Indian squad for Wt20 announced.

[vvvslaxman]

6 hours ago, Downtown said:

Can someone please injure Chahal and KL Rahul and put them in Hospital for 3 months?!

 

Ever since Chahal talked about the story of bullying people have a soft corner for him.

[Frustrated]

4 minutes ago, cric_fan said:

Seeing Bumrah’s name there makes a huge difference to this side. Looks much more balanced.

He does not hv a good record vs Pak in the LOIs.   Nor against SA.     But yeah, better than having an all- trundler attack which played in asia cup. Overall, team selection leaves us with a lot more questions than answers.  

[raki05]

6 hours ago, Downtown said:

Can someone please injure Chahal and KL Rahul and put them in Hospital for 3 months?!

And Bhuvi chacha....we might have to take matter in our hand.

[raki05]

 I am seeing future selectors in our  trundling quartet of Bhuvi , Avesh , Chahal and Harshal.

 

[maniac]

What a fairytale  sign off it will be for Rohit and DK if they can sign off with a WT20 win after winning the inaugural edition. Some positivity among a rightfully negative thread :)

[BacktoCricaddict]

1 hour ago, maniac said:

What a fairytale  sign off it will be for Rohit and DK if they can sign off with a WT20 win

 

[MK55]

Haven’t watched cricket in a couple of months. 3/4 pacers in our squad for Australia are BK, Harshal, Arshdeep? Lol seriously. This team has got so dull to watch. I think I’m gonna skip the tournament lol. 

[Mohan Swamy]

Now that we have this **** squad, I hope they find a way to give the role of spin bashing to Rahul in the middle order. That is more likely to work than him opening.

 

Rohit

Pant/Hooda

Kohli

Surya

Rahul

Pandya

DK

Axar

Harshal

Bumrah

Arshdeep

 

This in my opinion is the best lineup from what we have.

[Ankit_sharma03]

On 9/12/2022 at 9:13 AM, CG said:

What are these guys smoking.The Wc is in Australia .Harshal Patel and bhuvi will find it difficult there.Finger spinners are useless in Australia,

 

Eco of indian bowlers in t20i in Australia , count number of finger spinners . 

 

1. Kuldeep- 5.50
2. bhuvi 6.80
3. Nattu- 6.91
4. yuvi - 7.20
5. Sundar 7.80
6. Ashwin - 7.40
7. Jadeja- 7.82
8. Nehra - 8 
9. Raina- 8
10. Bumrah- 8.08

 

 

These spinners wont work, slower ones wont work are such baseless theories  in Australia. Leggies do better coz they get that extra bounce but Australian pitches generally will give that . 

One of the biggest factor ppl forget is the size of boundaries which gives spinners and slower ball bowlers a lot of wkts .  Yuvraj singh was used specially to counter maxwell in one of the series we played there and he was extremely successful at that 

Edited September 15, 2022 by Ankit_sharma03

[vvvslaxman]

22 hours ago, maniac said:

What a fairytale  sign off it will be for Rohit and DK if they can sign off with a WT20 win after winning the inaugural edition. Some positivity among a rightfully negative thread :)

 

You know they played together in challenger Trophy even before Rohit made debut.  I distinctly remember calling Rohit sharma as right handed Yuvraj.  

 

This was 2007 Challenge Trophy Final. Rohit and DK played for  Green team.  Rohit was not part of the XI. But DK was. Won the Final for them. Times have changed. Rohit is captain now. DK's selection is at the mercy of Rohit. 

 

https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/nkp-salve-challenger-trophy-2007-08-306284/india-blue-vs-india-red-final-306384/full-scorecard

 

In 2006 Both Rohit and DK were part of the same team. Red team. Look at the batting position of DK and Rohit. 

 

https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/nkp-salve-challenger-trophy-2006-07-254429/india-green-vs-india-red-260495/full-scorecard

 

I recorded highlights of this match and uploaded to youtube. Youtube took it out citing copyrights infringement.
 

Edited September 15, 2022 by vvvslaxman

[vvvslaxman]

4 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Eco of indian bowlers in t20i in Australia , count number of finger spinners . 

 

1. Kuldeep- 5.50
2. bhuvi 6.80
3. Nattu- 6.91
4. yuvi - 7.20
5. Sundar 7.80
6. Ashwin - 7.40
7. Jadeja- 7.82
8. Nehra - 8 
9. Raina- 8
10. Bumrah- 8.08

 

 

These spinners wont work, slower ones wont work are such baseless theories  in Australia. Leggies do better coz they get that extra bounce but Australian pitches generally will give that . 

One of the biggest factor ppl forget is the size of boundaries which gives spinners and slower ball bowlers a lot of wkts .  Yuvraj singh was used specially to counter maxwell in one of the series we played there and he was extremely successful at that 

 

I agree we can't categorically say one way or the other. Peter siddle was the highest wicket taker in the 2022 edition of BBL. Andre Tye is still there among wickets albeit they go at 8 an over.  Ashton Agar a fairy tale test debut with bat making 98 batting at no.11 and disappeared. Now he is one of the leading spinner for Australia. Very miserly.

[Ankit_sharma03]

9 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

I agree we can't categorically say one way or the other. Peter siddle was the highest wicket taker in the 2022 edition of BBL. Andre Tye is still there among wickets albeit they go at 8 an over.  Ashton Agar a fairy tale test debut with bat making 98 batting at no.11 and disappeared. Now he is one of the leading spinner for Australia. Very miserly.

u cant put anything categorically , even comparing ash to any other finger spinner coz no one has the variety that he has 

At the end it comes down to bowling well 

 

Agar has 2 -5wkt haul in t20 one in NZ and other in SA.........another places not known to help finger spinners and have shorter boundaries then Australia. 

[vvvslaxman]

3 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

u cant put anything categorically , even comparing ash to any other finger spinner coz no one has the variety that he has 

At the end it comes down to bowling well 

 

Agar has 2 -5wkt haul in t20 one in NZ and other in SA.........another places not known to help finger spinners and have shorter boundaries then Australia. 

 

Agar is an accurate arm ball specialist.  And he has a carrom ball now. 

[vvvslaxman]

Decide the roles and then the team?  or pick the team and assign the roles?

 

 

Dasher

Dasher+consoldiator

Dasher+consolidator

Dasher

Dasher+consolidator

Finisher+part time bowling or keeping

Finisher+main bowling 

Dasher+main bowling

Main bowling with a bit of batting skill

Main bowling

main bowling

 

 

[Ankit_sharma03]

10 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

Agar is an accurate arm ball specialist.  And he has a carrom ball now. 

variety - my point is if finger spinner have enough tools and accuracy they shudnt be judged on basis that they are just finger spinners 

 

[putrevus]

23 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

You know they played together in challenger Trophy even before Rohit made debut.  I distinctly remember calling Rohit sharma as right handed Yuvraj.  

 

This was 2007 Challenge Trophy Final. Rohit and DK played for  Green team.  Rohit was not part of the XI. But DK was. Won the Final for them. Times have changed. Rohit is captain now. DK's selection is at the mercy of Rohit. 

 

https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/nkp-salve-challenger-trophy-2007-08-306284/india-blue-vs-india-red-final-306384/full-scorecard

 

In 2006 Both Rohit and DK were part of the same team. Red team. Look at the batting position of DK and Rohit. 

 

https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/nkp-salve-challenger-trophy-2006-07-254429/india-green-vs-india-red-260495/full-scorecard

 

I recorded highlights of this match and uploaded to youtube. Youtube took it out citing copyrights infringement.
 

With DK it was never a question of his talent. I have never seen more talented WK batsman who is so mentally weak.It is not like he is just a pure slogger, he does have more than enough technique to handle any bowling in any conditions.

 

He simply caves under pressure or if he has to think both as a keeper and batsman.He got more than enough chances to proves his talent in tests and 50 overs.His stats don't justify his talent.

 

He is a prime case of a sportsman who could have benefitted talking to psychologist.It is taboo topic but BCCI should hire a psychologist and let these players talk to them regularly.

[putrevus]

22 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

Decide the roles and then the team?  or pick the team and assign the roles?

 

 

Dasher

Dasher+consoldiator

Dasher+consolidator

Dasher

Dasher+consolidator

Finisher+part time bowling or keeping

Finisher+main bowling 

Dasher+main bowling

Main bowling with a bit of batting skill

Main bowling

main bowling

 

 

Dasher

Dasher+consoldiator

Dasher+consolidator

Dasher

Dasher+consolidator

Finisher+part time bowling or keeping

Finisher+main bowling 

Dasher+main bowling

Main bowling with a bit of batting skill

Main bowling

main bowling 

 

You find those players, you will have a world class team. But where are those players?

[vvvslaxman]

36 minutes ago, putrevus said:

Dasher

Dasher+consoldiator

Dasher+consolidator

Dasher

Dasher+consolidator

Finisher+part time bowling or keeping

Finisher+main bowling 

Dasher+main bowling

Main bowling with a bit of batting skill

Main bowling

main bowling 

 

You find those players, you will have a world class team. But where are those players?

 

In all honesty we have to find the closest possible instead of picking players from pecking order. This format itself is a joke format. You don't really have to be a technical wizard to be successful in this format. You just need "special skillset" . If Root were to play for India he would be playing T20 for us. Because he is a senior. And also there is no concept of "potential" in T20. Either you have it NOW or you don't have it NOW. Sure you can improve in this format in the future. India can always revisit. I am talking about Pant. He is being backed purely based on potential. Few seaons back KKR had a similar line up. Last season CSK had somewhat similar line up. Depth in both department with t20 skill sets. 

[putrevus]

53 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

In all honesty we have to find the closest possible instead of picking players from pecking order. This format itself is a joke format. You don't really have to be a technical wizard to be successful in this format. You just need "special skillset" . If Root were to play for India he would be playing T20 for us. Because he is a senior. And also there is no concept of "potential" in T20. Either you have it NOW or you don't have it NOW. Sure you can improve in this format in the future. India can always revisit. I am talking about Pant. He is being backed purely based on potential. Few seaons back KKR had a similar line up. Last season CSK had somewhat similar line up. Depth in both department with t20 skill sets. 

Pant is backed for his talent and rightly so. They are not giving him the optimal batting position. You cannot expect everyone to succeed in all formats all the time. Pant is only legimate big hitter after Rohit in this team who has ability to handle any type of bowling. Pant to me is not the problem. Captains are the problem.

 

But other than that India does not have any big hitting fast or spin bowler.That is why Jadeja is still around.What is finisher's Pandya SR.How often has he fired.Let SKY do something against good bowling attack in crunch match first.

 

It is sad truth but batting wise India does not have big hitters nor it has bowlers who can bat. 

 

Pant

Rohit

Kohli

SKY

Pandya

DK

 

This lineup can compete against any team. I would go with this lineup against Pakistan.You will negate Afridi to some extent. Rahul and Rohit will be sitting ducks against him no matter what they do if Afridi even gets close.

 

Edited September 16, 2022 by putrevus

[xavierGUNZ]

My first ever post here! 

 

This is the squad everyone expects from india, so why not? 

 

I do not understand the complaints, the biggest issue is that bar Bumrah India have not fronted a world beating LO bowler in recent history and if we look at the batting well its the same old hands because the new guys are one hit wonders.