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Instead of pumping money here....  GOI should look to build some decent sporting infrastructure for swimming events for budding women athletes in India. 

Cricket is a niche sport & for women's cricket it is even more irrelevant...  With just 2-3 countries taking it seriously.  There is not a lot of point in it tbh..  At this moment they are wasting money just for the sake of it. 

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6 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

Instead of pumping money here....  GOI should look to build some decent sporting infrastructure for swimming events for budding women athletes in India. 

Cricket is a niche sport & for women's cricket it is even more irrelevant...  With just 2-3 countries taking it seriously.  There is not a lot of point in it tbh..  At this moment they are wasting money just for the sake of it. 

 

The GoI ain't pumping any money into cricket it's the private sector, which relies solely on demand. 

 

Just be happy that the BCCI is able to generate such huge corporate revenue. We dominated Hockey for half a century but the Hockey federation wasn't able to popularize the sport in India. 

 

Developed countries excel in sports due to their excellent grassroot infrastructure and their social security net which encourages their population to take up sports as a career. We have neither in India.

 

It's better for the IND govt to put money in wrestling, shooting, etc where we already have plenty of talented athletes and not swimming were we are no were on the map. 

 

 

Btw if Cricket is considered a 'niche' sport despite having a billion followers (doesn't matter where they come from) then so should the 99% of other sports.

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, LordPrabhzy said:

A good step but will stadiums fill up for the Womens IPL?

 

It wont be a good look for Viacom if matches are played in half empty stadiums

India vs Australia woman's T20 match was attended by 45000 people.  Much more than india vs England men's ODI match in Australia. I am sure they have done their groundwork before embarking on this.

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47 minutes ago, AuxiliA said:

Btw if Cricket is considered a 'niche' sport despite having a billion followers (doesn't matter where they come from) then so should the 99% of other sports.

Unfotunately for now only indians play it. In about 10 to 15 years by when indians would have immigrated to every country on the planet then we can expect more immigrant teams from other countries and compete amoung ourselves. Because of our arranged marriages and stuff like our peaceful community we make a lot of babies so no worries 'all your base are belong to us'..

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1 hour ago, AuxiliA said:

 

The GoI ain't pumping any money into cricket it's the private sector, which relies solely on demand. 

 

Just be happy that the BCCI is able to generate such huge corporate revenue. We dominated Hockey for half a century but the Hockey federation wasn't able to popularize the sport in India. 

 

Developed countries excel in sports due to their excellent grassroot infrastructure and their social security net which encourages their population to take up sports as a career. We have neither in India.

 

It's better for the IND govt to put money in wrestling, shooting, etc where we already have plenty of talented athletes and not swimming were we are no were on the map. 

 

 

Btw if Cricket is considered a 'niche' sport despite having a billion followers (doesn't matter where they come from) then so should the 99% of other sports.

 

 

 

Billion followers from one of the most joke of a sporting portion of the world meaning subcontinent...  We/Us have genuinely one sport to follow.  Bangladesh & Pakistan Sri lanka almost a 50 -60 crore population cannot conjure single medal in Olympics...  Even India does it barely.  There goes that 1 billion. 

Honestly First world folks or even Sub Saharan Africa folks have every right to laugh at this region. 

With BCCI making even more useless concrete stadiums worth millions one can only wonder if that money goes towards actual grassroot level & we have some semblance of sporting Infra we might not do badly.  Someone has to start somewhere. 

Regarding swimming Chinese have made it compulsory in most of its provinces in order to clear competitive exams.  They have built A grade level infrastructure at school & grassroot level to compete with the best.  It has taken time but results are slowly coming.  Someone has to start somewhere eventually. 

 

Women's cricket is quite irrelevant in the longer run.  What's its future if only 3 countries take it seriously?  Pakistan Bangladesh being Islamic countries will never let it prosper at ground level...  They just have women teams for the sake of it. 

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42 minutes ago, Vilander said:

Unfotunately for now only indians play it. In about 10 to 15 years by when indians would have immigrated to every country on the planet then we can expect more immigrant teams from other countries and compete amoung ourselves. Because of our arranged marriages and stuff like our peaceful community we make a lot of babies so no worries 'all your base are belong to us'..

 

Murali vijay is already planning on it.

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2 hours ago, Lone Wolf said:

Instead of pumping money here....  GOI should look to build some decent sporting infrastructure for swimming events for budding women athletes in India. 

Cricket is a niche sport & for women's cricket it is even more irrelevant...  With just 2-3 countries taking it seriously.  There is not a lot of point in it tbh..  At this moment they are wasting money just for the sake of it. 

We should promote darts, certainly better than shooting where they wasted do much money.

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1 hour ago, Vilander said:

Unfotunately for now only indians play it. In about 10 to 15 years by when indians would have immigrated to every country on the planet then we can expect more immigrant teams from other countries and compete amoung ourselves. Because of our arranged marriages and stuff like our peaceful community we make a lot of babies so no worries 'all your base are belong to us'..

Long term impact will be exactly opposite actually. Cricket is increasingly losing interest in many of the 8 or 10 "top" teams. 

 

 

Sri Lanka - economic struggles will weigh on people's choice to play cricket at regional levels than to make a paycheck. The pipeline is already drying

Bangladesh - The team has sucked for so long that, the new generation isn't as interested. You saw the near-empty stadiums when India visited. If you can't fill stadiums while India is visiting... bad news

West Indies - The pipeline of quality young players has been drying for over a decade now. They've had some power hitters but that's about it. 

Afghanistan - We will see

Ireland - We will see 

Zimbabwe - they're barely around 

 

Cricket is not the top sport in England, Australia, NZ and South Africa. However, their system is really strong so they should hang around and dominate. However, the stadiums aren't always selling out and tv viewership is down. 

 

That leaves India and Pakistan as Cricket-crazed nations. 

 

You can expect Cricket to become increasingly India centric instead of a global sport. 

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21 minutes ago, Strangering said:

Long term impact will be exactly opposite actually. Cricket is increasingly losing interest in many of the 8 or 10 "top" teams. 

 

 

Sri Lanka - economic struggles will weigh on people's choice to play cricket at regional levels than to make a paycheck. The pipeline is already drying

Bangladesh - The team has sucked for so long that, the new generation isn't as interested. You saw the near-empty stadiums when India visited. If you can't fill stadiums while India is visiting... bad news

West Indies - The pipeline of quality young players has been drying for over a decade now. They've had some power hitters but that's about it. 

Afghanistan - We will see

Ireland - We will see 

Zimbabwe - they're barely around 

 

Cricket is not the top sport in England, Australia, NZ and South Africa. However, their system is really strong so they should hang around and dominate. However, the stadiums aren't always selling out and tv viewership is down. 

 

That leaves India and Pakistan as Cricket-crazed nations. 

 

You can expect Cricket to become increasingly India centric instead of a global sport. 

Who cares.Football is Euro centric, FIFA will never want to shift it's powerbase away.Sports is all about money and politics ,did you see ufc 282 ,what a joke.

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15 minutes ago, MultiB48 said:

Who cares.Football is Euro centric, FIFA will never want to shift it's powerbase away.Sports is all about money and politics ,did you see ufc 282 ,what a joke.

I'm not saying that, its a bad thing. I'm just pointing out that, Cricket is inversing from whatever "global" presence it has right now. 

 

NBA, NFL, NHL and MLB are other examples of thriving sports while being 99% one country centric. 

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56 minutes ago, Strangering said:

Long term impact will be exactly opposite actually. Cricket is increasingly losing interest in many of the 8 or 10 "top" teams. 

 

 

Sri Lanka - economic struggles will weigh on people's choice to play cricket at regional levels than to make a paycheck. The pipeline is already drying

Bangladesh - The team has sucked for so long that, the new generation isn't as interested. You saw the near-empty stadiums when India visited. If you can't fill stadiums while India is visiting... bad news

West Indies - The pipeline of quality young players has been drying for over a decade now. They've had some power hitters but that's about it. 

Afghanistan - We will see

Ireland - We will see 

Zimbabwe - they're barely around 

 

Cricket is not the top sport in England, Australia, NZ and South Africa. However, their system is really strong so they should hang around and dominate. However, the stadiums aren't always selling out and tv viewership is down. 

 

That leaves India and Pakistan as Cricket-crazed nations. 

 

You can expect Cricket to become increasingly India centric instead of a global sport. 

Men's cricket will remain popular for a while at national level. 

Look at that SA20 league....  That has been the biggest opening a league has scene since 2008 IPL. 

Crazy promotions in SA...  Lot of effort was put up & the results are stadiums are jam packed...  Quality is top notch including broadcast with stunning venues.  SA domestic talent outside of quotas is for everyone to see. 

I say future is definately not too bleak. 

 

Women's cricket meh...  I don't think women give a damn about cricket that much. 

Men will follow for a while but product is simply not lucrative enough to sustain interest for long. 

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3 hours ago, Strangering said:

Long term impact will be exactly opposite actually. Cricket is increasingly losing interest in many of the 8 or 10 "top" teams.

 

I am saying exactly what you are saying but with some additional sensationalization around Indian origin population ( as i dont like the term south asian).  Basically i am saying indians (bongladeesh and pakistanis) will immigrate to every country and pretend having that countries accent etc and from day 1 of their arrival actively hate other indians who are coming behind them and claim they are 'different' etc and also play cricket, video games, sitting on their ass and stay fat etc, also play cricket for the said country and pretend to be more patriotic than some unfortunate local who was also roped in to represent the local team.

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7 hours ago, Strangering said:

I'm not saying that, its a bad thing. I'm just pointing out that, Cricket is inversing from whatever "global" presence it has right now. 

 

NBA, NFL, NHL and MLB are other examples of thriving sports while being 99% one country centric. 

Baseball and basketball are sports which are still popular in other countries but NFL biggest league in world is a one country sport. I feel we Indians tend to mix international cricket with IPL. Domestically a sport is popular which is now getting expanded to women for Indian consumers which is great. Just because world doesn't have song and dance in their movie so neither should we is a strange logic. 

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12 hours ago, Lone Wolf said:

Men's cricket will remain popular for a while at national level. 

Look at that SA20 league....  That has been the biggest opening a league has scene since 2008 IPL. 

Crazy promotions in SA...  Lot of effort was put up & the results are stadiums are jam packed...  Quality is top notch including broadcast with stunning venues.  SA domestic talent outside of quotas is for everyone to see. 

I say future is definately not too bleak. 

 

Women's cricket meh...  I don't think women give a damn about cricket that much. 

Men will follow for a while but product is simply not lucrative enough to sustain interest for long. 

Do you reckon IPL/other T20 leagues will take over international cricket?

There were 8 teams and now 10. I read not too long ago soon there'll be 12. Test cricket might only be limited to the Ashes, Border Gavaskar Tropy and the Ind Aus series in the future.

 

What Boult did... many other players will follow. The league cricket has to take over......

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18 hours ago, Gollum said:

IMO among women's sports only tennis is watchable. That too glamour, fashion, legacy etc. play a big role in attracting eyeballs. Women's hockey is technically beautiful to watch but everything in slow motion. 

 

PS: Women's badminton too is dope but maybe there is bias cos of Indians doing well. 

Yeah women's tennis is the only women's sport with the money

 

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15 hours ago, Lone Wolf said:

Billion followers from one of the most joke of a sporting portion of the world meaning subcontinent...  We/Us have genuinely one sport to follow.  Bangladesh & Pakistan Sri lanka almost a 50 -60 crore population cannot conjure single medal in Olympics...  Even India does it barely.  There goes that 1 billion. 

Honestly First world folks or even Sub Saharan Africa folks have every right to laugh at this region. 

With BCCI making even more useless concrete stadiums worth millions one can only wonder if that money goes towards actual grassroot level & we have some semblance of sporting Infra we might not do badly.  Someone has to start somewhere. 

Regarding swimming Chinese have made it compulsory in most of its provinces in order to clear competitive exams.  They have built A grade level infrastructure at school & grassroot level to compete with the best.  It has taken time but results are slowly coming.  Someone has to start somewhere eventually. 

 

Women's cricket is quite irrelevant in the longer run.  What's its future if only 3 countries take it seriously?  Pakistan Bangladesh being Islamic countries will never let it prosper at ground level...  They just have women teams for the sake of it. 

Chinese dominate in more docile sports. No offence. As much as I respect how well they do in Olympics, they never dominate in athletic sports or combat except weight lifting in lower weight classes. 

 

100 m

Olympic weight lifting

Wrestling

Boxing

Hockey

Football

Shot Put

Javelin throw

Swimming 100 m dash Chinese have actually started to do well. It's tough endurance wise but still a non combat /physical type event. 

 

 

India can excel in many of these sports But do parents encourage sports? All schools do is promote education. Study. After school you need to prepare for tuition. Then night classes. Indian kids just don't have access to facilities, infrastructure and the culture that promotes sport. So they are doing well considering the limited exposure to sports in general. 

 

Africa can't be compared. Those fkers actually train sports in school. They promote sports and parents encourage it. They are at the opposite end of the spectrum. Africans in general are less focused on education, hence the ardent interest in sports. Sports culture is pervasive amongst their societies. 

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