MICHAEL VAUGHAN: India are the most under-performing team in white-ball history

[sage]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket/2022/11/10/india-under-performing-team-white-ball-history/

 

India are the most under-performing white-ball team in history. Every player in the world who goes to the Indian Premier League says how it improves their game but what have India ever delivered?

Since winning the 50 over World Cup on home soil in 2011 what have they done? Nothing. India are playing a white-ball game that is dated and have done for years.

How they have not maximised someone like Rishabh Pant is incredible. In this era, put him up the top to launch it. How have they only got five bowling options when you think 10 or 15 years ago all of India’s top six could bowl a little bit – Sachin Tendulkar, Suresh Raina, Virender Sehwag and even Sourav Ganguly? None of the batsmen bowl so the captain has only got five options.

I’m just staggered by how they play T20 cricket for the talent they have. They have the players, but just do not have the right process in place. They have to go for it. Why do they give the opposition bowlers the first five overs to bed in?

We know in T20 cricket the stats tell you a team needs a spinner who can turn it both ways. India have plenty of leg-spinners. Where are they?

They have a left-armer in Arshdeep Singh who swings it back into the right-handers. So what do they do defending 168? They put on Bhuvneshwar Kumar bowling outswing to give Jos Buttler and Alex Hales width. Where is the left-arm seamer swinging it in to Buttler and Hales in the first over? Madness. Cramp them for room. Do not give them a chance to get off to a flyer in the first over and settle nerves. 

It is fantastic what India brings to cricket with the IPL and their fans. To see 88,000 at the MCG for a dead rubber against Zimbabwe was marvellous for the game. They are so important for world cricket but for all the advantages India have, they must win more.

 

Even in their own backyard at the 2016 World T20 they did not reach the final. They were nowhere last year. This time it took an outrageous innings by Virat Kohli, probably the best in T20 of all time, to beat Pakistan in the group stages. They massively underachieve for their skill levels.

It was a wise decision to bowl first. I thought it was a big risk because England defend so well but the reason they did it was because Kohli is a brilliant chaser. They played on his mind by setting him the challenge.

India have to be honest now. What happens when India arrive at a World Cup? Everyone plays them up. Nobody wants to criticise them because you get hammered on social media and pundits worry about losing work in India one day. But it is time to tell it straight. They can hide behind their great players but it is about getting a team playing the right way as a whole. Their bowling options are too few, they do not bat deep enough and lack spin tricks.

 

[R!TTER]

This guy is a *ing broken record, the ones playing in IPL absolutely improve their LO game - without IPL Eng wouldn't win the 2019 WC, but Indians don't play other leagues so the (different) conditions can greatly impact their output! If it were played in India there's a 50/50 chance India could've demolished both SA & Eng here - playing in different conditions through various franchise leagues improves your overall game, it's not rocket science you dumb*

[nitinbwj]

I agree to everything that he has said. 

[badmash]

I agree and fully support this comment from Michael Vaughan

[Suhaan]

Very honest review of Indian LOI cricket,which is going nowhere

[express bowling]

Finally a very good and bold analysis by Vaughn instead of his usual trolling.

 

Most of what he says is right.

 

How I wish the Indian commentators and analysts had the guts to say the same. 

 

This is the kind of straight talk we need from ex-cricketers instead of sucking up and behaving like fan boys.

Edited November 11, 2022 by express bowling

[R!TTER]

Just now, express bowling said:

Finally a very good and bold analysis by Vaughn instead of his usual trolling.

This is the same guy who gets paid by Cricbuzz & bigs up the "IPL" superstars when he's on the official broadcasters' payroll like SKY sports just a year back! He's an A grade asshole & probably racist prick as well, what he's saying has been acknowledged by pretty much everyone on ICF for years now! So what's his solution to this? "Go express yourself" or some other BS cliched *ing one liner?

[Vickydev]

Brutal. But Honest. That's what a hammering like that brings around. 

 

Have to agree on a few points, We just don't see many IPL teams where depth in batting is brought on by Indian players its mostly overseas players who do that. #8 of every team is an overseas player outside of maybe RCB (Harshal), DC(Thakur) who are both not good enough as bowling options, and then there is lack of Indian batters taking up bowling responsibility. Who is among the upcoming talents is actually doing that? 

 

We need 2 decent bowling options in the top 6 and one of the key bowlers to contribute with the bat. Without either we lack options and the risk taking from the guys at the top of the order is negligible

[aditya19]

If you look at last couple of ipl the quality is coming down. Hardik winning it has to be a joke. We need to stop looking at accumulators but look at powerful strikers in t20. For bowling bhuvi is on a decline, needs to be replaced.

[Lone Wolf]

Wow brilliant & honest from Vaughn....  I'll appoint him as Chairman of selectors overnight if it were up to me. 

Third class cheap a*** old WW2 era selection committee & system. 

As Akhtar usually says...  Average bande Average result.  Indian cricket 100% fits the bill. 

Edited November 11, 2022 by Lone Wolf

[rkt.india]

Rohit hasn't done anything great in T20 cricket even in IPL for years but we expect him to win us world cup with the bat.

[prudent_kreeda]

16 minutes ago, R!TTER said:

This is the same guy who gets paid by Cricbuzz & bigs up the "IPL" superstars when he's on the official broadcasters' payroll like SKY sports just a year back! He's an A grade asshole & probably racist prick as well, what he's saying has been acknowledged by pretty much everyone on ICF for years now! So what's his solution to this? "Go express yourself" or some other BS cliched *ing one liner?

But admit the honesty in telling the truth. He could also lose money from indian media for this . Our indian senior retired players, now commies ,journalists who should be more concerned about indian cricket , what did one hear from them after this bashing ?  

[express bowling]

39 minutes ago, R!TTER said:

This is the same guy who gets paid by Cricbuzz & bigs up the "IPL" superstars when he's on the official broadcasters' payroll like SKY sports just a year back! He's an A grade asshole & probably racist prick as well, what he's saying has been acknowledged by pretty much everyone on ICF for years now! So what's his solution to this? "Go express yourself" or some other BS cliched *ing one liner?

 

Vaughn is an assh0le and a troll. He has come up with lots of dubious statements in the past.

 

BUT what he says here is Very Very True. 

 

We need more such brutally honest statements from big names.

Edited November 11, 2022 by express bowling

[Mosher]

Vaughan is a bit of a troll and says **** to get a reaction but he's right on the money here. Something which most of us in ICF have been saying for a while. 

[Mosher]

1 minute ago, express bowling said:

 

Vaughn is an assh0le and a troll. He has come up with lots of dubious statements in the past.

 

BUT what he says here is Very Very True. 

 

We need more such brutally honest statements from big names.

Bro almost posted similar reply. Great minds haha.

[express bowling]

6 minutes ago, Mosher said:

Bro almost posted similar reply. Great minds haha.

 

 

[singhvivek141]

Every word of Vaughan is true here, and I guess most of the ICF has been repeating the same thing.
India has enough talent to win World Cups repeatedly, our record in past decade during the U-19 (which is more or less away from the beaurocarcy of BCCI) has been a prime example.
But then, we are unable to develop those U-19 talents and hence loosing them in process.

When someone points on the fault in players, the fan boys and cheeleaders of that player start trolling left and right on the social media, & when their superstars flop in the big matches...same fans either discard it as one off incident or try to make someone else as Bali ka Bakra.

India need a Greg Chappel, and they desperately need it on priority. Else, Indian Public will keep on doing "Jumping Japak" during IPL season and bilaterals, and then get a "Thumping Thapak" loss in the world tournaments.

Edited November 11, 2022 by singhvivek141

[Sgattick10]

What an apt analysis bravo Vaughn. 

Now just look at the comments if this senile old man.. Yesterday he was saying some people may retire and today complete u turn got money from superstars I guess 

 

[express bowling]

41 minutes ago, Sgattick10 said:

What an apt analysis bravo Vaughn. 

Now just look at the comments if this senile old man.. Yesterday he was saying some people may retire and today complete u turn got money from superstars I guess 

 

 

 

This is a horrible and embarrassing interview by Gavaskar.

 

Looks distinctly uncomfortable with these hard questions and sucking up to the existing players with full commitment. A player of his stature looks really bad doing this. 

 

He is totally against taking any steps to improve things in T20Is. 

 

 

Edited November 11, 2022 by express bowling

[sage]

Gavaskar looks like he's been whipped into submission after last night