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The MSD syndrome: taking it to the last over/ball is a disease and needs to be stopped


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Ideally, a team should try to chase as if there are 19 overs, treating the 20th over as an emergency bonus.

 

But there are many ebbs and flows in a game that if a side is chasing a competitive total esp. against a decent side, the game can go to the last ball.

 

No matter what planning you do, once the game begins, the practical aspects of the game can be different, making the game exciting!


As the saying goes - “Till the last ball is bowled, …”

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1 hour ago, maniac said:

Case in point today’s game. Match should have been over in 19 overs.

 

Now besides the script, etc jokes this is getting ridiculous and I hate every Indian cricketer saying they learnt this from Mahi bhai.

 

Finish the game when you have a chance 

As much as we hate the current version of Dhoni, at his peak he combined mental fortitude with great skill. None of the current bunch in middle/ lower order are close to what  dhoni was at his peak.

 

We have got to a point where lack of skill and a tendancy to choke are blamed on Dhoni, similar to how Pakistani blame us for all thier internal issues.

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Yesterday's match last ball thing had nothing to do with taking to last ball, it was a simple combination of two back to back good overs by Fizz & Karthik  & some old skool choking by the batsmen. Both batsmen were trying to hit but couldn't.

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5 hours ago, Vivek92 said:

As much as we hate the current version of Dhoni, at his peak he combined mental fortitude with great skill.

That's BS, at his peak Yuvraj as well as Raina were hitting it out of the park - he was never really that much of a finisher as he's made it out to be, excellent case in point was the 2011/12 Tri series down under!

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1 minute ago, velu said:

nobody remember 19th over finishes , but everybody remember last over finishes  :pop2:

 

8 minutes ago, sage said:

It's intentional to boost TRP. IPL script writers want a Bollywood finish every game

Of course, this is why we have so many false Gods :om:

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Unlike MSDs controlled calculations, this is not intentional. This is just a poor team getting under pressure. As soon as they are in sight of victory, they feel under pressure and choke 

 

Pooran was also culprit last year when he went for wild slogs with 9 wickets left and rahul on the other side. He got out and Punjab choked with 9 wickets left and under run a ball required for over 3 overs and rahul still batting 

 

This time pooran tried the opposite approach and team choked again

 

Both extremes, blind slogging or just tuk tuking in sight of victory is because of pressure. Good teams dont change approach when close to victory but treat each ball on merit

 

The moment you decide you need to change something (lets take it to last over, lets finish it before 19) you are likely to overthink and lose the plot. The secret is to not change anything and keep playing naturally as before without thinking or planning too much 

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4 minutes ago, New guy said:

Pooran was also culprit last year when he went for wild slogs with 9 wickets left and rahul on the other side. He got out and Punjab choked with 9 wickets left and under run a ball required for over 3 overs and rahul still batting 

 

 

i think punjab won that game

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5 minutes ago, velu said:

 

i think punjab won that game

This match against KKR

 

https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/ipl-2020-21-1210595/kings-xi-punjab-vs-kolkata-knight-riders-24th-match-1216523/live-cricket-score

 

Needed 21 runs of 18 balls, 9 wicket in hands, rahul batting on 70

 

Next over (18th) Pooran slogs and out, punjab score 2 runs in that over. 

 

19th over 6 runs and 2 wickets lost including rahul, leaving 14 for last over

 

Finally punjab lost by 2 runs, just like yesterday 

 

 

 

Here it was tyagi, in that match prasidh. 

 

 

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