Rate the current Indian all-rounders on 10.

[Majestic]

On an overall level, in terms of their value overall and impact.

 

Ravichandran Ashwin

Ravindra Jadeja

Hardik Pandya

Washington Sundar

Shardul Thakur

Vijay Shankar

Krunal Pandya

Rahul Tewatia

Shivam Dube

 

Discuss!

 

 

 

 

[jf1gp_1]

jadeja and hardik are the only allrounders on that list who irrespective of format or surface can contribute with both bat and bowl. jaddu is 8 hardik -6

[Jay]

All of them barring krunal and Dube are above 6. Yes even Shankar. Shankar is quite handy in tests. 

[Sean Bradley]

Ravichandran Ashwin : 8/10

Ravindra Jadeja : 8/10

Hardik Pandya : 9/10

Washington Sundar: 7/10

Shardul Thakur : 7/10

Vijay Shankar : 1/10

Krunal Pandya : 3/10

Rahul Tewatia: 3/10

Shivam Dube: 1/10

[Jay]

46 minutes ago, Sean Bradley said:

Ravichandran Ashwin : 8/10

Ravindra Jadeja : 8/10

Hardik Pandya : 9/10

Washington Sundar: 7/10

Shardul Thakur : 7/10

Vijay Shankar : 1/10

Krunal Pandya : 3/10

Rahul Tewatia: 3/10

Shivam Dube: 1/10

Lol what. How is pandu ranked higher than ATGs like Ashwin and jaddu who are easily amongst the greatest spinners of all time in tests. 

[Sean Bradley]

18 minutes ago, Jay said:

Lol what. How is pandu ranked higher than ATGs like Ashwin and jaddu who are easily amongst the greatest spinners of all time in tests. 

For his batting abilities, Hardik Pandya is 2x the Batsman of both Ashwin & Jadeja Combined together. Ashwin is the better bowler of the 3 but, both Pandya and Jaddu are better fielders than Ashwin. Pandya earns extra brownie point for his sheer dominance and the impact he has on the game with the bat.

[I6MTW]

25 minutes ago, Sean Bradley said:

For his batting abilities, Hardik Pandya is 2x the Batsman of both Ashwin & Jadeja Combined together. Ashwin is the better bowler of the 3 but, both Pandya and Jaddu are better fielders than Ashwin. Pandya earns extra brownie point for his sheer dominance and the impact he has on the game with the bat.

Jadeja is a better test batsman than Pandya . Even Ashwin can be argued. Both have more centuries and match winning innings with the bat.

[Jay]

1 hour ago, Sean Bradley said:

For his batting abilities, Hardik Pandya is 2x the Batsman of both Ashwin & Jadeja Combined together. Ashwin is the better bowler of the 3 but, both Pandya and Jaddu are better fielders than Ashwin. Pandya earns extra brownie point for his sheer dominance and the impact he has on the game with the bat.

Not even close. Ashwin and jaddu defecates on him. Tests make legends. Not Odis. Even in odi jaddu is close to pandus level. 

[Jay]

Ashwin and jaddu are on par with Warne. There I said it. Stats say so. Ability probably too. 

 

 

[Ankit_sharma03]

ull have to seperate them on formats 

 

Test

 

• Ashwin- 6
• Jaddu- 7.5
• Pandya- 5.5
• Sundar- 6
• Thakur- 5.5

 

ODI- 

 

• Pandya- 8
• jaddu- 6.5
• Thakur- 7
• dube-2
• Krunal-3
• Axar- 6
• Vijay shankar - 6
• Sundar- 6

 

T20

1. Pandya- 8
2. Jaddu- 5.5 
3. ThaKUR- 5.5
4. Krunal- 6 
5. Axar- 6
6. dube-2
7. Sundar- 6
8. Shankar- 3

 

 

but rating them is meaningless

 

Edited April 17, 2021 by Ankit_sharma03

[Sean Bradley]

26 minutes ago, Jay said:

Not even close. Ashwin and jaddu defecates on him. Tests make legends. Not Odis. Even in odi jaddu is close to pandus level. 

Defecates on Pandya with the Bat? I can only laugh at such statements, anyone who thinks that Ashwin and Jadeja are better batsman than Pandya are either biased fans or does not understand Cricket, their is a reason why they come after Pandya even in the batting Order. Pandya in comparison to Ashwin  and Jadeja has played very little test matches, so there is no comparison there at the moment. My rating is purely based on their ability and not their past record. A back injury was a big set back to Pandyas bowling career, which takes nothing away from him in terms of his ability. Also Pandya on his test debut smashed Steyn and co all and around the park, which Ashwin and Jadeja can never dream off.

[Jay]

1 hour ago, Sean Bradley said:

Defecates on Pandya with the Bat? I can only laugh at such statements, anyone who thinks that Ashwin and Jadeja are better batsman than Pandya are either biased fans or does not understand Cricket, their is a reason why they come after Pandya even in the batting Order. Pandya in comparison to Ashwin  and Jadeja has played very little test matches, so there is no comparison there at the moment. My rating is purely based on their ability and not their past record. A back injury was a big set back to Pandyas bowling career, which takes nothing away from him in terms of his ability. Also Pandya on his test debut smashed Steyn and co all and around the park, which Ashwin and Jadeja can never dream off.

defecates with the ball. with the bat jadeja is well ahead too. ashwin recently has gotten a lot better too as witnessed vs aussies and england. even look at their first class stats. ashwin used to be an opener. he is no dud. as a bowler he is vastly superior. 

 

lmao he smashed an old washed up steyn in s.afirca. come back to me when he actually dominates cummins and co in australia. or rabada in s.africa apart from one fluke innings where he was dropped 3 times. 

[zen]

From those listed in the OP: 
 

Tier 1 

 

SDP - invaluable for his power hitting + useful 3rd, 4th and 5th bowler in all formats in most conditions ... esp. dominant in LOIs 

 

Tier 2 (will pick for bowling mainly atm - batting at #7 to 8/9)

 

Jadeja (though has been in good form with the bat recently)

Ashwin (conditions and format restricted player) 

Sundar (potential) 

 

Tier 3 (mainly for one discipline, other aspect a bonus)

 

Tewatia (lower middle order batting)

Shankar (top order or upper middle order batting)

Thakur (only if bowling well & to hit a few at #8-9)

 

 

Tier 4 - utility in T20s

 

Krunal

Dube 

[Norman]

 
Ravichandran Ashwin - 7/10
Ravindra Jadeja - 6/10
Hardik Pandya - 6/10
Washington Sundar - 6/10
Shardul Thakur - 4/10
Vijay Shankar - 3/10
Krunal Pandya - 4/10
Rahul Tewatia - 3/10
Shivam Dube - -5/10
 

.....

[Majestic]

My rating for all-rounder category would be:-

 

Ashwin - 8

Jadeja - 8.5

Pandya - 8.0

Sundar - 7.5

Thakur - 7

Shankar - 6

Tewatia - 5

Krunal - 3

Dube - 2

 

Edited April 17, 2021 by Majestic

[zen]

From IPL $$$ and team building perspective (from those listed in the OP):

 

Tier 1

 

SDP

 

Tier 2 

 

Tewatia

Jadeja 

 

Tier 3 

 

Sundar (though needs to improve fielding) 

Krunal 

 

Tier 4 (pick only for one discipline, other a bonus) 

 

Ashwin (spin bowling + ordinary fielder)

Thakur (bowling + batting at #8-9)

Shankar (top order or upper middle order batting) 

 

Tier 5 (utility / back up)

 

Dube 

[Adamant]

3 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

ull have to seperate them on formats 

 

Test

 

• Ashwin- 6
• Jaddu- 7.5
• Pandya- 5.5
• Sundar- 6
• Thakur- 5.5

 

ODI- 

 

• Pandya- 8
• jaddu- 6.5
• Thakur- 7
• dube-2
• Krunal-3
• Axar- 6
• Vijay shankar - 6
• Sundar- 6

 

T20

1. Pandya- 8
2. Jaddu- 5.5 
3. ThaKUR- 5.5
4. Krunal- 6 
5. Axar- 6
6. dube-2
7. Sundar- 6
8. Shankar- 3

 

 

but rating them is meaningless

 

Ashwin as a bowler itself is better than Pandya the allrounder in tests, now add his batting as well and it turns out to be a joke of a contest. 

 

Tests

Ashwin 9

Jadeja 9

Pandya - 6.5

[Straight Drive]

Sundar, Ashwin and Jaddu are top category 1 for me. They have a spot in test team as well as compared to others who are not picked in tests.

 

In 2nd category I would have Hardik Pandya.

 

In 3rd category I would have all remaining all rounders.

 

[Ankit_sharma03]

4 minutes ago, Adamant said:

Ashwin as a bowler itself is better than Pandya the allrounder in tests, now add his batting as well and it turns out to be a joke of a contest. 

 

Tests

Ashwin 9

Jadeja 9

Pandya - 6.5

We are talking about all round ability..ashwin still is a bowler who can bat

9 are too high scores for to give it to anyone

[IndianCapitals]

On 4/17/2021 at 5:12 AM, Ankit_sharma03 said:

ull have to seperate them on formats 

 

Test

 

• Ashwin- 6
• Jaddu- 7.5
• Pandya- 5.5
• Sundar- 6
• Thakur- 5.5

 

ODI- 

 

• Pandya- 8
• jaddu- 6.5
• Thakur- 7
• dube-2
• Krunal-3
• Axar- 6
• Vijay shankar - 6
• Sundar- 6

 

T20

1. Pandya- 8
2. Jaddu- 5.5 
3. ThaKUR- 5.5
4. Krunal- 6 
5. Axar- 6
6. dube-2
7. Sundar- 6
8. Shankar- 3

 

 

but rating them is meaningless

 

T 20 Kunal 6 Sundar 6 axar 6 but jadega 5.5

 @Global.Baba

 

lol

 

jadega is best Indian spinning all rounder no doubt 

Edited April 25, 2021 by IndianCapitals