Is Livingstone a HACK or a “modern day” Batsman?

[Tattieboy]

4 minutes ago, Global.Baba said:

Let me digress here and rephrase my question 

 

not man to man but overall on a scale of 1-10 how much ahead do you think is the modern English team ahead of the current and apparently outdated Indian team?

 

As a neutral fan let me ask you this, you are picking a odi/t20 squad and your option is Rohit/Jason Roy  who would you pick?

Not a lot , in ability and resources India are on another planet BUT what is different is mind set . India sets targets 10, 20 , 30 overs  and plays the majority of time batting first to them ..England's only thinking is can I hit this for 6 or 4 maybe not this one so we will settle for a two . It's the difference of positive mental thinking and no fear of failure against a conservative mindset ....India changes its mindset then they should be WC winners . They need to take power plays as is played in IPL into ODI . Who I should pick is Rohit but it's all about waking the walk and not talking the talk . Could Rohit play in the England side instead of Roy doing Roy's job ? 

[velu]

3 hours ago, Global.Baba said:

Cant tell anymore. The lines are officially blurred.

 

Will defer to experts in this matter  @Ankit_sharma03 and @zen

bitch baba  

[Global.Baba]

1 minute ago, velu said:

bitch baba  

 is he a csk player ?

[Tattieboy]

13 minutes ago, Global.Baba said:

@Tattieboy I am not against modern approach but I think good quality cricketers can adapt to that approach as well. I want good quality cricketers playing high quality modern cricket.

 

You will never see me call Morgan,Bairstow,Butler,Stokes or even Malan and Sam Billings as hacks (jury still a little out there on this one)

 

Even though Morgan who is one of my fav cricketers is soon going the Afridi/Russell route or May be he is just out of touch but he is much better than that.

 

In fact I even think Mo Ali is a proper bat and not a hack even though he plays like one these days.

Those English players didn't play that way either until it was decided the philosophy of the team going forward 6 years ago .Mo Ali was/ is a proper bat , that's what he started out as and by accident became a very reluctant first choice  spinner , His batting suffers because of his lack of confidence on a cricket field because of his bowling . When he performs well with the ball he looks different better . Is he an Ashwin ? Noooooo but he fits into the English side and gives it balance 

[BacktoCricaddict]

What criteria are we applying when we call someone "a hack"? 

 

When I was growing up, anyone who scored at a SR of >50 was a hack.  Anyone who had gap between bat and pad was a hack.  Am exaggerating, but not much.  

 

 

Edited March 26, 2021 by BacktoCricaddict

[Global.Baba]

7 minutes ago, BacktoCricaddict said:

What criteria are we applying when we call someone "a hack"? 

 

When I was growing up, anyone who scored at a SR of >50 was a hack.  Anyone who had gap between bat and pad was a hack.  Am exaggerating, but not much.  

 

 

Other street lingo in the 90’s  for such players in gully cricket was Tulla ,Thukka,Tulleybaaz, Thukkabaaz, Afridi, Jayasuriya (not a hack but street lingo) etc. that’s basically the criteria.

Edited March 26, 2021 by Global.Baba

[Tattieboy]

29 minutes ago, zen said:

 

Roy 

I am a neutral because everyone knows we Scottish just love the English lol 

[BacktoCricaddict]

Just now, Global.Baba said:

Other street lingo in the 90’s  for such players in gully cricket was Tulla ,Thukka,Tulleybaaz, Thukkabaaz, Afridi, Jayasuriya (not a hack but street lingo) etc. that’s basically the criteria.

In Kannada in the 80s - KoLTe.  

[Global.Baba]

1 minute ago, Tattieboy said:

I am a neutral because everyone knows we Scottish just love the English lol 

Roy is South African that’s why it made sense 

 

Ps: That was in lighter vein, don’t need to know Roy’s lineage or British immigration trail  

[Global.Baba]

1 minute ago, BacktoCricaddict said:

In Kannada in the 80s - KoLTe.  

forgot to add but Dhobby-Pachaad was another term. My personal favorite. 

Edited March 26, 2021 by Global.Baba

[Global.Baba]

Jeez I typed “Dhobbi” as in the washerman and ICF made it to Dhoni  what kind of politically correct nonsense is this

[YCCC]

Definite hack. The Lancastrian prick ;)

[Tattieboy]

4 minutes ago, Global.Baba said:

Roy is South African that’s why it made sense 

 

Ps: That was in lighter vein, don’t need to know Roy’s lineage or British immigration trail  

The truth is once in South Africa he saw an English film , that means automatic citizenship lol 

[Global.Baba]

By the way being a  Hack is not bad, my batting hero is Axar Patel as his batting reminds me of myself. He is the Sachin to my Bradman, Labu to my Sachin.

 

Lets see I am excited to see what Livingstone can do.

[Ankit_sharma03]

Havent seen enough if him. But whatever i have ...he hits the ball big. 

Hack n bits n pieces are just useless words in LOI now. 

[New guy]

2 hours ago, Mariyam said:

Indian bowling on meeting Liam:

 

Hack Livingstone, I presume?

Yes, and I am glad I am here to welcome tonk you

[Jay]

100% pure hack. 

[maniac]

Bump

[SK_IH]

I have been a big fan of this guy since the time he dominated Big bash 2 years back iirc

[maniac]

10 minutes ago, SK_IH said:

I have been a big fan of this guy since the time he dominated Big bash 2 years back iirc

  I usually don’t judge big bash hitting by gora players. Dan C ,Henriques etc own this league with both bat and ball