Australia tour of Pakistan - 3 tests, 3 ODIs and 1 t20i

[Serpico]

We'll get a verdict on the pitch after shaheens first spell 

 

Btw Warner averages 108 against Pakistan with 1000+ runs. Lets see if he can maintain 80+ by the end of the series

[Jay]

2 minutes ago, Virat_Kulli_ki_main_khuli said:

 

he doesn't, he's the captain of Pakistan "Shaheens' Team. and has been for many years. Literally been scoring so much runs in domestic and overseas tours. recently vs SL A he put up a ton while batting out of position as an opener. and mind you 5 of the current players of SL team in SL vs Ind match were there including embuldeniya.

 

His age is catching to him, his LA and FC record is stellar, but Azhar bcc has been using seniority to stable his position. Dont let his current knock fool you, he has been averaging 37 since last 3 years, which includes series with zimbabwe

i know. injustice to fawad as well. 

[Serpico]

1 minute ago, Virat_Kulli_ki_main_khuli said:

 

dude stick to bias for all your worth, Tri format is not even discussable as rizwan is leagues ahead. But in Tests only, here's a reality check for you to go cry in the corner for with that overrated hack.

 

TESTS ONLY

Rizwan average in australia 45

Rizwan average in england 41

Rizwan average in new zealand 43

Rizwan average in SA yet to bat

Rizwan average at home 57

 

Pant average in australia 62

Pant average in england 23

Pant average in new zealand 15

Pant average in south africa 37

Pant average at home 74

 

Lorai ka phest wk batsman, fluke honeymoon period in australia and statpadding at home. useless everywhere else he plays and mind you he has a good sample size in each country.

 

Rizwan can play in every condition and is a superior glovesman by far. If that doesnt dazzle you, then i hope you stick to ipl

So Rizwan is better in Eng and Nz? Even if we ignore the fact that both of them rolled out roads against Pakistan and scored 500+ in those series, thats just 2 places. Pant is miles ahead at home and in Aus and he is 5 years younger

[Jay]

rizwan is better in n.z 100%. he is better vs swing. he outperformed pant in england but yes those pitches happen to be a bit flat. 

 

swing friendly pitch = rizwan 

bounce pitch = pant 

spin = pant

flat road = more or less equal i guess?

 

pant has struggled in west indies, n.z and to an extent in england. 

 

excelled everywhere else. 

 

rizwan is more solid everywhere but doesnt excel as much as pant in non swing friendly wickets. 

 

i wouldnt mind either keeper but i am happy with pant. 

match winner btw probably pant.

[Lone Wolf]

Absolute borefest on a third class pitch.  No Pace no bounce ultra slow turn too..  Ball barely coming over knee roll...  Just pathetic for cricket.  

Even our Rajkot flat beds have more pace than this Pindi track. 

[Jay]

4 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

Absolute borefest on a third class pitch.  No Pace no bounce ultra slow turn too..  Ball barely coming over knee roll...  Just pathetic for cricket.  

Even our Rajkot flat beds have more pace than this Pindi track. 

atleast game is on. super boring though. Lets just hope to see a full series first. pakistan need to win vs aussies period. Try and win 2 0 or 2 - 1 atleast.

[AuxiliA]

Rizwan is an excellent wicket keeper batsman and Pakistan's current MVP imo. He's better than Pant in many aspects but I wouldn't trade Pant for him coz of Pant's counter attacking prowess and his age. Pant type players are rare. 

[Lone Wolf]

4 minutes ago, Jay said:

atleast game is on. super boring though. Lets just hope to see a full series first. pakistan need to win vs aussies period. Try and win 2 0 or 2 - 1 atleast.

I don't think Aussies will roll over that easily...  They probably thought this pitch will assist pace as it used to do in 2000's but not the case anymore.  Expecting at least one win from Aussies..  Especially if they win the toss. 

[Norman]

25 minutes ago, Virat_Kulli_ki_main_khuli said:

Cant get over that sound, im so glad cricket has returned, seriously as a cricket fan in general the home feeling was missed so much!

 

Congratulations. 

 

I have always genuinely wanted Pakistan to host teams at home after getting tired of the lifeless UAE. Of course with Pakistan, you never know when the plug gets out of the socket again but it's good for cricket in general if you guys get regular top class cricket at home. 

[Jay]

6 minutes ago, Virat_Kulli_ki_main_khuli said:

 

you havent done your hw. Pakistani pitches detiorate significantly on 4th and 5th day. chances of collapses will occur as much as chances of not getting a wicket in the first 2 days.

 

To excel on pakistani pitches, the team must be perfectly all round in all 3 categories, Bat, Pace, Spin. The team with more all rounders and superstars in the three categories will more often then not emerge winners on these pitches.

For these conditions Aussies pace is useless. Spin is ok. Batting is God if Smith labu warner fire. 

 

Bowling depends on shaheen and spinners for pakistan

[Lone Wolf]

13 minutes ago, Virat_Kulli_ki_main_khuli said:

 

you havent done your hw. Pakistani pitches detiorate significantly on 4th and 5th day. chances of collapses will occur as much as chances of not getting a wicket in the first 2 days.

 

To excel on pakistani pitches, the team must be perfectly all round in all 3 categories, Bat, Pace, Spin. The team with more all rounders and superstars in the three categories will more often then not emerge winners on these pitches.

Ghanta...  Karachi pitch vs SA was turning on Day 1..  Pindi pitch had decent bounce as well.  Go watch highlights lodu...  Phuddu pitch bnai hai ye 

[vvvslaxman]

Australians are not in right frame of mind. I expect them to fold on a pitch where they can easily make 600 runs if they show some applicaiton.

[Lone Wolf]

Whole world knows its a fattu pitch...  Even Hafeez is calling a spade a spade

 

[Lone Wolf]

Can we please rename the thread title to the correct "Osaka Batteries Presents TikTok Benaud-Qadir Trophy"

[Jay]

23 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

Australians are not in right frame of mind. I expect them to fold on a pitch where they can easily make 600 runs if they show some applicaiton.

That's a lame excuse. Warne is a legend and he died. If anything they should want to win the test series for him. If they Bend over warney won't be happy. I don't think they will win the series anyway. 2-1 or 2 0 pakistam. 

 

Palistan zindabad. 

[QuarantineTormentino]

Very weird innings by Pak.. declared out of nowhere and didn’t even go for their shots when they were close to declaring. Bizarre tactics

[Lord]

Lyon

[rageaddict]

No matter how flat the pitch might be, there's always a scoreboard pressure. Hope Australia don't lose early wickets tomorrow because there's only one team that can win from here, which is Pakistan .

[raki05]

4 hours ago, Virat_Kulli_ki_main_khuli said:

legitmate atg talent in Saud Shakeel and now he is 27 ffs

What is legitimate, not fixer or chucker. BTW only in Pakistan players become ATG even before debut.

[Lone Wolf]

33 minutes ago, Virat_Kulli_ki_main_khuli said:

 

Ghanta...   Why do you think I said being faceted in all 3 department equally instead of one attribute is a requirement for pakistan then? Seems like the SA vs PAK match youre looking at hasnt been properly looked into by you. Here let me help.

 

PAK vs SA 1st test (Karachi) - Nauman and Yasir were the bowling heroes

 

PAK vs SA 2nd test (Pindi) - Hasan and Shaheen were the bowling heroes

 

In both games Pakistan and SA had a total of 15 batsmen who scored 50+ runs in an innings, contributing to the batting attribute available by the pitch.

 

In both games SA's Rabada, Nortje and Maharaj worked. 

 

Is Pindi's pitch made more of a road then usual? Yes. Why? because Rawalpindi has rain forecasted, and this move by PCB will push the game for a result.

 

Otherwise usually Pakistan pitches need 1 superstar batsman, 1 superstar pacer and 1 superstar spinner. And the more all rounders, the merrier.

Abe lodu this is what I exactly was saying jaahil...  You are the one saying this is a typical Pakistani pitch which brings all three facets into play...  Now that has been cleared that it is a pathetic pitch by everyone you are clutching straws & doing mental gymnastics now.   I didn't say Karachi & Pindi wickets were poor vs SA...  I said those were different...  One assisted spin & other was good for pace..  This is neither. It's pathetic excuse of a pitch & Ghanta result oriented.   Either Aussies implode otherwise it has draw written all over it.