[Kohli average watch thread] Will Kohli ever average above 50 again?

[nevada]

1 hour ago, sarchasm said:

This loser is frankly a Vengasarkar level bat.

In a way, yes. Kohli's peak covered up his technical deficiencies and made him appear way better than he actually is. At-least Vengsarkar had the determination to take up the challenge of doing well on moody English wickets and talent to take on spin on rank turners. Lord Kohli can't be bothered with such petty things, he prefers only flat wickets. 

[sensible-indian]

On 3/13/2023 at 11:02 PM, putrevus said:

So if Ashwin and Jadeja have benefitted from tailor made spinning wickets then Kohli should be the king.

 

He averages nearly 60 at home on these spinning wickets even after his three year funk. No other Indian batsmen in history is even close to him.

 

No Sachin, no Gavaskar , no Dravd, they are not even close to this guy at home.

Oh dear lord.

 

I could destroy this myth but i have no energy.

 

Kohlis average at home is misleading AF.

 

Pujara is 10x the batsman that Kohli is on home pitches.

 

Kohli heavily statpadded at home against weak teams on flat tracks while failing on almost all tough tracks and tough oppositions...barring a few exceptions.

 

Kohlis in the 2018 away tours was legendary and thats something no one can take away from him.

Edited June 12, 2023 by sensible-indian

[Sandz]

17 hours ago, Nikola said:

 

He has to work on his technique, you have WI & SA series now to improve that average. 32 innings is good sample size. He has to make comeback to compete with root for next few years. At the moment he is much ahead of kane no matter what stats says.

That’s so bad, almost Mongia level batting average, it’s unlikely that he will improve that by much but there is every chance of it getting worse.

[Frustrated]

Smith and Chokli both are of the same age(34) and debuted at the same time.  The former made his debut as a leg spinner and steadily transformed himself into a batting legend (GOAT).    Chokli on the other hand, made his debut as a decent batsman.  And has proudly transformed himself into a Full Time Nautankibaaj/Dramebaaz whose only role is to feed instagram stories and reels.  And still has no regret/guilt.  

[rkt.india]

if he plays next 2-3 years, he might end up around 45.

[Vijy]

3 hours ago, rkt.india said:

if he plays next 2-3 years, he might end up around 45.

Let's hope he plays until then. he can become a roughly Azhar level batter

[vvvslaxman]

15 hours ago, Vijy said:

Let's hope he plays until then. he can become a roughly Azhar level batter

 

Even in c urrent form He is probably not even in top 5 in India. If any youngster had played as many matches as he played in the last 3 yeasr they probably would have had better numbers.

[Vijy]

39 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

Even in c urrent form He is probably not even in top 5 in India. If any youngster had played as many matches as he played in the last 3 yeasr they probably would have had better numbers.

he is not in top 5 as of now on home pitches: jaiswal, sarfaraz, rohit, mayank, pant, etc would be above him. not sure about overseas, since some (like sarfaraz) are not that good. still, he should have been booted a while back

[rkt.india]

1 hour ago, Vijy said:

he is not in top 5 as of now on home pitches: jaiswal, sarfaraz, rohit, mayank, pant, etc would be above him. not sure about overseas, since some (like sarfaraz) are not that good. still, he should have been booted a while back

Sarfaraz technique wise is much better than Kohli and is a free flowing stroke maker on both front and back foot unlike Kohli who lunges on the front foot irrespective of the length. Sarfaraz needs to be picked and given long rope. Drop Pujara, let Rahane bat at 3 for Wi tour as he scored runs here and may not get dropped immediately. Kohli also needs rest.    

[vvvslaxman]

We  have to be open-minded about new comers before summarily dismissing them especially looking at wrong formats. If they fail in their strong format after a run fair enough. But discarding even before entering is why we are stuck with these dead woods. 

[RajBan]

Kohli is a very Average test batsman at the end of his career. Those 2 years in 2017-18 were massive but otherwise he has been bang average. Infact I have forgotten when is the last time he has played a memorable innings in Test in fighting conditions.

[vvvslaxman]

3 minutes ago, RajBan said:

Kohli is a very Average test batsman at the end of his career. Those 2 years in 2017-18 were massive but otherwise he has been bang average. Infact I have forgotten when is the last time he has played a memorable innings in Test in fighting conditions.

 

HE is rapidly getting closer to Pujara/Rahane level.

[Vijy]

2 hours ago, rkt.india said:

Sarfaraz technique wise is much better than Kohli and is a free flowing stroke maker on both front and back foot unlike Kohli who lunges on the front foot irrespective of the length. Sarfaraz needs to be picked and given long rope. Drop Pujara, let Rahane bat at 3 for Wi tour as he scored runs here and may not get dropped immediately. Kohli also needs rest.    

sarfaraz has real issue with high pace, but should still be selected for now

[sage]

7 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

HE is rapidly getting closer to Pujara/Rahane level.

Both of those two have sunk to a level below where they were though 

[Vijy]

21 minutes ago, sage said:

Both of those two have sunk to a level below where they were though 

he is getting to the level they were pre-sinking

[rkt.india]

12 hours ago, Vijy said:

sarfaraz has real issue with high pace, but should still be selected for now

when did you see sarfaraz having issue with high pace?

[Stan AF]

On 6/12/2023 at 11:50 PM, rkt.india said:

if he plays next 2-3 years, he might end up around 45.

I pray that happens. His fans need that reality check.

[Vijy]

16 hours ago, rkt.india said:

when did you see sarfaraz having issue with high pace?

In IPL, in 2nd test vs SA A, even some Bang A bowlers in high 130s troubled him

[vvvslaxman]

4 hours ago, Vijy said:

In IPL, in 2nd test vs SA A, even some Bang A bowlers in high 130s troubled him

 

In the under-19 world cup he was sort of a crisis man for India. Even in the final he was the one who made a 50

 

https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/icc-under-19-world-cup-2015-16-949357/india-under-19s-vs-west-indies-under-19s-final-949797/full-scorecard

 

In the final both Alzaari and  Chemari Holder were clocking 135 kph. After Pant casually getting stumped by Keeper of Alzaari Joseph in a weird way India was imploding.

 

 

Edited June 15, 2023 by vvvslaxman

[Tillu]