gattaca Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Singh bling said: Infighting only happen when there are leaders BJP since Modi have stopped grooming leaders barring Adityanath. They like earlier congress just want people to vote on face of Modi. This strategy works for short time but if their is popular state leader on other side then defeat is imminent in state elections Don’t agree with you on this. Hemantha biswa is the reason BJP won in NE. Davendra fadnavis is another in maha, Yogi in UP, shivraj Chauhan in MP etc. I can think of these guys. They lack leaders in Guj , karnataka. Karnataka they don’t as they asked yeddy to not stand in elections as they have imposed age limits. Congress on the other hand is weak at central leadership and has problems in rajasthan and Karnataka where leaders are fighting. They also had problem in punjab with capt and sidhu fighting. Rahul Gandhi is a poor leader who can’t hand the leaders of these states. Edited May 16, 2023 by gattaca Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singh bling Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 1 hour ago, gattaca said: Don’t agree with you on this. Hemantha biswa is the reason BJP won in NE. Davendra fadnavis is another in maha, Yogi in UP, shivraj Chauhan in MP etc. I can think of these guys. They lack leaders in Guj , karnataka. Karnataka they don’t as they asked yeddy to not stand in elections as they have imposed age limits. Congress on the other hand is weak at central leadership and has problems in rajasthan and Karnataka where leaders are fighting. They also had problem in punjab with capt and sidhu fighting. Rahul Gandhi is a poor leader who can’t hand the leaders of these states. Shivraj is pre Modi Leader. Hemanta may be , already mentioned Yogi. The way Fadnavis was demoted clearly show how he is treated. Even now Shinde group is openly saying that Shinde will be CM candidate in next election. Look at Rajasthan, no leader barring maharani whose record is not so great , Haryana Hardly any , Bihar , Sushil Modi was their popular face but dropped second in favour of two unknown deputy CMs . Even in Gujarat they changed CMs several time, not grooming any young leader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollum Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 Pathetic governance/administration led to this, Bengaluru is a proper shithole now. Still see BJPians communalizing everything, their IT cell is a hub of fake news, rumour mongering, outright falsehoods, all to the detriment of the nation. May the losses keep piling up....either mend your ways or sink. Lone Wolf and Under_Score 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 5 hours ago, Gollum said: Pathetic governance/administration led to this, Bengaluru is a proper shithole now. Still see BJPians communalizing everything, their IT cell is a hub of fake news, rumour mongering, outright falsehoods, all to the detriment of the nation. May the losses keep piling up....either mend your ways or sink. Bengaluru 15 BJP to 13 INC. it’s still not losing it . Bengaluru’s problem is influx of population for jobs and infrastructure not built for it. BJP didn’t lose it because of bad governance, but because of miscommunication, over-confidence and losing out on electoral caste math. Just like success, even failures have many fathers. Remember how ABVP lost in 2004, Kar 2023 has the same model. randomGuy and raki05 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gattaca Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 1 hour ago, coffee_rules said: Bengaluru 15 BJP to 13 INC. it’s still not losing it . Bengaluru’s problem is influx of population for jobs and infrastructure not built for it. BJP didn’t lose it because of bad governance, but because of miscommunication, over-confidence and losing out on electoral caste math. Just like success, even failures have many fathers. Remember how ABVP lost in 2004, Kar 2023 has the same model. Didn’t BJP loose lingayat vote share ? Thought this was the reason. Them sidelining yeddy and the new CM couldn’t get the vote share. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
someone Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 So be it win or loss, the libtards can only abuse, and critical of BJP. Can't they cherish their own selves, and develop their own pro-reasons? Just blatant negativity and fear-mongering constantly. For BJP, there is no real lessons, it's lacklustre state performance be blamed, yet still would have won the elections, if not for the communal politics of the Congress. The complete Muslim consolidation shows how democracy, tolerance is in danger in India. raki05 and coffee_rules 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diga Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 1 hour ago, gattaca said: Didn’t BJP loose lingayat vote share ? Thought this was the reason. Them sidelining yeddy and the new CM couldn’t get the vote share. In Bengaluru, Lingayat vote is not as significant. Their number is significant in central & north karnataka. Unfortunately the person (BJPs state in charge BL Santosh) sent to address this leadership void after yediyuruppa's retirement ended up sidelining him & other seniors like Shettar. Some of them took it upon themselves to sabotage other BJP candidates . coffee_rules 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Wolf Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 (edited) Looks like US is ready to get its hands dirty... 2024 is gonna be a dogfight. Timing is immaculate.... Good ol Uncle Sam Edited May 17, 2023 by Lone Wolf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raki05 Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 11 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said: Looks like US is ready to get its hands dirty... 2024 is gonna be a dogfight. Timing is immaculate.... Good ol Uncle Sam And thats utter shame , Typically bith center and opposition should condemned such claims by foreign media. But lately opposition has stoop to such low that they utilize these foreign fake print media reports to create polarization. All these just to defeat bjp but they don’t consider long term impact of it. coffee_rules 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Wolf Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 (edited) 47 minutes ago, raki05 said: And thats utter shame , Typically bith center and opposition should condemned such claims by foreign media. But lately opposition has stoop to such low that they utilize these foreign fake print media reports to create polarization. All these just to defeat bjp but they don’t consider long term impact of it. This seems revenge of Abki baar Trump Sarkar thing.... Remember all that anti Congress thingy & rise of Anna Hazard in early 2010's.. Amreeki Propaganda then Modi getting closer to Americans.... The honeymoon period.. It's all over now. Modi has distanced itself from US & Ukraine sh*t hasn't gone down well with US. Modi hasn't f**d with them as now he knows what they are really up to. End goal of US has always been to make India a puppet state. They will do whatever they can to accomplish this. Khujliwal turned out to be a failed experiment, Modi flew closer to the sun & came back... Now RaGa is their next target. Edited May 17, 2023 by Lone Wolf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khadekhademaaro Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 Ask Imran to converts to his roots and name himself SiddaShivKumar Modi, and make him CM of bengaloru Khota, Stan AF and Lone Wolf 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khadekhademaaro Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 Siddaramiah it will be coffee_rules 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raki05 Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 11 hours ago, Lone Wolf said: This seems revenge of Abki baar Trump Sarkar thing.... Remember all that anti Congress thingy & rise of Anna Hazard in early 2010's.. Amreeki Propaganda then Modi getting closer to Americans.... The honeymoon period.. It's all over now. Modi has distanced itself from US & Ukraine sh*t hasn't gone down well with US. Modi hasn't f**d with them as now he knows what they are really up to. End goal of US has always been to make India a puppet state. They will do whatever they can to accomplish this. Khujliwal turned out to be a failed experiment, Modi flew closer to the sun & came back... Now RaGa is their next target. I am not even talking about what other foreign nations are doing to destabilise india. As long as all political party condemned any statement issued by foreign outlets , but right now the whole agenda is to get rd of Modi and bjp and for that opposition are utilizing this foreign funded agenda to destabilise the nation whether its Shahin Bagh, Farmer protest or anything. Alll i am trying to say whatever conflict you have deal internally publicize internally rather than to create chaos based on foreign funded toolkit. Tell me how it is different than when invaders and looters attack our country in connivance with our own people who invited them to attack their own countrymen. Suhaan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Wolf Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 2 hours ago, raki05 said: I am not even talking about what other foreign nations are doing to destabilise india. As long as all political party condemned any statement issued by foreign outlets , but right now the whole agenda is to get rd of Modi and bjp and for that opposition are utilizing this foreign funded agenda to destabilise the nation whether its Shahin Bagh, Farmer protest or anything. Alll i am trying to say whatever conflict you have deal internally publicize internally rather than to create chaos based on foreign funded toolkit. Tell me how it is different than when invaders and looters attack our country in connivance with our own people who invited them to attack their own countrymen. As Mao once said bide your time to Chinese people we are in similar stage... They closed their country for outsiders till 1980's.. We can't do that in this day & age being a democracy. As long as we don't become at least a 10 trillion dollar economy this bullying will go on... We are boxed in with two hostile neighbors in Paxtan & China. US is in a pole position to blackmail us any time it wants. So pressure tactics will continue for at least next two decades. raki05 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gattaca Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, Lone Wolf said: As Mao once said bide your time to Chinese people we are in similar stage... They closed their country for outsiders till 1980's.. We can't do that in this day & age being a democracy. As long as we don't become at least a 10 trillion dollar economy this bullying will go on... We are boxed in with two hostile neighbors in Paxtan & China. US is in a pole position to blackmail us any time it wants. So pressure tactics will continue for at least next two decades. Republicans will win this time. I don’t see dems winning. Repubs are better for india U.S. relations. Edited May 18, 2023 by gattaca Suhaan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
someone Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 10 hours ago, raki05 said: I am not even talking about what other foreign nations are doing to destabilise india. As long as all political party condemned any statement issued by foreign outlets , but right now the whole agenda is to get rd of Modi and bjp and for that opposition are utilizing this foreign funded agenda to destabilise the nation whether its Shahin Bagh, Farmer protest or anything. Alll i am trying to say whatever conflict you have deal internally publicize internally rather than to create chaos based on foreign funded toolkit. Tell me how it is different than when invaders and looters attack our country in connivance with our own people who invited them to attack their own countrymen. It's a deep rooted problem, and lack of confidence, inferiority complex over centuries. Thus, many look for western or Muslim validation. They are most powerful groups, which makes many Indians in awe and be under their supremacy. Thus, one doesn't want to be their own bosses. There is complete lack of leadership and self-belief. The farm bills were testament towards that where poor farmers were misled about their own entrepreneurship, and skill-set. Similarly, Modi being PM, aspires for any common Indian can become PM. He represented a paradigm shift and an India without a glass ceiling. An India where one doesn't need to be of a certain money or caste to be the boss. That's the real democracy and 2024 is the same fight. raki05, bharathh, coffee_rules and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboysfan Posted May 18, 2023 Author Share Posted May 18, 2023 9 hours ago, gattaca said: Republicans will win this time. I don’t see dems winning. Repubs are better for india U.S. relations. you are kidding right?i am going to bookmark this post and come back to it for the next election. Stan AF and Under_Score 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khota Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 On 5/17/2023 at 11:19 PM, raki05 said: I am not even talking about what other foreign nations are doing to destabilise india. As long as all political party condemned any statement issued by foreign outlets , but right now the whole agenda is to get rd of Modi and bjp and for that opposition are utilizing this foreign funded agenda to destabilise the nation whether its Shahin Bagh, Farmer protest or anything. Alll i am trying to say whatever conflict you have deal internally publicize internally rather than to create chaos based on foreign funded toolkit. Tell me how it is different than when invaders and looters attack our country in connivance with our own people who invited them to attack their own countrymen. Only people who are trying to destabilize India are the bJP. 2000 note recall. They have no credibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raki05 Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 23 minutes ago, Khota said: Only people who are trying to destabilize India are the bJP. 2000 note recall. They have no credibility. Both implementation of 2000 and banning of it has been done to stop accumulation of black money…..as most of the black money has been accumulated in form of 2000 currency. Just like earlier people were accumulating it in old 500 and 1000 notes. khadekhademaaro 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 57 minutes ago, Khota said: Only people who are trying to destabilize India are the bJP. 2000 note recall. They have no credibility. Done to stop corruption of elections in 2024. Common man had no use of 2000 notes, except those who were caught hoarding had only 2000 bundles, when had stopped circulation at least in last 4 years khadekhademaaro 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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