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How would Englands Bazball approach work against the trio of Ashwin, Jaddu and Bapu ?


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19 minutes ago, rangeelaraja said:

I think they would roll over within 100 in both innings. This level of bowling is unplayable in these conditions. 
 

I think even our greatest - Laxman, SRT, Veeru and Laxman would struggle big time against this bowling in these conditions. 

Forget spin. They won't last long vs our pace attack. People forget how good that is.

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Bazball has been mostly effective on flat tracks and they are lucky to have those conditions so far.

 

I remember BazbalL failing in 1st inning against NZ, India and SA in England when there were assistance in 1st Inning.
Bazball fired in 2nd inning though as conditions turned to flat pancake.

 

In Pakistan, roads were presented and Bazball cashed on those as well against Pakistan mediocre popgun bowling.

 

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1 hour ago, Serpico said:

160 AO instead of 91 AO 

 

Won't change the result but it'll be more entertaining 

england approached bazball by making flat wickets where their batsmen wont be troubled. Exactly they did same in odi wehre they built flat tracks and 400 was being scored.. india lost the last test because indias 3rd innings achilles heel came to haunt again. 272/3 end of day 3. 4th day pitch. Flat. Even 150 more runs would have won it for us as we would have batted them out of the game and england would have had to chase 425 odd on day 5. Plus we dropped bairstow at 140 odd for 3.. 

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1 hour ago, Lord said:

when do they tour us

 

looking forward to it.

Look no more, they tried similar approach without Jadeja playing in 2021 - they were b*** *ed after the first test :laugh:

 

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Only once they crossed 200 post that Chennai flat track in the first innings!

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41 minutes ago, R!TTER said:

Look no more, they tried similar approach without Jadeja playing in 2021 - they were b*** *ed after the first test :laugh:

 

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Only once they crossed 200 post that Chennai flat track in the first innings!

That was pre Bazball era

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1 hour ago, R!TTER said:

Look no more, they tried similar approach without Jadeja playing in 2021 - they were b*** *ed after the first test :laugh:

 

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Only once they crossed 200 post that Chennai flat track in the first innings!

 

nah Baz and Stokes took over later

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Atm Root is the only Pommie bat who can score big in India. Brook is unproven.

 

Bairstow is one of the worst players of spin I have ever seen. Dunno if he has ever scored in double digits in India.

 

Stokes is Ashwin's client, Ashwin will message him now about how he will own him next time, time, date, type of dismissal, over number and then manifest it. As comical as Warne-Cullinan this rivalry.

 

Crawley, Pope, Jacks etc. are lukkhas who even 2nd string Ranji teams will violate.

 

Buttler is out of the picture, Foakes is an inferior version of Saha.

 

Don't tell me that hack Livingstone will play a test in India, that will be an insult to the format, Bazball or not

 

Moeen is retired from test cricket, he is actually one guy who can score against our spinners albeit inconsistently. But both parties have moved on, he is pretty clear that he will never come back.

 

Baz is a smart chap, he will either tactfully move away from the job before an overseas India tour or dupe everyone (ably supported by English media) with another fancy sounding approach. 

 

End result sabko pata hai, even if we lose some of our stalwart bowlers (Ash, Shami, Umesh etc.) the new ones will be enough to crush Eng. Anderson will be retired by then, no bowling to speak of, Root past his peak years, unless Brook does something miraculous (Root too will have to have a second peak to support him) there will be zero resistance to the Indian juggernaut.

 

They can beat drums about their Bazball approach and **** but the one time Eng did beat us here, they had peak versions of Cook, KP, Trott, Bell, Prior in their top 7. And Indian bowling has only improved since then.

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People forget easily that Eng did beat us in Chennai 2021 & were quite close in that Ahmedabad test. 

Aussies somehow don't have a great match up against us. 

I expect England & Baz ball to be competitive against India provided we keep playing Hahul Gujara Kolli & Bharat/SKY...  This is a handicapped XI. 

 

Hahul

Gujara

Kohli 

bharat (wk) 

SKY

 

Vs 

Root

Brooks

Pope 

Bairstow

Stokes

 

Throw in Wood or Archer to take care of our strength that is our Tail & lower order. 

They may fluke a test win somehow again

 

India is inciting trouble by playing so much deadwood & is bound to crash at some point.  I am afraid we are looking at another WTC F loss with so much TTFs in the team. 

 

Please Kick Gujara & Hahul out fgs...  Chokli will continue to play despite failures but come one how long we will keep carrying these failures. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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5 hours ago, R!TTER said:

Look at the approach in those innings, Root was sweeping almost everything & so was Bairstow! Stokes has never worked in India, who else? You think that Bassball sh!t will work in India :cantstop:

 

nah look at the RR. Its below 3 mostly. Nowadays they go above 4 or even 5 mostly.

 

Its a boom or bust approach aiming to hit bowlers off their lengths. Risky but feel that's only approach that has semblance of chance of working

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