rangeelaraja Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 I think they would roll over within 100 in both innings. This level of bowling is unplayable in these conditions. I think even our greatest - Laxman, SRT, Veeru and Laxman would struggle big time against this bowling in these conditions. Under_Score and raki05 1 1 Link to comment
Lord Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 when do they tour us looking forward to it. sage, rangeelaraja and raki05 3 Link to comment
Serpico Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 160 AO instead of 91 AO Won't change the result but it'll be more entertaining Link to comment
speedracer Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 19 minutes ago, rangeelaraja said: I think they would roll over within 100 in both innings. This level of bowling is unplayable in these conditions. I think even our greatest - Laxman, SRT, Veeru and Laxman would struggle big time against this bowling in these conditions. Forget spin. They won't last long vs our pace attack. People forget how good that is. raki05 1 Link to comment
deepdynamo Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 Bazball has been mostly effective on flat tracks and they are lucky to have those conditions so far. I remember BazbalL failing in 1st inning against NZ, India and SA in England when there were assistance in 1st Inning. Bazball fired in 2nd inning though as conditions turned to flat pancake. In Pakistan, roads were presented and Bazball cashed on those as well against Pakistan mediocre popgun bowling. raki05 1 Link to comment
neel roy Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 1 hour ago, Serpico said: 160 AO instead of 91 AO Won't change the result but it'll be more entertaining england approached bazball by making flat wickets where their batsmen wont be troubled. Exactly they did same in odi wehre they built flat tracks and 400 was being scored.. india lost the last test because indias 3rd innings achilles heel came to haunt again. 272/3 end of day 3. 4th day pitch. Flat. Even 150 more runs would have won it for us as we would have batted them out of the game and england would have had to chase 425 odd on day 5. Plus we dropped bairstow at 140 odd for 3.. nevada, raki05 and G_B_ 1 1 1 Link to comment
R!TTER Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 1 hour ago, Lord said: when do they tour us looking forward to it. Look no more, they tried similar approach without Jadeja playing in 2021 - they were b*** *ed after the first test View innings by innings list [change view] Primary team England Host country India Start of match date greater than or equal to 1 Feb 2020 Totals in terms of batting team Ordered by start date (ascending) Page 1 of 1 Showing 1 - 8 of 8 First Previous Next Last Return to query menuCleared query menu Innings by innings list Team Score Overs RPO Lead Inns Result Opposition Ground Start Datehttp://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/blackArrowUp.gif England 578 190.1 3.03 578 1 won v India Chennai 5 Feb 2021 England 178 46.3 3.82 419 3 won v India Chennai 5 Feb 2021 England 134 59.5 2.23 -195 2 lost v India Chennai 13 Feb 2021 England 164 54.2 3.01 -317 4 lost v India Chennai 13 Feb 2021 England 112 48.4 2.30 112 1 lost v India Ahmedabad 24 Feb 2021 England 81 30.4 2.64 48 3 lost v India Ahmedabad 24 Feb 2021 England 205 75.5 2.70 205 1 lost v India Ahmedabad 4 Mar 2021 England 135 54.5 2.46 -25 3 lost v India Ahmedabad 4 Mar 2021 Only once they crossed 200 post that Chennai flat track in the first innings! Link to comment
sage Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 41 minutes ago, R!TTER said: Look no more, they tried similar approach without Jadeja playing in 2021 - they were b*** *ed after the first test View innings by innings list [change view] Primary team England Host country India Start of match date greater than or equal to 1 Feb 2020 Totals in terms of batting team Ordered by start date (ascending) Page 1 of 1 Showing 1 - 8 of 8 First Previous Next Last Return to query menuCleared query menu Innings by innings list Team Score Overs RPO Lead Inns Result Opposition Ground Start Datehttp://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/blackArrowUp.gif England 578 190.1 3.03 578 1 won v India Chennai 5 Feb 2021 England 178 46.3 3.82 419 3 won v India Chennai 5 Feb 2021 England 134 59.5 2.23 -195 2 lost v India Chennai 13 Feb 2021 England 164 54.2 3.01 -317 4 lost v India Chennai 13 Feb 2021 England 112 48.4 2.30 112 1 lost v India Ahmedabad 24 Feb 2021 England 81 30.4 2.64 48 3 lost v India Ahmedabad 24 Feb 2021 England 205 75.5 2.70 205 1 lost v India Ahmedabad 4 Mar 2021 England 135 54.5 2.46 -25 3 lost v India Ahmedabad 4 Mar 2021 Only once they crossed 200 post that Chennai flat track in the first innings! That was pre Bazball era rangeelaraja and raki05 2 Link to comment
Number Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 (edited) On these pitches even against 10th Indian spinner in pecking order, no kind of ball will work. Bazball or BoycottBall Edited February 11, 2023 by Number raki05 1 Link to comment
Lord Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 1 hour ago, R!TTER said: Look no more, they tried similar approach without Jadeja playing in 2021 - they were b*** *ed after the first test View innings by innings list [change view] Primary team England Host country India Start of match date greater than or equal to 1 Feb 2020 Totals in terms of batting team Ordered by start date (ascending) Page 1 of 1 Showing 1 - 8 of 8 First Previous Next Last Return to query menuCleared query menu Innings by innings list Team Score Overs RPO Lead Inns Result Opposition Ground Start Datehttp://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/blackArrowUp.gif England 578 190.1 3.03 578 1 won v India Chennai 5 Feb 2021 England 178 46.3 3.82 419 3 won v India Chennai 5 Feb 2021 England 134 59.5 2.23 -195 2 lost v India Chennai 13 Feb 2021 England 164 54.2 3.01 -317 4 lost v India Chennai 13 Feb 2021 England 112 48.4 2.30 112 1 lost v India Ahmedabad 24 Feb 2021 England 81 30.4 2.64 48 3 lost v India Ahmedabad 24 Feb 2021 England 205 75.5 2.70 205 1 lost v India Ahmedabad 4 Mar 2021 England 135 54.5 2.46 -25 3 lost v India Ahmedabad 4 Mar 2021 Only once they crossed 200 post that Chennai flat track in the first innings! nah Baz and Stokes took over later Link to comment
raki05 Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 On topic they ll crap in their pants wit Baz ball. BC not sure why British media and commrntrators come up with these crinzy names like baz ball by unleashing their flat track bullies in their flattest of conditions ( 4th -5th day) . Let them visit this time baz ball ka bater ball nahi bana to bolna. rangeelaraja 1 Link to comment
R!TTER Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 30 minutes ago, Lord said: nah Baz and Stokes took over later Look at the approach in those innings, Root was sweeping almost everything & so was Bairstow! Stokes has never worked in India, who else? You think that Bassball sh!t will work in India Lord and raki05 1 1 Link to comment
deepdynamo Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 Bazball can work partially only in the first inning when the pitch is reasonably flat. But no chance in 2nd inning for sure. Link to comment
Gollum Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 Atm Root is the only Pommie bat who can score big in India. Brook is unproven. Bairstow is one of the worst players of spin I have ever seen. Dunno if he has ever scored in double digits in India. Stokes is Ashwin's client, Ashwin will message him now about how he will own him next time, time, date, type of dismissal, over number and then manifest it. As comical as Warne-Cullinan this rivalry. Crawley, Pope, Jacks etc. are lukkhas who even 2nd string Ranji teams will violate. Buttler is out of the picture, Foakes is an inferior version of Saha. Don't tell me that hack Livingstone will play a test in India, that will be an insult to the format, Bazball or not Moeen is retired from test cricket, he is actually one guy who can score against our spinners albeit inconsistently. But both parties have moved on, he is pretty clear that he will never come back. Baz is a smart chap, he will either tactfully move away from the job before an overseas India tour or dupe everyone (ably supported by English media) with another fancy sounding approach. End result sabko pata hai, even if we lose some of our stalwart bowlers (Ash, Shami, Umesh etc.) the new ones will be enough to crush Eng. Anderson will be retired by then, no bowling to speak of, Root past his peak years, unless Brook does something miraculous (Root too will have to have a second peak to support him) there will be zero resistance to the Indian juggernaut. They can beat drums about their Bazball approach and **** but the one time Eng did beat us here, they had peak versions of Cook, KP, Trott, Bell, Prior in their top 7. And Indian bowling has only improved since then. rangeelaraja, putrevus and raki05 3 Link to comment
putrevus Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 Johnny played two of the best test innings I saw any batsman play against high quality fast bowling in England.But in India playing against spin is a dfferent ball game. If England wins against India playing bazball then more power to them. Link to comment
sage Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 I think it will be a fun series. Bazball England will be the best competition in India out of any test playing team Link to comment
putrevus Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 I still feel Indian fast bowlers were exposed in that onslaught, no way England should have chased that total that easy. Link to comment
Gollum Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 Forget India or Aus, when is Eng touring NZ next? If Kiwis are brave enough and resort to similar greentops they regularly give Asian sides, we'll see how Poms cope. raki05 1 Link to comment
Lone Wolf Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 People forget easily that Eng did beat us in Chennai 2021 & were quite close in that Ahmedabad test. Aussies somehow don't have a great match up against us. I expect England & Baz ball to be competitive against India provided we keep playing Hahul Gujara Kolli & Bharat/SKY... This is a handicapped XI. Hahul Gujara Kohli bharat (wk) SKY Vs Root Brooks Pope Bairstow Stokes Throw in Wood or Archer to take care of our strength that is our Tail & lower order. They may fluke a test win somehow again India is inciting trouble by playing so much deadwood & is bound to crash at some point. I am afraid we are looking at another WTC F loss with so much TTFs in the team. Please Kick Gujara & Hahul out fgs... Chokli will continue to play despite failures but come one how long we will keep carrying these failures. Lord 1 Link to comment
Lord Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 5 hours ago, R!TTER said: Look at the approach in those innings, Root was sweeping almost everything & so was Bairstow! Stokes has never worked in India, who else? You think that Bassball sh!t will work in India nah look at the RR. Its below 3 mostly. Nowadays they go above 4 or even 5 mostly. Its a boom or bust approach aiming to hit bowlers off their lengths. Risky but feel that's only approach that has semblance of chance of working Link to comment
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