16, 2021 Posted February 16, 2021 People are allowed to protest and object against government policy. Of course any protest by people will always have fringe nuts and those looking to cause trouble, that has been same for all protest in humanity for thousands of years lol But government needs to be bigger person in such issues not pour oil on to the fire and use nasty tactics to discredit and intimidate. You said how modi divide, lets not kid ourselves. He is intent on power and to divide people and push this agenda as works well, And will continue to work well. Cant see him losing for a long time but that is not good for india. Trump play book being used and worked in USA as well as people forced to choose are you with right and your country or other side. Many choose right and join with loonie fringes and compelled to justify more and more extreme behavior in war of words Oppo will have views and people their. But like I said government is for all Indian people and needs to control emotions and behave in dignified manner. People and aam aadmi will behave distasteful and do many idiotic stuff. Government there to rise above this. They using public bodies to bully and intimidate. nothing new as all Indian bodies are corrput and use for decades by people in power both regional and central for own motivations but now modi and bjp taking it to new levels. When in power words matter. Current BJP government has upped it to nasty levels. So many BJP politicians coming up with vicious comments which of course modi and shah dont use their powers to go after them only the envirmontalist who apparently is threat to idnian security lol Trump used words to incite and BJP following same pay book very successfully. Lets face it india always has been a joke and all this let police and law follow its course bull that BJP say lol Corrupt sadly and police being used to arrest and do trumped up charges, FIRs/tax investigations etc etc! All parties do this sadly but seems being taking to new level. Another thing like trump is this hero worship of Modi like he a god by his fans. They literally cant utter one bad word against him, utter devotion. yes does good things but also many bad but his fans cant hear one word against him and defend all and everything. Under_Score 1
neel roy Posted February 16, 2021 Posted February 16, 2021 On 2/15/2021 at 11:04 AM, velu said: Fantastic. Only issue is when will these people realise that you need to stop canoodling to Canadian govt which implicitly supports Khalistan. All the sikh MP s of Canada get votes based on their khalistani links beetle, coffee_rules and dial_100 3
neel roy Posted February 16, 2021 Posted February 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, Glory to india said: People are allowed to protest and object against government policy. Of course any protest by people will always have fringe nuts and those looking to cause trouble, that has been same for all protest in humanity for thousands of years lol But government needs to be bigger person in such issues not pour oil on to the fire and use nasty tactics to discredit and intimidate. You said how modi divide, lets not kid ourselves. He is intent on power and to divide people and push this agenda as works well, And will continue to work well. Cant see him losing for a long time but that is not good for india. Trump play book being used and worked in USA as well as people forced to choose are you with right and your country or other side. Many choose right and join with loonie fringes and compelled to justify more and more extreme behavior in war of words Oppo will have views and people their. But like I said government is for all Indian people and needs to control emotions and behave in dignified manner. People and aam aadmi will behave distasteful and do many idiotic stuff. Government there to rise above this. They using public bodies to bully and intimidate. nothing new as all Indian bodies are corrput and use for decades by people in power both regional and central for own motivations but now modi and bjp taking it to new levels. When in power words matter. Current BJP government has upped it to nasty levels. So many BJP politicians coming up with vicious comments which of course modi and shah dont use their powers to go after them only the envirmontalist who apparently is threat to idnian security lol Trump used words to incite and BJP following same pay book very successfully. Lets face it india always has been a joke and all this let police and law follow its course bull that BJP say lol Corrupt sadly and police being used to arrest and do trumped up charges, FIRs/tax investigations etc etc! All parties do this sadly but seems being taking to new level. Another thing like trump is this hero worship of Modi like he a god by his fans. They literally cant utter one bad word against him, utter devotion. yes does good things but also many bad but his fans cant hear one word against him and defend all and everything. i can agree to any protest until its a protest. But when it gets fuelled and supported by terrorist organisations then its not protest anymore. Its an attack on our sovereignty. beetle, velu and coffee_rules 3
Glory to india Posted February 16, 2021 Posted February 16, 2021 14 minutes ago, MechEng said: Those days aren't far away when you crack a BJP joke in your social media account and you'll get arrested for it. If in India and go on twitter and make jokes about modi and shah think good chance will be arrested. This is fear of people. If come out and vehemently disagree against government could lead to trouble for you. This is exactly what government want, to create fear that if voice disagreement against modi/shah you may land up in jail, this is clear tactic to keep people quite and ensure their propaganda prevails and they win more and more so can make more and more $$$. Will whatsapp messages be made open and if said something goverment does not like will gave FIR against you? Its creating fear in aam aadmi like what Putin has achieved. Does not matter if joke is pants or views wrong against goverment. This should not lead to arrest and state machinery acting against you. Freedom of speech, even if the speeches you disagree with!
urbestfriend Posted February 16, 2021 Posted February 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, Glory to india said: If in India and go on twitter and make jokes about modi and shah think good chance will be arrested. This is fear of people. If come out and vehemently disagree against government could lead to trouble for you. This is exactly what government want, to create fear that if voice disagreement against modi/shah you may land up in jail, this is clear tactic to keep people quite and ensure their propaganda prevails and they win more and more so can make more and more $$$. Will whatsapp messages be made open and if said something goverment does not like will gave FIR against you? Its creating fear in aam aadmi like what Putin has achieved. Does not matter if joke is pants or views wrong against goverment. This should not lead to arrest and state machinery acting against you. Freedom of speech, even if the speeches you disagree with! . Can you quote some examples when it happened? I can show 1000's of verified twitter handles who are criticising Modi since last 10 years which includes personal attack as well. beetle and coffee_rules 1 1
Glory to india Posted February 16, 2021 Posted February 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, neel roy said: i can agree to any protest until its a protest. But when it gets fuelled and supported by terrorist organisations then its not protest anymore. Its an attack on our sovereignty. Look. Are there fringe elements that are part of the protests. Yes of course. Are some foreign Sikhs living in 1984 time warp and want separate sikh state? Yes of course SO WHAT If some one comes out and says sikhs should have separate state. So what? Do we disagree with this and vehemently object? Yes. But as long don't incite violence and terrorism that no issues. Sorry but thats reality. Be disgusted with their separatist views yes but for them to have view of separate state is not against law as long as no violence Also lets not kid ourselves. Many Many farmers objected to bill and protested from many non punjab places. They genuinely objected to it. BJP then felt needed to change agenda and so pushed hard its Kahlaistan separatist movement and used all their paid media to push this hard. And it worked lol Now many duped and fall in line and obsesses with some fringe elements and not the mass protest! I mean look at us, we talking about khalistan and not farm protest. Goverment happy to push divisive agenda so they come out smelling of roses. Yes creates anti feel against another minority but government wants that as helps their popularity. Sad days! Under_Score 1
urbestfriend Posted February 16, 2021 Posted February 16, 2021 1 minute ago, Glory to india said: Look. Are there fringe elements that are part of the protests. Yes of course. Are some foreign Sikhs living in 1984 time warp and want separate sikh state? Yes of course SO WHAT If some one comes out and says sikhs should have separate state. So what? Do we disagree with this and vehemently object? Yes. But as long don't incite violence and terrorism that no issues. Sorry but thats reality. Be disgusted with their separatist views yes but for them to have view of separate state is not against law as long as no violence Also lets not kid ourselves. Many Many farmers objected to bill and protested from many non punjab places. They genuinely objected to it. BJP then felt needed to change agenda and so pushed hard its Kahlaistan separatist movement and used all their paid media to push this hard. And it worked lol Now many duped and fall in line and obsesses with some fringe elements and not the mass protest! I mean look at us, we talking about khalistan and not farm protest. Goverment happy to push divisive agenda so they come out smelling of roses. Yes creates anti feel against another minority but government wants that as helps their popularity. Sad days! You mean BJP has a hand in Greta Leaking the toolkit? Majority of Indians value the unity of nation more than anything else. So when separatist elements join, it is obvious to create doubts in peoples mind. Now dont cry if BJP uses this, specially because you see unabashed support for the separatism saying "so what" from the liberals. "So what" if Khalistani flag is hoisted on Lal quila? Majority of indians are highly patriotic and they dont think "so what". They want such elements to be punished.
velu Posted February 16, 2021 Posted February 16, 2021 12 minutes ago, Glory to india said: If in India and go on twitter and make jokes about modi and shah think good chance will be arrested. This is fear of people. If come out and vehemently disagree against government could lead to trouble for you. This is exactly what government want, to create fear that if voice disagreement against modi/shah you may land up in jail, this is clear tactic to keep people quite and ensure their propaganda prevails and they win more and more so can make more and more $$$. as far as i know nobody got arrested for passing jokes on modi or shah ( same with pappu as well ) .. if someone is young and daughter of a single mother doesn't makes them impunity to crimes that they commit .. if disha was in touch with greta and guides her what to tweet and when to tweet , definitely there is lot of conspiracy going on behind the scenes and if you cant see this simple thing , nobody can help you .. Austin 3:!6 and dial_100 1 1
Austin 3:!6 Posted February 16, 2021 Author Posted February 16, 2021 Look. Are there fringe elements that are part of the protests. Yes of course. Are some foreign Sikhs living in 1984 time warp and want separate sikh state? Yes of course SO WHAT If some one comes out and says sikhs should have separate state. So what? Do we disagree with this and vehemently object? Yes. But as long don't incite violence and terrorism that no issues. Sorry but thats reality. Be disgusted with their separatist views yes but for them to have view of separate state is not against law as long as no violence Also lets not kid ourselves. Many Many farmers objected to bill and protested from many non punjab places. They genuinely objected to it. BJP then felt needed to change agenda and so pushed hard its Kahlaistan separatist movement and used all their paid media to push this hard. And it worked lol Now many duped and fall in line and obsesses with some fringe elements and not the mass protest! I mean look at us, we talking about khalistan and not farm protest. Goverment happy to push divisive agenda so they come out smelling of roses. Yes creates anti feel against another minority but government wants that as helps their popularity. Sad days!Dont think you are able to understand the gravity of the situation. No one is against the farmer protest, including the PM himself. He clearly said in parliament democratic protest is welcome everytime. But this toolkit which got exposed due to a juvenile error by Greta had bigger agenda than just protesting.'Damaging tea and yoga culture of India' was one of the objective. Pls tell us what is the co-relation of farm laws with Yoga culture? Basically they wanted to use this farmer protest as an excuse to tarnish the image of India. Is that not blasphemy?'Attck and protest in front of Indian embassies globally' - what has that got to do with farm laws?It was also written the steps they would take to continue with the protest even if Govt withdraws the bill. Why would they continue to protest if farm bills their only concern?Its not a case of few disruptive elements in the farmer protest. Its a bigger political and international conspiracy to defame India's reputation in the name of farmers protest. Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk dial_100 and velu 2
Glory to india Posted February 16, 2021 Posted February 16, 2021 9 minutes ago, urbestfriend said: You mean BJP has a hand in Greta Leaking the toolkit? Majority of Indians value the unity of nation more than anything else. So when separatist elements join, it is obvious to create doubts in peoples mind. Now dont cry if BJP uses this, specially because you see unabashed support for the separatism saying "so what" from the liberals. "So what" if Khalistani flag is hoisted on Lal quila? Majority of indians are highly patriotic and they dont think "so what". They want such elements to be punished. So raising a flag should be punished hmmmm Think you will find india is a lot more secure than this ideologically. It was very very distasteful I didnt like it. Arrests, o come on. In other country police grab protetsres like this chuck them in police cell over night then boot them out next day lol W acting like a bomb was planeted in modi bed or somehing lol How sensitive. And even if say 4 people want bonkers and did this (links to bjp maybe allowing /helping this as convinent diversion from real protest) so reprimand these 1 or 2 who did this flag thing. Lakhs protested and its clever diversion by goverment as we all doing is now talking about toothless khlaistan movement lol Look even I am wasting words on their diversion tactic. lol Under_Score 1
urbestfriend Posted February 16, 2021 Posted February 16, 2021 I think Disha girl may not be aware of the bigger design behind this and joining this as part of some NGO hired by the handlers.
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