Norman Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 1 hour ago, deepdynamo said: TBH, this team didn't deserve to be in WTC final let alone winning it. We overachieved in WTC 21-23. Because other teams are horse crap. New Zealand's honeymoon period is over and England took way too long to implement bazball to make up for the catastrophic start to their cycle. SAF looked decent in patches but had a rough schedule. Pak , SL and WI are just shiit... Gollum and deepdynamo 2 Link to comment
Chakdephatte Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 (edited) CT '17- coz we lost to Pakistan WC '19- Our best shot. Self-made destruction. All other tournaments, we were not favourites really. Finished mostly where we deserved to, i.e, semis or quarter finals. 2021 was the least disappointing when Kohli was removed. Edited June 9, 2023 by Chakdephatte Link to comment
Tillu Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 CT 17 - That was when we lost our dominance against Pakistan in ICC tournaments. That Psychological edge we have was gone starting from this tournament. Link to comment
deepdynamo Posted June 9, 2023 Author Share Posted June 9, 2023 52 minutes ago, Chakdephatte said: CT '17- coz we lost to Pakistan WC '19- Our best shot. Self-made destruction. All other tournaments, we were not favourites really. Finished mostly where we deserved to, i.e, semis or quarter finals. 2021 was the least disappointing when Kohli was removed. Believe we were favorite in 2014 WT20. vs SL, even though they were playing their golden generation, still India were too hot in that tournament. Link to comment
deepdynamo Posted June 9, 2023 Author Share Posted June 9, 2023 51 minutes ago, Tillu said: CT 17 - That was when we lost our dominance against Pakistan in ICC tournaments. That Psychological edge we have was gone starting from this tournament. We did crush them in ODI WC 2019. But in T20, they have caught up with us and in Babar era, they are 2-2 so far ( T20 WC 2021 , Asia Cup T20 2022 and T20 WC 2022 ) Link to comment
singhvivek141 Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Tillu said: CT 17 - That was when we lost our dominance against Pakistan in ICC tournaments. That Psychological edge we have was gone starting from this tournament. India never had any "edge"over Pakistan in Champions Trophy....we had lost to them in previous editions as well... https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/icc-champions-trophy-2004-61157/india-vs-pakistan-12th-match-66207/full-scorecard 2021 T20 WC was the first loss in a WC tournament Edited June 9, 2023 by singhvivek141 Link to comment
putrevus Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 WC19 biggest disappointment. Other losses India was never in those matches . Link to comment
deepdynamo Posted June 11, 2023 Author Share Posted June 11, 2023 And the wait continues.... Drubbed in the WTC Final. Last 9 Icc trophies: 4 Final 4 Semifinal 0 Title Norman 1 Link to comment
Stan AF Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 As someone said BJP's tenure is for indian cricket. Gollum 1 Link to comment
Ravi_Shastri Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 (edited) Stupid question. It is just a sport. It doesn't hurt unless you are a jobless jabroni with nothing else to do. Edited June 11, 2023 by Ravi_Shastri Lord and Gollum 2 Link to comment
deepdynamo Posted June 11, 2023 Author Share Posted June 11, 2023 Summary of last 9 ICC Trophies under Dhoni, Kohli & Rohit. 4 Finals & 4 Semifinals. 8 knockout matches. Lost all 8. Title: ZERO DHONI Era WT20 2014 Final: India had a golden chance to lift the trophy. Everything was going fine until Yuvraj came and messed it up big time. Even 160 would have been enough. But Yuvraj choked. Indian bowlers worked hard and made even 130 difficult at one point. Dhoni would have the only captain to hold ODI WC, T20WC and CT at the same time. This still baffles me how it went away from us. ODI WC 2015 Semifinal: India were beaten comprehensively by both Australia and England in a triseries just before WC. So India were not favorite to do anything in the WC. But surprisingly all got together very well for India as India topped the group by winning all the matches. It gave a false hope and Aus on the semifinal day just blew us off. Not so disappointing at the end as that 2015 team has lots of cracks.WT20 2016 Semifinal: Dhoni final ICC Trophy as captain. India were favorite but huffed and puffed to semifinal due to a red hot Virat Kohli. WI possessed a unique challenge but most of us were confident we will get past Windies and secretly waiting for the real match - India vs England in the final. India got 190 odd despite Rahane slow start and when Bumrah castled Gayle early and the first 4 overs went tight, it felt that it would be easy. And then the Ashiwn NO ball wicket of simmons, dew factor came big and India had no answers to windies powerhitting. Massive massive heartbreak. KOHLI Era CT 2017 Final: How can we mess this up? Up against a weakest ODI team Pakistan, we just messed u it up spectacularly right from toss, Bumrah no ball wicket of Fakhar, choking against Amir and everything just went against us on that day. Hurt the most. ODI WC 2019 Semifinal: Like 2015 WC, India steamrolled opposition in the league stage to top it and look set for the Final until the dreaded semifinal against NZ. It was literally shocking to see Shami out of the team despite being our best bowler right throughout the championship. 240 was still gettable but all hopes were vanished when we had that epic collapse of 5/3. We deserved to be in the final. WTC 2021 Final: India topped the league despite a blip in mid of the campaign. Flying high on bating Aus (away) 2-1 and England 3-1(Home), this was India's best chance of ICC glory. NZ was a tricky opponent though having beaten India 2-0 in league phase. It was all too familiar for India...shaky top and middle order, under cooked preparation and wrong team selection. Even two washed out days couldn't save the day for India. WT20 2021 Super 12: A mentally fatigued t20 misfit team led by a terrible captain was humiliated by PAK & NZ and for the first time since 2012, India failed to reach KO. One of the worst campaign.Rohit EraWT20 2022 Semifinal: A better performance than last T20 WC on paper but it was no better. There were glaring holes in both aspects with conservative approach in batting and toothless bowling. Exposed to maximum in the semifinal with a phanity of epic proportion. Only saving grace was a close victory against Pakistan. WTC 2023 Final: A second consecutive final in WTC but didn't look that convincing right through the cycle. Series wins against Aus ( 2-1 at home on tacky pitches) and drawn series vs England ( 2-2, creditable but faltered against the only time England played bazball). South Africa away was a huge disappointment (1-2) and even Bangladesh also almost won a test against us. In Final, Australia blew them away and our IPL superstars couldn't do much against sustained pressure. Pant, Bumrah and KL unavailability left a huge hole and lack of quality players were quite evident. maniac 1 Link to comment
Suhaan Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 These mafias must go These so called "senior stalwarts/shupaastarrs" don't deserve any of them Shame,they must answer to the nation,not for today but for all these 9-10 years of disappointment No amount of bilateral fake bravado can soothe the pain now deepdynamo 1 Link to comment
maniac Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 If anyone expected India to be the favorites vs Australia in these conditions then it is your fault for having the wrong expectations. only thing that hurts is poor mistakes which could have been avoided. Decision making, body language, attitude and fight was non existent. We can complaint there however this isn’t a surprising result deepdynamo 1 Link to comment
Vijy Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 10 hours ago, maniac said: If anyone expected India to be the favorites vs Australia in these conditions then it is your fault for having the wrong expectations. only thing that hurts is poor mistakes which could have been avoided. Decision making, body language, attitude and fight was non existent. We can complaint there however this isn’t a surprising result yes, a thrashing was always on the cards Link to comment
deepdynamo Posted June 12, 2023 Author Share Posted June 12, 2023 The next ICC Trophy is a big one - ODI world cup at home. There will be immense pressure on the team because of 0/9 ICC Trophies results. Link to comment
Zero_Unit Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 Man, I hope the young guns pull up their pants and do something productive this time around. Link to comment
Suhaan Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 6 hours ago, Vijy said: yes, a thrashing was always on the cards They would have lost the final here in India as well It's not about conditions anymore Link to comment
Bigg Brother Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 This recent final was the least hurting. Everyone knew we are going to get thrashed. Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Bigg Brother said: This recent final was the least hurting. Everyone knew we are going to get thrashed. Ditto. Everything was on cue. From selection of squad , selection of team, Toss decisio ,on field strategies and the result everything was expected. This Rohit, Kohli, Pujara combo are not going to win anything. Rahane despite a mediocre career atleast les his B string side to a series win. We didn't have Bumrah either. Bigg Brother 1 Link to comment
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