7-0-41-1, England spinners

[vvvslaxman]

India made 127 in 13 overs against other bowlers. It is good to pick a player based on how they can play pace in Australia. But  who will address this problem. We could have played Hooda. This is the same Hooda came one down and smacked the living daylights out of Moeen. His cameo helped us India get to 198 in England.  Wish we had Shreyas as a back up. 

[R!TTER]

The biggest issue is mentality, they don't like to get stumped/won't play slog sweep/reverse sweep & won't *ing try to upset the length of these *ers! This is a deliberate tactic & you won't get better results till that changes 

[Laaloo]

Wtf was the point of axar in any of these matches? Such a useless selection. Should have stacked the side with batting like England does although their batsmen can bowl as well and not useless like ours.

[Serpico]

Dravid should have continued to use axar as pinch hitter against spinners

[nitinbwj]

32 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

India made 127 in 13 overs against other bowlers. It is good to pick a player based on how they can play pace in Australia. But  who will address this problem. We could have played Hooda. This is the same Hooda came one down and smacked the living daylights out of Moeen. His cameo helped us India get to 198 in England.  Wish we had Shreyas as a back up. 

Hooda and Iyer. The spin bashers. Absolutely must. Even SKY isn't a spin basher. 

Edited November 10, 2022 by nitinbwj

[dilliboy]

Pick Pant because he can tackle the England spinners.

Proceed to play out Rashid and Livingstone at less than 6 RPO and send Pant with 2 overs to spare.

Brilliant think tank, just marvelous

[Clarke]

2 minutes ago, Serpico said:

Dravid should have continued to use axar as pinch hitter against spinners

 

33 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

We could have played Hooda. This is the same Hooda came one down and smacked the living daylights out of Moeen. His cameo helped us India get to 198 in England.  Wish we had Shreyas as a back up. 

 

Ok, they're both reflective of jugaad approach. The moment they remove spin, what do these guys do against good short pitch bowling ? Should they retire for the inning so that SKY can attack ?

 

Basically, why dont we have players capable of hitting both pace & spin ? 

[vvvslaxman]

3 minutes ago, dilliboy said:

Pick Pant because he can tackle the England spinners.

Proceed to play out Rashid and Livingstone at less than 6 RPO and send Pant with 2 overs to spare.

Brilliant think tank, just marvelous

 

Match ups work only when the batting order is flexible. If you are going to send the same top 4 in the same order in every match match ups mean nothing.

[coffee_rules]

6-0-63-0 is where we lost in the PP. Spinners were done in by then

[vvvslaxman]

1 minute ago, Clarke said:

 

 

Ok, they're both reflective of jugaad approach. The moment they remove spin, what do these guys do against good short pitch bowling ? Should they retire for the inning so that SKY can attack ?

 

Basically, why dont we have players capable of hitting both pace & spin ? 

 

Just because Hooda is very good against spin doesn't mean he is very weak against pace. 

 Hooda vs pace 143 balls 222 runs

[vvvslaxman]

Just now, MultiB48 said:

Pathetic,should be dominating them on this, should be the other way round.40 runs difference right there.

 

These are  flat pitches. Pretty much any slogger would have thrashed them. And also England had no express pace bowler there.

[vvvslaxman]

1 minute ago, MultiB48 said:

Too afraid of playing shots against spinners.

 

Livingstone hardly turned the ball.

[aditya19]

Its a pretty boring team in t20, days of uv, raina msd are over. We must start looking at lower order perfomances in t20s for selecting players.

[nitinbwj]

Eng read the pitch well. Buttler immediately knew that he would chase. Ind having known his intent should have known that 150-160 is nothing against this team here. That PP sucked big time. Pandya, Kohli took their time and only attacked in the last 5 as they knew that there is NOTHING after them. We had only 2-3 batsmen and after SKY's predictable failure against spin, this was expected. We didn't had the batsmen or the bowlers to do anything challenging on this wicket. Had we played on the pitch where we thrashed Zim by 70 runs, it would have been tough for Eng. 

[maniac]

One of them was a part timer. I honestly don’t think Livingstone is a better bowler than Hooda or Rohit (when he used to bowl)

[Clarke]

1 hour ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

Just because Hooda is very good against spin doesn't mean he is very weak against pace. 

 Hooda vs pace 143 balls 222 runs

 

Even Axar/Jaddu at times seem good in Indian or patta conditions. We've seen him struggle a lot to finish & seemed at sea in Aus. 

[vvvslaxman]

16 minutes ago, Clarke said:

 

Even Axar/Jaddu at times seem good in Indian or patta conditions. We've seen him struggle a lot to finish & seemed at sea in Aus. 

 

How does Pakistan cowlashers score runs? Are they bounce experts?  And what about the bounce experts we have? We folded like a pack of cards at Perth.  

[vvvslaxman]

17 minutes ago, Clarke said:

 

Even Axar/Jaddu at times seem good in Indian or patta conditions. We've seen him struggle a lot to finish & seemed at sea in Aus. 

 

He played like 2 balls. IN the warm up game he did okay.

[Clarke]

4 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

How does Pakistan cowlashers score runs? Are they bounce experts?  And what about the bounce experts we have? We folded like a pack of cards at Perth.  

Pak brings in Nawaz during middle overs like a low risk high upside option and he hits a couple at least. This guy is full time batsman and appears like a fool at times. Have seen him dismissed off a no ball and then again during end overs with single digit score. I mean English/Aus/Pak tailenders are less limited in their scope. 

[badmash]

There was a reason why Ashwin was dropped from T20 after Afridi hit those 2 sixes off him. 
 

Not sure why y’all brought him back that too in a T20 WC