Vijy Posted August 6, 2023 Posted August 6, 2023 9 hours ago, jf1gp_1 said: Brian Lara avg under 35 in test against India doesnt translate to our bowling lineup being best in that era prabhakar got exposed in many diff cases too. not sure why you brought up lara here. express bowling 1
jf1gp_1 Posted August 6, 2023 Posted August 6, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, express bowling said: Prabhakar averaged 37 in tests snd 29 in ODIs as a bowler. So, he wasn't that good a bowler overall either. Not a case of just that game. Prabhakar was one of the better ones we had at that point in time. Plus he could open with bat when required which was a bonus once kapil retired ànd we needed a long batting line up. We were such a poor team 90s. No openers, only a young Sachin with bat and kumble with ball were the only players, no fats bowlers, captain fixed matches then cheats like jadeja. Edited August 6, 2023 by jf1gp_1
Vijy Posted August 6, 2023 Posted August 6, 2023 11 hours ago, Suhaan said: You forgot Sakaria, without him everything is incomplete, he's the missing piece him and undercutter, the missing pieces
express bowling Posted August 6, 2023 Posted August 6, 2023 2 hours ago, jf1gp_1 said: Prabhakar was one of the better ones we had at that point in time. Plus he could open with bat when required which was a bonus once kapil retired ànd we needed a long batting line up. We were such a poor team 90s. No openers, only a young Sachin with bat and kumble with ball were the only players, no fats bowlers, captain fixed matches then cheats like jadeja. Batting is a different issue. Prabhakar opened the bowling for us and he was a typical slow and movement dependant new ball bowler that has been our bane for decades. Suhaan, AKane and Mosher 3
zen Posted August 6, 2023 Posted August 6, 2023 (edited) Not sure if the squad has been announced or when it is expected to be announced but below is how it could shape up: Batsmen including WK Rohit Gill Kohli 3-4 from SKY Jaiswal S Iyer KL (wk) Kishan (wk) Samson (wk) ARs Sir Don Jadeja Axar Thakur Pacers Bumrah Siraj X Spinners Chahal Kuldeep Edited August 6, 2023 by zen
Austin 3:!6 Posted August 6, 2023 Posted August 6, 2023 31 minutes ago, zen said: Not sure if the squad has been announced or when it is expected to be announced but below is how it could shape up: Batsmen including WK Rohit Gill Kohli 3-4 from SKY Jaiswal S Iyer KL (wk) Kishan (wk) Samson (wk) ARs Sir Don Jadeja Axar Thakur Pacers Bumrah Siraj X Spinners Chahal Kuldeep Shreyas Iyer and KL Rahul won't be fit by Asia Cup Also, Jaiswal is not in the reconning in ODIs for now. I think Tilak Varma will be a surprise entry replacing Samson.
zen Posted August 6, 2023 Posted August 6, 2023 4 minutes ago, Austin 3:!6 said: Shreyas Iyer and KL Rahul won't be fit by Asia Cup Also, Jaiswal is not in the reconning in ODIs for now. I think Tilak Varma will be a surprise entry replacing Samson. If the squad is likely to have 2 WKs, and if KL remains unavailable, both Samson & Kishan could get the nod. Austin 3:!6 1
AKane Posted August 6, 2023 Posted August 6, 2023 (edited) Failure in Asia cup will jeopardize the chances for the much bigger and longer WC. If I was either KL or Iyer, I would be reluctant to play. Most likely India will not do well in Asia cup and KL and Iyer will be shoe ins for the WC in that case. However if Asia cup is a pre-requisite to prove fitness then they have no choice but to play. Edited August 6, 2023 by AKane express bowling 1
Majestic Posted August 7, 2023 Posted August 7, 2023 6 hours ago, zen said: If the squad is likely to have 2 WKs, and if KL remains unavailable, both Samson & Kishan could get the nod. It will. Rohit, Gill, Kishan Kohli, Samson, SKY, Hardik Jadeja, Axar, Thakur Shami, Siraj, Bumrah Kuldeep, Chahal 15 finalized.
Lone Wolf Posted August 7, 2023 Posted August 7, 2023 9 hours ago, Austin 3:!6 said: Shreyas Iyer and KL Rahul won't be fit by Asia Cup Also, Jaiswal is not in the reconning in ODIs for now. I think Tilak Varma will be a surprise entry replacing Samson. highly unlikely but we are in desperate need of a solid left handed MO player. Tilak could solve the problem... But he is also like Jaiswal part of Asian Games squad so 99% won't get picked for Asia Cup or WC. raki05 and Austin 3:!6 1 1
Austin 3:!6 Posted August 7, 2023 Posted August 7, 2023 7 hours ago, Lone Wolf said: highly unlikely but we are in desperate need of a solid left handed MO player. Tilak could solve the problem... But he is also like Jaiswal part of Asian Games squad so 99% won't get picked for Asia Cup or WC. That Asia games squad is not written in stone though...its at BCCIs discretion and they can swap players anytime. I think one of Jaiswal or Tilak would get drafted into main team. raki05, putrevus, express bowling and 1 other 1 3
Austin 3:!6 Posted August 7, 2023 Posted August 7, 2023 (edited) I would have this 15 member squad for Asia Cup - Openers: Rohit Sharma (c) Shubhman Gill Yashasvi Jaiswal Middle Order: Virat Kohli Tilak Varma Ishan Kishan (wk) KL Rahul (wk) SuryaKumar Yadav All Rounders: Hardik Pandya Ravi Jadeja Shardul Thakur Spinners: Kuldeep Yadav Yuzi Chahal Seamers: Jasprit Bumrah Mohammad Siraj Edited August 7, 2023 by Austin 3:!6
Nikhil_cric Posted August 7, 2023 Posted August 7, 2023 Top 3 Rohit Kohli Shubman Jaiswal 4,5,6 Varma Iyer(if fit) Kishan Parag Allrounders Hardik Axar Bowlers Kuldeep Bumrah Siraj Shami Prasidh (if fit) This is what I'm hoping for. Ideally I want Kohli out but that's not going to happen. So, they should atleast make him and Sharma open. Neither of them can accelerate against spin but can still play pace.
putrevus Posted August 7, 2023 Posted August 7, 2023 (edited) Verma who has played total of two matches is now savior. How is a must in 50 over cricket? Edited August 7, 2023 by putrevus
Norman Posted August 7, 2023 Posted August 7, 2023 It was pathetic not to try out Jaiswal in the WI odis. Morons gave Axar Patel the no.4 spot but kept YJ on the bench for some brain dead reason only known to them. Should have tried out Tilak as well in the middle order... Absolute shitt heads Jaiswal Rohit Kohli Iyer/Gill Tilak Kishan/KL Pandya Look how versatile that batting line-up looks rather than the likely top 6 of all right handers and the tail starting at 7 with tuk tuk jaddu who has no business playing ODIs for us. Austin 3:!6 and Nikhil_cric 1 1
express bowling Posted August 7, 2023 Posted August 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Nikhil_cric said: Top 3 Rohit Kohli Shubman Jaiswal 4,5,6 Varma Iyer(if fit) Kishan Parag Allrounders Hardik Axar Bowlers Kuldeep Bumrah Siraj Shami Prasidh (if fit) This is what I'm hoping for. Ideally I want Kohli out but that's not going to happen. So, they should atleast make him and Sharma open. Neither of them can accelerate against spin but can still play pace. What will be your playing 11 ? Mosher 1
Nikhil_cric Posted August 7, 2023 Posted August 7, 2023 6 hours ago, express bowling said: What will be your playing 11 ? They should try out this top 6 at least in a couple of games in the Asia Cup. SKY has failed in ODIS. And I don't think there's a need for both geriatrics. Rohit is more explosive, especially against the short ball so he starts. Bowling should always have 3 frontline quicks. 7 & 8 should be any combination of Hardik/Kuldeep/Axar depending on pitch and conditions. Rohit Jaiswal Shubman Tilak Parag Kishan
Majestic Posted August 8, 2023 Posted August 8, 2023 On 8/6/2023 at 9:24 PM, jf1gp_1 said: Prabhakar was one of the better ones we had at that point in time. Plus he could open with bat when required which was a bonus once kapil retired ànd we needed a long batting line up. We were such a poor team 90s. No openers, only a young Sachin with bat and kumble with ball were the only players, no fats bowlers, captain fixed matches then cheats like jadeja. We were awful between 1986-1995. Kapil Dev who was operating at ATG level till '85 became a Jason Holder level all rounder post that. Gavaskar was on last leg and Amarnath purple patch was over. All we had was 2-3 above average players like Vengsarkar, Azharuddin and Sidhu. tweaker 1
Vijy Posted August 8, 2023 Posted August 8, 2023 9 hours ago, Norman said: It was pathetic not to try out Jaiswal in the WI odis. Morons gave Axar Patel the no.4 spot but kept YJ on the bench for some brain dead reason only known to them. Should have tried out Tilak as well in the middle order... Absolute shitt heads Jaiswal Rohit Kohli Iyer/Gill Tilak Kishan/KL Pandya Look how versatile that batting line-up looks rather than the likely top 6 of all right handers and the tail starting at 7 with tuk tuk jaddu who has no business playing ODIs for us. you discovered the reason for yourself: they are brain dead
Nikhil_cric Posted August 8, 2023 Posted August 8, 2023 4 hours ago, Majestic said: We were awful between 1986-1995. Kapil Dev who was operating at ATG level till '85 became a Jason Holder level all rounder post that. Gavaskar was on last leg and Amarnath purple patch was over. All we had was 2-3 above average players like Vengsarkar, Azharuddin and Sidhu. 1993 - 1996 World Cup era side was pretty good. Definitely on an upward curve. But the relentless schedule, nepotism, and rampant fixing threw us several years behind.
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