zen Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Both are good players in their way and may struggle if the ball moves around (like most Ind openers). Pros for Gaikwad v Shaw: better game sense better fielder (Shaw as a fielder would be in the lowest tier) can be more consistent when in form Pros for Shaw v Gaikwad: Better stroke player (but needs to be in his best form to be impactful) His good innings can be relatively more impactful for the team If Padikkal, who is closer to Gaikwad in the way he plays his cricket, is added to the discussion: Pros: Left hander, good fielder, and can show a good game sense as well Cons: SR can be on the lower side than both Gaikwad and Shaw Who is likely to be more successful in the short to mid term for his franchise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Global.Baba Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Shaw is a match winner, X factor player with a lot of baggage like fitness and fielding Gaekwad is a hardworking player who maximizes his skill and can be a great asset in a solid line up. If I am chasing 200+ or 350+ in T20/ODis I would want Shaw in the side. Getting over 140 type targets without any hiccups Or getting a decent score on a tough surface, Gaekwad is the guy. Shaw can play quality international attacks though jury out on Gaekwad still. IPL doesn’t count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted April 21, 2021 Author Share Posted April 21, 2021 5 minutes ago, Global.Baba said: Shaw is a match winner, X factor player with a lot of baggage like fitness and fielding Gaekwad is a hardworking player who maximizes his skill and can be a great asset in a solid line up. If I am chasing 200+ or 350+ in T20/ODis I would want Shaw in the side. Getting over 140 type targets without any hiccups Or getting a decent score on a tough surface, Gaekwad is the guy. Shaw can play quality international attacks though jury out on Gaekwad still. IPL doesn’t count. That post does not answer any question or address the scope in the OP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankit_sharma03 Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Not even a conversation - shaw is miles ahead. Vk1 and Cricspin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Global.Baba Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, zen said: That post does not answer any question or address the scope in the OP Shaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankit_sharma03 Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 9 minutes ago, Global.Baba said: Gaekwad is a hardworking player who maximizes his skill and can be a great asset in a solid line up. Whats a solid lineup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted April 21, 2021 Author Share Posted April 21, 2021 (edited) IPL 2020 Gaikwad: Avg 51, SR 120; Avg*SR = 6,120 Padikkal: Avg 32, SR 125; Avg*SR = 4,000 Shaw: Avg 18, SR 137; Avg*SR = 2,466 Edited April 21, 2021 by zen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamadagni Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Shaw is miles better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankit_sharma03 Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 11 minutes ago, Global.Baba said: Shaw is a match winner, X factor player with a lot of baggage like fitness and fielding Gaekwad is a hardworking player who maximizes his skill and can be a great asset in a solid line up. If I am chasing 200+ or 350+ in T20/ODis I would want Shaw in the side. Getting over 140 type targets without any hiccups Or getting a decent score on a tough surface, Gaekwad is the guy. Shaw can play quality international attacks though jury out on Gaekwad still. IPL doesn’t count. Gaikwad looked absolute crap in last few games when ball moved around. This is a damn flat wkt with no left armer in opposite side which has caused him his downfall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndianCapitals Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Shaw has the biggest upside aka biggest matchwinner Gaikwad and Paddi can be the consistent anchor type players lol at best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laaloo Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Shaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VT87 Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Shaw is tatti Cricspin and Laaloo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 28 minutes ago, sarchasm said: You want to get a good whiff of steaming tatti, look no further than Gill. Gill is a test player but Shaw is neither test nor a T20 bat. Too flawed and flashy Domestic basher. sorak 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamant Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Shaw is a prodigy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Global.Baba Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 3 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: Whats a solid lineup like CSK or MI or such established teams. Even SKY who used to open before didnt look that much better than him few years back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Global.Baba Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 3 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: Gaikwad looked absolute crap in last few games when ball moved around. This is a damn flat wkt with no left armer in opposite side which has caused him his downfall please read my post again. I called him adequate and hard working. I rate Shaw higher. Why do we need to put down one player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Wolf Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Shaw is the guy I think.. And from what I saw in NZ tests dude can play swing bowling. He needs to work on foot movement a tad & he can be gun. Needs backing though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboysfan Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 I will never rate Shaw,he is deeply flawed. sorak 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Global.Baba Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, rkt.india said: Gill is a test player but Shaw is neither test nor a T20 bat. Too flawed and flashy Domestic basher. IPL is a domestic T20 competition so you need a domestic basher and a flashy player at the top. I will have a problem if this version of Shaw plays in WTC or England but for IPL T20 don’t see too many batsmen more exciting than him. His issue is fielding and fitness. Technical flaws don’t think it is that much worse than say Iyer, Mayank or Rahul (in tests). Anyways don’t see him putting any efforts on this, May be is we don’t know what happens behind the scene but looking at him, don’t think he is. Edited April 21, 2021 by Global.Baba Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Realist Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 1 hour ago, cowboysfan said: I will never rate Shaw,he is deeply flawed. Yeah. He has talent but that alone won't get you to the top. Need hard work, determination & luck. Lack of fitness and being out of shape is a big red flag shows doesn't have the hunger to succeed. sorak 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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