Shoaib Akhtar : Pakistani Punjabis are the superior race in the subcontinent

[First class]

13 hours ago, rangeelaraja said:

 

https://www.wionews.com/sports/fast-bowling-is-not-indias-forte-shoaib-akhtar-makes-a-weird-claim-on-superior-race-of-pakistani-punjabis-424344

 

 

 

Please listen him again and tell me where did he say , Punjabis are "superior race" ? you nuts. 

[Alam_dar]

17 minutes ago, Sandeep99 said:

Can these bakis compete against the intellect of south Indians? Or the enteprenural skills of gujaratis? Or the artistry of Bengalis? Or the athleticism of north east Indians? If anything, this statement from them only shows their bankruptcy and failure of paxtan as a nation. Cheap beggars.

 

This is it.

I don't feel offended if it is said that South Indians are intellectually higher than me.

I don't feel offended if it is said that Gujratis have excellent business skills. Same is about Bengalis and North East Indians. 

Thus if Akhtar feels that different attitude and diet of Pakistani Punjabis help them into developing good fast bowlers, then let it be his personal opinion, for which he should be so much condemned here. It is mainly happening due to the dishonest translation and this twitter handle must be condemned, but this condemnation is not happening. 

[Alam_dar]

55 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

Which translation ?

 

In the OP, there is video of Akhtar. He never claimed that Pakistani Punjabis are "superior race". It was the dishonesty of this twitter handle, and I am extremely against such Fanatics of BOTH SIDES. 

 

 

[aditya19]

3 hours ago, Mesky99 said:

Saina is from Hyderabad, trained by gopichand, Haryana had no real sporting culture until 2010 commonwealth games unlike Kerala, Tamil Nadu, north east, Goa. Earlier it was maharastra which had the best wrestlers

She is from haryanvi family..relocated to hyderabad. Rest ,whatever you may want to believe, I just stated facts.

[Mesky99]

1 hour ago, Alam_dar said:

 

There is absolutely no problem in condemning Akhtar for his Ghazwa Hind and Kashmir victory statement. 

 

There is absolutely no problem in disagreeing with him that Pakistani Punjabi have some different diet and different attitude. 

 

But as far as Superior Race translation is concerned, then it is dishonesty and agenda of hatred. Thus this twitter handle must be condemned here and not Akhtar. 

 

Regarding Akhtar's statement of Pakistani Punjabis having different diet and attitude, then it is a common perception in Pakistan, which may be right or may be wrong, but it is his personal opinion. 

 

My own honest observation is that Punjabi and Haryana languages are little bit more offensive languages as compared to Hindi/Urdu. This reflects the attitude of people of Punjab and Haryana, who also behave somewhat  more aggressively than the people who speak Hindu/Urdu. I may be wrong in my observation, but certainly I don't want to be labelled as racist due to this observation. 

Haryana is closer to marwari/ bagri/Rajasthani and braj basha, it's basically a Hindu dialect and no neither haryanvi or Punjabi sounds offensive, rural dialects of all languages can sound harsh.

[Mesky99]

1 hour ago, aditya19 said:

She is from haryanvi family..relocated to hyderabad. Rest ,whatever you may want to believe, I just stated facts.

Yhh and she learnt badminton in hyderabad so her success was due to the facilities provided to her in Hyderabad. 

[coffee_rules]

6 hours ago, Alam_dar said:

 

Thank you. 

 

What about the translation? 

People complaining about translation.. nothing wrong in OP. Tumhara aur @First class se behtar jaante hain , Urdu. If SA  says , Fast bowling is not Hindustan’s forte and adds “Tha hi nahin”, that means he’s an expert on history as well. And immediately says ,”Hum punjabi ek tagadi quom hain”, it should ws he’s comparing and how they are better. Then he goes on to compare Punjabis and Sindhi , Sami is from Karachi, and says he’s one of the best fast bowlers . He says their muscles are better, Baal (hair) .. he’s Facking talking about how better they are. Stop talking about bad translation.

Edited November 7, 2021 by coffee_rules

[kirkutfan]

2 hours ago, First class said:

I don;t need written translation , I understood what he said. And he did not say Punjabi's are superior race .  When it comes to his TV appearances, his comments on SM , I hate SA , most of the time he talks non-sense, but nothing wrong with what he said here. Most of the Pakistani fast bowlers come from Punjab and some from KP. No race is superior to another one but there is difference in other characteristics. Some are taller, some are shorter, some are physically stronger and hence they excel in some sports . Blacks are way ahead of whites in sports in USA but they are not a superior race , but they are taller and stronger. 

 

If you enjoy making up stores and nothing else to do in life , keep making like this. 

Very good. Disproportionate number of gadhey (donkeys)are also exported from Pak Punjab to China. Nothing wrong with what I said. Ulta, you should be proud ki such fine gadhey come from there. 

[rangeelaraja]

47 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

People complaining about translation.. nothing wrong in OP. Tumhara aur @First class se behtar jaante hain , Urdu. If he says , Fast bowling is not Hindustan’s forte and adds Tha hi nahin, that mean he’s an expert on history as well. And immediately says Hum punjabi ek tagadi quom hain. Shows he’s comparing, how they are better. Then goes on to compare Punjabis and Sindhi , Sami is from Karachi, and says he’s one of the best fast bowlers . He says their muscles are better, Baal (hair) .. he’s Facking talking about how better they are. Stop talking about Translation.

 

Posters like @First class  and @Alam_dar just want to pretend to be ignorant. They are attacking the twitter handle that posted it - Well WION news is one of the most reputed news outlets in India without a penchant for overdoing it  ( like Republic )  -- WION news picked up this tweet and for anyone with a little bit of common sense - it is obvious that Akhtar is talking about Pak Punjabi racial "superiority" with his comparisons of them to Indians. You have to be plain dumb to deny that.

 

 

People are also attacking the twitter handle as a hate spreading twitter handle -- well it is a handle that is against the anti-Hindu, anti-Indian hatred.

 

 

Please see below tweet -  what Yousuf Youhanna ( before conversion ) had to say about muslims and non-muslims here.

 

And then see the following tweet -   prominent Pak channels and PSL team owner Javed Afridi talking about converting Darren Sammy to Islam.

 

Then you shameless people talk about Islamophobia.  

 

If any foreign cricketer came in touch with a Hindu temple/sadhu etc..etc and explored embracing Hinduism, the shameless Pak cricketers, media, politicians would have spoken about " dangerous hindutva ideology" which Imran Khan keeps barking about.  But obviously what your ugly PSL owner Javed Afridi is shamelessly talking about is kosher. 

 

You deserve the hatred, humiliation and scorn coming your way because you are shameless dishonest hypocrites.  

 

 

 

 

 

Edited November 6, 2021 by rangeelaraja

[Vilander]

11 hours ago, speed_thrills said:

This is well understood.

 

But still every other major team outpace us more often then not. We need to change this trend and then perception about fast bowling being not our fore will change over a period of time.

He also said Pak Punjabi bowl fast due to their aggression lol... aggression apparently as if its a virtue. And you are suggesting BCCI find someone who bowls 155 a few times just for the sake of doing it? Pretty sure some track and field athletes will manage to bowl 160 a few balls and then breakdown promptly next over never to return bcci should debut them since the intellectual giant Akthar told Indians don't bowl fast? Hehe 

Edited November 6, 2021 by Vilander

[Vilander]

Dishonest shallow shameless unethical. No need to engage or give any importance. 

[Jungnu]

Haha... Aggressive super phaasstt Pak Pynjabi blower Soaib 

 

 

[Jay]

11 minutes ago, Vilander said:

He also said Pak Punjabi bowl fast due to their aggression lol... aggression apparently as if its a virtue. And you are suggesting BCCI find someone who bowls 155 a few times just for the sake of doing it? Pretty sure some track and field athletes will manage to bowl 160 a few balls and then breakdown promptly next over never to return bcci should debut them since the intellectual giant Akthar told Indians don't bowl fast? Hehe 

Go to rural areas. Pick some random young farm worker or ditch digger. Train him in fundamentals. People will be surprised at how strong and fast they can be. 

[Vancouver]

Pakistani Punjabi's are called Daal-Khor's by Pashtuns. Pathan's also make fun of Pakistani Punjabi's for excessive farting due to carbs consumption from wheat/lentils etc.

 

These Pakistani Punjabi would have been bitch of Pathans today if not for General Hari Singh Nalwa. Hari Singh put the fear of God in Pathans and steamrolled them till Kabul. If Afghani mothers wanted to scare their children they had to say “chup Shaw Haria raghly" (Go to sleep or Haria will come).

 

God bless this legend -

 

 

 

[First class]

70 plus posts on a twisted statement of a cricketer who is famous for saying non-sense things on SM but this time he did not say anything wrong. There are some very good posters on ICF, with very good knowledge of the game and I enjoy reading their comments but responses to this thread shows there is also no dearth of low level posters here too, they need a life and should try to write about cricket on this cricket forum , not the nonsense like these posts.

[rangeelaraja]

7 minutes ago, First class said:

70 plus posts on a twisted statement of a cricketer who is famous for saying non-sense things on SM but this time he did not say anything wrong. There are some very good posters on ICF, with very good knowledge of the game and I enjoy reading their comments but responses to this thread shows there is also no dearth of low level posters here too, they need a life and should try to write about cricket on this cricket forum , not the nonsense like these posts.

 

 

You are disgrace as are ALL your cricketers.  You say " a cricketer" ...it is not about " a cricketer" --- it is about ALL your cricketers.

 

What excuse do you have for the below - Saeed Anwar, Saqlain Mushtaq, Inzamam ul Haq...we all know about your PM.

 

 Your cricketers openly say visiting teams that tour Pakistan are given " deen ki dawat "  . 

 

Thats why it is a disgrace that Pak is still a cricket playing nation.  How do you justify all this ???/

 

 

 

 

 

[rangeelaraja]

44 minutes ago, First class said:

a cricketer who is famous for saying non-sense things on SM but this time he did not say anything wrong. 

 

 

Calling oneself " tagdi quom "  while comparing to India and other south asian sub races is " nothing wrong" 

 

Shows how sick and perverted you are.

[Jattputt]

I am from Indian Punjab where the culture is similar to Pakistan Punjab, but we have not produced express fast bowlers. Cricket is not very popular in Indian Punjab compared to Pak punjab. I think there are other reasons for Pakistan having fast bowlers.

[rkt.india]

9 hours ago, Alam_dar said:

 

 

When India won big against Afghanistan, then suddenly it became conspiracy of Afghans/Indian according to the fanatics of Pakistan. 

 

And then we have this thread, which is based solely upon the dishonest translation, but is being following blindly. 

 

 

This same Bollywood gave tons of films against Pakistan too, but all that has been forgotten. 

 

The equation according to the Extremists is always like this:  "There is nothing bad in us, and there is nothing good in the others."

 

And those, who disagree with them, then they will also be labelled as Traitor to the country, while these Extremists have the full monopoly upon the patriotism. 

 

We all are human beings. We all have good and bad sides. The opponents may be less good and more evil, but still they are also capable of doing some good things too. 

 

Bollywood follows this balanced approach. It has nowhere praised the terrorism from Pakistan. But not appreciating positive gestures and supporting the positive attitudes is going to make yourself too as evil as your enemy is. 

 

There is nothing wrong in Kohli's approach or Shami's approach that they are blamed to be the traitors of India. 

 

In fact, those who blame Kohli and Shami, they are wrong themselves, and they must be openly condemned for this. 

Bollywood has several fractions. The fraction that makes movies against pak is different than the fraction which Kohli is part of.

[First class]

1 hour ago, rangeelaraja said:

 

 

You are disgrace as are ALL your cricketers.  You say " a cricketer" ...it is not about " a cricketer" --- it is about ALL your cricketers.

 

What excuse do you have for the below - Saeed Anwar, Saqlain Mushtaq, Inzamam ul Haq...we all know about your PM.

 

 Your cricketers openly say visiting teams that tour Pakistan are given " deen ki dawat "  . 

 

Thats why it is a disgrace that Pak is still a cricket playing nation.  How do you justify all this ???/

 

 

 

 

You're wasting your time young man ( or kid ) , I give a damn to these cricketers non-cricketing activities and what they say . I don;t like crazy moulvis . I don;t hate any religion but don;t like people who don;t keep their religion as their personal matter and particularly hate this kind of utter non-sense you just posted . Lets move on to cricket and make sure don;t forget to do your home work.